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Post by aristaeus on Jul 31, 2024 12:30:41 GMT
Merseyside’s police and crime commissioner, Emily Spurrell, has said there is a “strong feeling” that members of the English Defence League have used the Southport stabbing to “whip up hatred”. Speaking on ITV’s Good Morning Britain programme, She said: "There is a strong feeling that there are individuals like the EDL, who have been using this incredibly tragic event to whip up hatred, incite violence, and that’s the result of what we saw last night. There is a strong sense that this is people who have come from out-of-area simply to create violence and abuse against officers and towards a community who are not in any way accepting of this behaviour." This is absolute bullshit . When white people kick it’s the EDL . When Muslims kick off they were probably goaded by the EDL. Oh please, you have to be naive to think the EDL haven't jumped on this. Police are saying they came in from outside the area to cause trouble.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 31, 2024 12:34:29 GMT
Maybe that's why they left Rwanda to come here. They preferred to live in a muslim country. Or maybe they came here to escape the genocide, like my wife's friend did. And the UK isn't a Muslim country. I don't know why you want to bring Muslims into this. Is that the genocide they suffered, or the genocide they CAUSED Here's the thing About twenty years back I was a captive audience for a radio 4 thought for the day. I don't know who it was but I rather hope it was Rabbi Lionel Blue because it was typical of the stuff he would often come up with He started by relating the story of a picture too gory for them UK press, but on the front page of a European paper, of a black man bringing a machete down on the head of a girl of about seven and throwing her still just about twitching body into the river below and wayching her bloid mingle with the mud red waters What manner of man does that ? He asked And then he explained Sixty years or so ago (from today's date) a war erupted between two tribes in Rwanda. It really didn't matter who started it. Traditionally he said the winner would rid the area of the loser's people by selling them to Arab slavers but this option was no longer available so the victorious tribe butchered the men of the losing one But they chose not to butcher the women, having better uses for them, and could not bring themselves to butcher the children Over the next twenty years those children heard the story of what befell their father's and hated their father's killers for it. So they finally rode up and fought, and this time they won and this time they butchered the sons of the men who butchered their fathers, and found the mettle to slaughter some of the women too. But even they could not bring themselves to butcher the children they left orphaned And guess what Over the next twenty years those children grew up and realised the doors their grandfather's had made So they rose up and slaughtered wholesale, man, woman and child alike And that said the speaker is the answer What sort of man butcher's children like this ? The sort who knows if they are left to live then in twenty years their sons and daughters will be next So, is your neighbour the tribe who did the most recent bit of butchery, or were they the ones wielding the slaughterhouse kit twenty years previous
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Post by Bentley on Jul 31, 2024 12:35:48 GMT
Of course they do . Do you think that the Taliban and ISIS were primitive and cruel because of the hot sun or their culture ? Depends in the ethnicity and culture . The fact that I picked a country of white peoples seems to have gone over your head . Why should I apologise? Are all ethnic minorities the same ? If not, why ask? So you don't accept any responsibility or connection to crimes committed by people from your demographic group? You don't think that the ethnicity of people from your demographic group who commit crimes has any relevance to said crimes? No one in my demographic group belong to a 7th century , homophobic, misogynistic and patriarchal cult. All Muslims do. Yes there are a few white supremacist groups but they are very rare .
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Post by Bentley on Jul 31, 2024 12:37:54 GMT
This is absolute bullshit . When white people kick it’s the EDL . When Muslims kick off they were probably goaded by the EDL. Oh please, you have to be naive to think the EDL haven't jumped on this. Police are saying they came in from outside the area to cause trouble. I’m not naive enough to believe that it’s all the work of EDL . Do you believe that all violent protest by Muslims are part of extreme Islamic groups ?
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 31, 2024 12:40:55 GMT
Here's a thing...
Just listened to a report about yesterdays trouble in Southport, it seems the police are blaming rumours on social media that claim the killer is a muslim. But here's the kicker, the police refuse to confirm/deny it which is obviously fueling speculation.
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Post by Bentley on Jul 31, 2024 12:41:31 GMT
Indeed and this has been noted. Especially by women . Women take advice about protecting themselves from MEN. As a man I tend to be mindful of that too. You appear to be using an example that disputed your own argument . Do you think you should be judged by the actions of violent men? No and the post you replied to explained why . Are you going to ignore posts and just repeat the same thing ?
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jul 31, 2024 12:41:56 GMT
So you don't accept any responsibility or connection to crimes committed by people from your demographic group? You don't think that the ethnicity of people from your demographic group who commit crimes has any relevance to said crimes? No one in my demographic group belong to a 7th century , homophobic, misogynistic and patriarchal cult. All Muslims do. Yes there are a few white supremacist groups but they are very rare . Plenty of people in your demographic group are homophobic, patriarchal and mysogistic. Your demographic group (Men) are also responsible for most violent crime. Do you accept responsibility for this?
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jul 31, 2024 12:43:36 GMT
Do you think you should be judged by the actions of violent men? No and the post you replied to explained why . Are you going to ignore posts and just repeat the same thing ? Do you think ethnic minorities should be judged by the violent actions of other ethnic minorities?
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Post by Orac on Jul 31, 2024 12:48:43 GMT
Merseyside’s police and crime commissioner, Emily Spurrell, has said there is a “strong feeling” that members of the English Defence League have used the Southport stabbing to “whip up hatred”. Terrible stuff.. Imagine using child executions to 'whip up hatred' - what a thin excuse
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Post by Bentley on Jul 31, 2024 12:50:39 GMT
No one in my demographic group belong to a 7th century , homophobic, misogynistic and patriarchal cult. All Muslims do. Yes there are a few white supremacist groups but they are very rare . Plenty of people in your demographic group are homophobic, patriarchal and mysogistic. Your demographic group (Men) are also responsible for most violent crime. Do you accept responsibility for this? Yes but being homophobic, misogynistic and patriarchal is not only part of the culture but demonstrably part of the culture . I accept that men tend to be more violent than women . Do you accept Islam is a homophobic, misogynistic and patriarchal cult?
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Post by Bentley on Jul 31, 2024 12:51:10 GMT
No and the post you replied to explained why . Are you going to ignore posts and just repeat the same thing ? Do you think ethnic minorities should be judged by the violent actions of other ethnic minorities? Did I say that ?
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 31, 2024 12:52:54 GMT
Merseyside’s police and crime commissioner, Emily Spurrell, has said there is a “strong feeling” that members of the English Defence League have used the Southport stabbing to “whip up hatred”. Speaking on ITV’s Good Morning Britain programme, She said: "There is a strong feeling that there are individuals like the EDL, who have been using this incredibly tragic event to whip up hatred, incite violence, and that’s the result of what we saw last night. There is a strong sense that this is people who have come from out-of-area simply to create violence and abuse against officers and towards a community who are not in any way accepting of this behaviour." I'd suggest that it was the BAME suspect who whipped up hatred when he decided to murder innocent children. Emily Spurrel is another engaged in the type of appeasement where the real victims are passed over and the suspect somehow becomes a victim. And it really needs to stop.
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jul 31, 2024 12:53:17 GMT
Do you think ethnic minorities should be judged by the violent actions of other ethnic minorities? Did I say that ? So you agree that just as it would be wrong to judge you by the actions of other, violent men, it would be equally wrong to judge ethnic minorities by the actions of other, violent ethnic minorities?
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jul 31, 2024 12:54:18 GMT
Merseyside’s police and crime commissioner, Emily Spurrell, has said there is a “strong feeling” that members of the English Defence League have used the Southport stabbing to “whip up hatred”. Speaking on ITV’s Good Morning Britain programme, She said: "There is a strong feeling that there are individuals like the EDL, who have been using this incredibly tragic event to whip up hatred, incite violence, and that’s the result of what we saw last night. There is a strong sense that this is people who have come from out-of-area simply to create violence and abuse against officers and towards a community who are not in any way accepting of this behaviour." I'd suggest that it was the BAME suspect who whipped up hatred when he decided to murder innocent children. Emily Spurrel is another engaged in the type of appeasement where the real victims are passed over and the suspect somehow becomes a victim. And it really needs to stop. You think the idiots who turned up with booze and injured dozens of police officers were putting the victims first?
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Post by Bentley on Jul 31, 2024 12:56:14 GMT
So you agree that just as it would be wrong to judge you by the actions of other, violent men, it would be equally wrong to judge ethnic minorities by the actions of other, violent ethnic minorities? Do you read posts or just repeat the same thing ? Ive addressed the point about men being more violent than women .
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