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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 10, 2024 18:27:09 GMT
It was racist, as I said. I don't think it was necessarily racist. I think it was part of wider Islamist attack on Taylor Swift, or Taylor Swift events, as reported in other countries. Well, to paraphrase Enoch, he essentially said the the term “Racialist” could be applied to anyone and anything. As the left do. And, as we all know full well, if a white man had stabbed a number of random black people the whole media and political machine would have ramped up into full-on “It's racism/Far Right” mode. But let's step back: Although Enoch was correct, racism does exist. Or rather more commonly ethnicism exists: Hostility based on ethnicity or presumed ethnicity. For example, Islamism: Hatred towards non-Muslims. It's not racism. It's ethnicism. And that's the motive for the Southport stabbings. The victims were little kids. He didn't know them. They'd done nothing to him, nor his community. The motive was ethnicism – they were different, part of a different community, ethnically different.
And he was mad enough, or indoctrinated enough, to attack based on ethnicity.
So yeah, maybe not racism but certainly ethnicism.
Although the media and the left use the terms interchangeably, so why shouldn't we.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 10, 2024 18:40:28 GMT
Well, to paraphrase Enoch, he essentially said the the term “Racialist” could be applied to anyone and anything. As the left do. And, as we all know full well, if a white man had stabbed a number of random black people the whole media and political machine would have ramped up into full-on “It's racism/Far Right” mode. But let's step back: Although Enoch was correct, racism does exist. Or rather more commonly ethnicism exists: Hostility based on ethnicity or presumed ethnicity. For example, Islamism: Hatred towards non-Muslims. It's not racism. It's ethnicism. And that's the motive for the Southport stabbings. The victims were little kids. He didn't know them. They'd done nothing to him, nor his community. The motive was ethnicism – they were different, part of a different community, ethnically different. And he was mad enough, or indoctrinated enough, to attack based on ethnicity. So yeah, maybe not racism but certainly ethnicism. Although the media and the left use the terms interchangeably, so why shouldn't we. I certainly don't disagree with Enoch Powell perish the thought, but there may be more to the Southport attack than just racism, which is why the police are refusing to tell us what the motive was.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 10, 2024 20:46:36 GMT
Well, to paraphrase Enoch, he essentially said the the term “Racialist” could be applied to anyone and anything. As the left do. And, as we all know full well, if a white man had stabbed a number of random black people the whole media and political machine would have ramped up into full-on “It's racism/Far Right” mode. But let's step back: Although Enoch was correct, racism does exist. Or rather more commonly ethnicism exists: Hostility based on ethnicity or presumed ethnicity. For example, Islamism: Hatred towards non-Muslims. It's not racism. It's ethnicism. And that's the motive for the Southport stabbings. The victims were little kids. He didn't know them. They'd done nothing to him, nor his community. The motive was ethnicism – they were different, part of a different community, ethnically different. And he was mad enough, or indoctrinated enough, to attack based on ethnicity. So yeah, maybe not racism but certainly ethnicism. Although the media and the left use the terms interchangeably, so why shouldn't we. I certainly don't disagree with Enoch Powell perish the thought, but there may be more to the Southport attack than just racism, which is why the police are refusing to tell us what the motive was.
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Post by aristaeus on Aug 12, 2024 10:03:31 GMT
I don't think it was necessarily racist. I think it was part of wider Islamist attack on Taylor Swift, or Taylor Swift events, as reported in other countries. Well, to paraphrase Enoch, he essentially said the the term “Racialist” could be applied to anyone and anything. As the left do. And, as we all know full well, if a white man had stabbed a number of random black people the whole media and political machine would have ramped up into full-on “It's racism/Far Right” mode. But let's step back: Although Enoch was correct, racism does exist. Or rather more commonly ethnicism exists: Hostility based on ethnicity or presumed ethnicity. For example, Islamism: Hatred towards non-Muslims. It's not racism. It's ethnicism. And that's the motive for the Southport stabbings. The victims were little kids. He didn't know them. They'd done nothing to him, nor his community. The motive was ethnicism – they were different, part of a different community, ethnically different.
And he was mad enough, or indoctrinated enough, to attack based on ethnicity.
So yeah, maybe not racism but certainly ethnicism.
Although the media and the left use the terms interchangeably, so why shouldn't we.
No motive has been announced, so you're just making shit up.
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 12, 2024 10:22:28 GMT
Well, to paraphrase Enoch, he essentially said the the term “Racialist” could be applied to anyone and anything. As the left do. And, as we all know full well, if a white man had stabbed a number of random black people the whole media and political machine would have ramped up into full-on “It's racism/Far Right” mode. But let's step back: Although Enoch was correct, racism does exist. Or rather more commonly ethnicism exists: Hostility based on ethnicity or presumed ethnicity. For example, Islamism: Hatred towards non-Muslims. It's not racism. It's ethnicism. And that's the motive for the Southport stabbings. The victims were little kids. He didn't know them. They'd done nothing to him, nor his community. The motive was ethnicism – they were different, part of a different community, ethnically different.
And he was mad enough, or indoctrinated enough, to attack based on ethnicity.
So yeah, maybe not racism but certainly ethnicism.
Although the media and the left use the terms interchangeably, so why shouldn't we.
No motive has been announced, so you're just making shit up. And it probably won't be for a long time. The authorities will try and brush this one under the carpet if and when his motives come to the fore that discredit any part of a political/social/cultural ideology they're desperate to uphold.
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Post by sandypine on Aug 12, 2024 10:33:18 GMT
Well, to paraphrase Enoch, he essentially said the the term “Racialist” could be applied to anyone and anything. As the left do. And, as we all know full well, if a white man had stabbed a number of random black people the whole media and political machine would have ramped up into full-on “It's racism/Far Right” mode. But let's step back: Although Enoch was correct, racism does exist. Or rather more commonly ethnicism exists: Hostility based on ethnicity or presumed ethnicity. For example, Islamism: Hatred towards non-Muslims. It's not racism. It's ethnicism. And that's the motive for the Southport stabbings. The victims were little kids. He didn't know them. They'd done nothing to him, nor his community. The motive was ethnicism – they were different, part of a different community, ethnically different.
And he was mad enough, or indoctrinated enough, to attack based on ethnicity.
So yeah, maybe not racism but certainly ethnicism.
Although the media and the left use the terms interchangeably, so why shouldn't we.
No motive has been announced, so you're just making shit up. But can we infer a motive from what we know, that is the normal way it works. Derek Chauvin was a racist killer was concluded based only the information available at the time and that was he was white and his victim black. The motive in Southport is subject to what we know, he was black. he travelled a fair distance to arrive at a location where mainly little white girls were gathering, he must have targeted that specific venue and researched information on it and arrived as it was in progress. It was pre planned and has the hallmarks of many similar pre planned stabbings most significantly the recent Austrian concert cancellations. People are guessing motives based on scant information but that is quite common and the suspicion is growing that providing scant information is now a deliberate policy as what is now known by the authorities is not good for community cohesion. So it is odds on it will be in the end mental health issues which seems to be rampant amongst our ethnic minority groups.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 12, 2024 13:49:51 GMT
No motive has been announced... Which, within this context, suggests much in its own right. ...so you're just making shit up. The irony. But get well soon, Stevie. Or perhaps I should say: Get real soon, Stevie. Although we all know that neither of those are going to happen.
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Post by aristaeus on Aug 12, 2024 14:04:10 GMT
No motive has been announced... Which, within this context, suggests much in its own right. It suggests nothing except possibly the police haven't established a motive. You failed logic 101.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 12, 2024 14:08:56 GMT
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Post by sandypine on Aug 12, 2024 16:27:41 GMT
Which, within this context, suggests much in its own right. It suggests nothing except possibly the police haven't established a motive. You failed logic 101. It suggests all sorts of things based on precedent. Logic takes you exactly to a place that the authorities would prefer not to be existent. Black impressionable youth, no details as regards associations, white very young girl victims, knife incident, pre-planned. If you are not reaching a conclusion you are not applying any logic. It of course could be wrong but if one applies logic then the odds shorten considerably.
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Post by Orac on Aug 13, 2024 7:59:53 GMT
Sadly, this guy often talks nonsense and in this case, for some bizarre reason, he decides to do his presentation with no shirt on. Is he relaxing at a gym? Is attempting to appeal to gay men? who knows.
Hos take on the motivation for the rioting was also 'spot on'. However, the right have to start taking the quality of leadership seriously. A leader needs to be something more than a person who can generate 'a spot on take' 30% of the time.
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