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Post by aristaeus on Jul 31, 2024 11:27:14 GMT
Merseyside’s police and crime commissioner, Emily Spurrell, has said there is a “strong feeling” that members of the English Defence League have used the Southport stabbing to “whip up hatred”.
Speaking on ITV’s Good Morning Britain programme, She said:
"There is a strong feeling that there are individuals like the EDL, who have been using this incredibly tragic event to whip up hatred, incite violence, and that’s the result of what we saw last night.
There is a strong sense that this is people who have come from out-of-area simply to create violence and abuse against officers and towards a community who are not in any way accepting of this behaviour."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2024 11:29:32 GMT
"Strong feeling" = more management of the situation. It couldn't be the local people are rightly outraged over the murder of three girls?
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Post by sandypine on Jul 31, 2024 11:32:50 GMT
No one here has ever said that every migrant or every person belonging to a minority ethnic group is or was selfish. If you are going to attribute negative actions to people's ethnicity then surely you have to do the same with positive actions? Would you like to thank Joel Verite's demographic group for his brave and selfless actions? It is called observation and assessment of risk. Does a BAME person pose a risk to me and mine greater than the risk with the white ethnic group. All things being equal that would be a yes based on the information available. That is not fair but it is how we get by in life. So it is one factor in the multitude of factors one assesses every minute of every day. As regards positive and negative then we also have to consider enrichment and degradation. If we are allowed to consider enrichment as a positive effect of immigration on our culture then it would be reasonable to also refer to degrading effects on our culture. At this point racist accusations normally kick in. |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 31, 2024 11:33:38 GMT
His name / ethnicity is is not the same as why he did it.
Michael Ryan being white and British doesn't explain what he did in 1987.
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Post by Bentley on Jul 31, 2024 11:33:48 GMT
Merseyside’s police and crime commissioner, Emily Spurrell, has said there is a “strong feeling” that members of the English Defence League have used the Southport stabbing to “whip up hatred”. Speaking on ITV’s Good Morning Britain programme, She said: "There is a strong feeling that there are individuals like the EDL, who have been using this incredibly tragic event to whip up hatred, incite violence, and that’s the result of what we saw last night. There is a strong sense that this is people who have come from out-of-area simply to create violence and abuse against officers and towards a community who are not in any way accepting of this behaviour." This is absolute bullshit . When white people kick it’s the EDL . When Muslims kick off they were probably goaded by the EDL. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 31, 2024 11:46:10 GMT
Regardless of where he was born, this is yet another case of a deranged muslim murdering infidels in this none islamic country. This is why people in Southport rioted last night, they are sick of the police/government refusing to tell the truth. How long before we're told he has mental health issues. Rwanda is a Christian country. This is basic fucking information that is easy to find out, so it makes me wonder why you're pushing a Muslim narrative. He was apparently born in Wales which is also a Christian country, what has that got to do with anything? It was reported yesterday the killer has a 'muslim sounding' name, the reporter who said this on GB News said he had seen the name written down but because the killer is allegedly 17 years old he is prevented by law from saying it on air. Personally, I think if his name was John Smith the police would have identified him to stop any speculation that it was yet another muslim attack. However, since no admission has been made people will obviously come to their own conclusions. We'll see. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jul 31, 2024 11:51:28 GMT
If you are going to attribute negative actions to people's ethnicity then surely you have to do the same with positive actions? Would you like to thank Joel Verite's demographic group for his brave and selfless actions? It is called observation and assessment of risk. Does a BAME person pose a risk to me and mine greater than the risk with the white ethnic group. All things being equal that would be a yes based on the information available. That is not fair but it is how we get by in life. So it is one factor in the multitude of factors one assesses every minute of every day. As regards positive and negative then we also have to consider enrichment and degradation. If we are allowed to consider enrichment as a positive effect of immigration on our culture then it would be reasonable to also refer to degrading effects on our culture. At this point racist accusations normally kick in. Most violent crime is committed by men. As a man do you accept responsibility for this? Would you like to apologise on behalf of your demographic group? |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jul 31, 2024 11:52:40 GMT
His name / ethnicity is is not the same as why he did it. Michael Ryan being white and British doesn't explain what he did in 1987. Precisely. A person's ethnicity is only brought into the discussion when it's an ethnic minority and/or immigrant. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jul 31, 2024 12:00:04 GMT
If you are going to attribute negative actions to people's ethnicity then surely you have to do the same with positive actions? Would you like to thank Joel Verite's demographic group for his brave and selfless actions? Ethnicity and culture attribute much to negative actions . Ask the people who hate whites . I would thank Joel Verite’s actions in the same way that I would have thanked Germans in the 1940s for saving Jewish children . We need more Joel Verites but I’m not convinced there are enough to consider him a typical example of ethnic minorities. "Ethnicity and culture attribute much to negative actions' Do they? Is there any scientific proof of this? Are you saying ethnicity and culture cannot attribute to positive actions? "I would have thanked Germans in the 1940s for saving Jewish children" Remind me again what colour most German Nazis were. Would you like to apologise on behalf of the white community? "I’m not convinced there are enough to consider him a typical example of ethnic minorities" Do you think that the Southport killer is a typical example of ethnic minorities? |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 31, 2024 12:01:57 GMT
It is called observation and assessment of risk. Does a BAME person pose a risk to me and mine greater than the risk with the white ethnic group. All things being equal that would be a yes based on the information available. That is not fair but it is how we get by in life. So it is one factor in the multitude of factors one assesses every minute of every day. As regards positive and negative then we also have to consider enrichment and degradation. If we are allowed to consider enrichment as a positive effect of immigration on our culture then it would be reasonable to also refer to degrading effects on our culture. At this point racist accusations normally kick in. Most violent crime is committed by men. As a man do you accept responsibility for this? Would you like to apologise on behalf of your demographic group? Indeed and this has been noted. Especially by women . Women take advice about protecting themselves from MEN. As a man I tend to be mindful of that too. You appear to be using an example that disputed your own argument . |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 31, 2024 12:08:47 GMT
Ethnicity and culture attribute much to negative actions . Ask the people who hate whites . I would thank Joel Verite’s actions in the same way that I would have thanked Germans in the 1940s for saving Jewish children . We need more Joel Verites but I’m not convinced there are enough to consider him a typical example of ethnic minorities. "Ethnicity and culture attribute much to negative actions' Do they? Is there any scientific proof of this? Are you saying ethnicity and culture cannot attribute to positive actions? "I would have thanked Germans in the 1940s for saving Jewish children" Remind me again what colour most German Nazis were. Would you like to apologise on behalf of the white community? "I’m not convinced there are enough to consider him a typical example of ethnic minorities" Do you think that the Southport killer is a typical example of ethnic minorities? Of course they do . Do you think that the Taliban and ISIS were primitive and cruel because of the hot sun or their culture ? Depends in the ethnicity and culture . The fact that I picked a country of white peoples seems to have gone over your head . Why should I apologise? Are all ethnic minorities the same ? If not, why ask? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 31, 2024 12:13:04 GMT
Did you not see the first reports ? This was said right at the outset Police have stated this is not terrorism related but is a problem caused by ‘mental health issues’ It goes without saying. If any attacker, murderer, bomber, is anything other than IC1 then standard operating procedure seems to be... SOP for briefing the press. Para 1 line 1. a)Give a very brief interview in which no information is given other than to cite mental health issues. b)Remind the press that the vast majority of crime is carried out by nasty white English people. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jul 31, 2024 12:17:21 GMT
"Ethnicity and culture attribute much to negative actions' Do they? Is there any scientific proof of this? Are you saying ethnicity and culture cannot attribute to positive actions? "I would have thanked Germans in the 1940s for saving Jewish children" Remind me again what colour most German Nazis were. Would you like to apologise on behalf of the white community? "I’m not convinced there are enough to consider him a typical example of ethnic minorities" Do you think that the Southport killer is a typical example of ethnic minorities? Of course they do . Do you think that the Taliban and ISIS were primitive and cruel because of the hot sun or their culture ? Depends in the ethnicity and culture . The fact that I picked a country of white peoples seems to have gone over your head . Why should I apologise? Are all ethnic minorities the same ? If not, why ask? So you don't accept any responsibility or connection to crimes committed by people from your demographic group? You don't think that the ethnicity of people from your demographic group who commit crimes has any relevance to said crimes? |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jul 31, 2024 12:19:45 GMT
Most violent crime is committed by men. As a man do you accept responsibility for this? Would you like to apologise on behalf of your demographic group? Indeed and this has been noted. Especially by women . Women take advice about protecting themselves from MEN. As a man I tend to be mindful of that too. You appear to be using an example that disputed your own argument . Do you think you should be judged by the actions of violent men? |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jul 31, 2024 12:24:28 GMT
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