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Post by Bentley on Jul 29, 2024 18:10:36 GMT
Show how little you know. The minimum wage is £11.44 now for most adults and shelf stackers in my store are on just over £12 an hour. If our employer had us working 50 hour weeks we could get our pay well above 30k. If we were to work 60 hour weeks we'd earn more than the median for junior doctors, who often do work ridiculously long hours for what they get Minimum wage only applies to companies signing up to pay it. I think it’s ‘ living wage’ thats optional. Minimum wage is just that . |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 29, 2024 18:11:34 GMT
Trainee Shelf stackers earn over £32000 per annum from day 1 of their training ? Well I never , how much does a checkout assistant earn if that's so , is that why supermarkets have seen increased prices? Trainee doctors who have only just qualified and still training on the very lowest rung of the ladder will see their basic pay increase from £32000 to nearly £37000 with this backdated monster pay rise. Let's hope that at least some of these apprentices are competent The government will also accept the recommendations of the Review Body on Doctors’ and Dentists’ Remuneration (DDRB) for 2024-25 and uplift each part of the pay scale by 6%, plus £1,000 on a consolidated basis, averaging an increase of over 8%, with an effective date of 1 April 2024.
Both rises combined means a doctor starting foundation training in the NHS will see their base pay increase to £36,600It takes little training to stack shelves. Which illustrates the point about why junior doctors ought to be paid a lot more than them. Shelf stackers tend to be paid the going rate from day 1 The only reason they don't earn 32k per annum is they don't do anything like the same hours as junior doctors. If they did their pay would be far nearer 30k or more. Why do you keep demeaning the work of shelf stacker??
It goes against everything the caring, everyone is equal lefty agenda.
You are a utter disgrace, a shelf stacker keeps me, you and the rest of us able to pick and choose our food from the shelf ........ YOU FUCKING SNOB.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2024 18:13:28 GMT
Show how little you know. The minimum wage is £11.44 now for most adults and shelf stackers in my store are on just over £12 an hour. If our employer had us working 50 hour weeks we could get our pay well above 30k. If we were to work 60 hour weeks we'd earn more than the median for junior doctors, who often do work ridiculously long hours for what they get Minimum wage only applies to companies signing up to pay it. You are talking shit as usual.....the minimum wage is legally binding for all employees. It is not optional. Any employer paying less than the legal minimum is breaking the law and could find himself on the wrong end of an employment tribunal. There are lower minimums for very young workers, but these, though lower, are legally binding too. Those whose employees work in whole or in part outside UK jurisdiction, eg on cruise liners, might be the victims of loopholes that do not allow for that, but otherwise if you pay less than minimum wage, as an employer you are a criminal. And the law will catch up with you eventually, resulting in a hefty bill. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2024 18:16:20 GMT
It takes little training to stack shelves. Which illustrates the point about why junior doctors ought to be paid a lot more than them. Shelf stackers tend to be paid the going rate from day 1 The only reason they don't earn 32k per annum is they don't do anything like the same hours as junior doctors. If they did their pay would be far nearer 30k or more. Why do you keep demeaning the work of shelf stacker??
It goes against everything the caring, everyone is equal lefty agenda.
You are a utter disgrace, a shelf stacker keeps me, you and the rest of us able to pick and choose our food from the shelf ........ YOU FUCKING SNOB.
Don't be an utter bellend, lol. Do you not realise that as a supermarket employee myself I too sometimes stack shelves as well as manning checkouts? Shelf stackers and junior doctors both are more deserving than you sitting there whingeing about losing a handout you dont even need. lol But are you seriously trying to argue that a junior doctor deserves little more than me, just to defend your continued right to a handout you don't even need? You scrounging old bastard, lol |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 29, 2024 18:18:44 GMT
Why do you keep demeaning the work of shelf stacker??
It goes against everything the caring, everyone is equal lefty agenda.
You are a utter disgrace, a shelf stacker keeps me, you and the rest of us able to pick and choose our food from the shelf ........ YOU FUCKING SNOB.
Don't be an utter bellend, lol. Do you not realise that as a supermarket employee myself I too sometimes stack shelves as well as manning checkouts? Shelf stackers and junior doctors both are more deserving of you sitting there whingeing about losing a handout you dont even need. lol Hard luck we can see your past posts and you are clearly stating that Junior Doctors are worthy of any such pay rise, whereas shelf stackers are just shelf stackers, you fucking left hypocrite. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2024 18:20:37 GMT
Don't be an utter bellend, lol. Do you not realise that as a supermarket employee myself I too sometimes stack shelves as well as manning checkouts? Shelf stackers and junior doctors both are more deserving of you sitting there whingeing about losing a handout you dont even need. lol Hard luck we can see your past posts and you are clearly stating that Junior Doctors are worthy of any such pay rise, whereas shelf stackers are just shelf stackers, you fucking left hypocrite. You think shelf stackers like me should be paid the same as junior doctors? I never realised you were a communist, lol |
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Post by bancroft on Jul 29, 2024 18:22:11 GMT
Minimum wage only applies to companies signing up to pay it. ....the minimum wage is legally binding for all employees. It is not optional. Any employer paying less than the legal minimum is breaking the law and could find himself on the wrong end of an employment tribunal. There are lower minimums for very young workers, but these, though lower, are legally binding too. Those whose employees work in whole or in part outside UK jurisdiction, eg on cruise liners, might be the victims of loopholes that do not allow for that, but otherwise if you pay less than minimum wage, as an employer you are a criminal. And the law will catch up with you eventually, resulting in a hefty bill. Careful there, I have an ESP technique I was attacked on a different forum and then worked out he had defrauded vulnerable in a financial institution. He never attacked me again and then got banned later for using too much foul-mouthed language for the mods. So are you saying for any smaller independent food provider anywhere in the country they must pay £11.44 per hour and how long has this been the case? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 29, 2024 18:24:33 GMT
Hard luck we can see your past posts and you are clearly stating that Junior Doctors are worthy of any such pay rise, whereas shelf stackers are just shelf stackers, you fucking left hypocrite. You think shelf stackers like me should be paid the same as junior doctors? I never realised you were a communist, lol Shelf stackers haven't caused a massive backlog in waiting lists for food, shelf stackers just get on with it, shelf stackers don't ask for preferential treatment even though they SERVE the public, junior doctors serve the public as do 'shelf stackers', junior doctors couldn't buy food if shelf stackers went on strike for 22% inflation busting pay rises, junior doctors should know their place, they serve the public and their service is no different or beneficial than a shelf stacker.
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Post by ratcliff on Jul 29, 2024 18:29:47 GMT
Trainee Shelf stackers earn over £32000 per annum from day 1 of their training ? Well I never , how much does a checkout assistant earn if that's so , is that why supermarkets have seen increased prices? Trainee doctors who have only just qualified and still training on the very lowest rung of the ladder will see their basic pay increase from £32000 to nearly £37000 with this backdated monster pay rise. Let's hope that at least some of these apprentices are competent The government will also accept the recommendations of the Review Body on Doctors’ and Dentists’ Remuneration (DDRB) for 2024-25 and uplift each part of the pay scale by 6%, plus £1,000 on a consolidated basis, averaging an increase of over 8%, with an effective date of 1 April 2024.
Both rises combined means a doctor starting foundation training in the NHS will see their base pay increase to £36,600It takes little training to stack shelves. Which illustrates the point about why junior doctors ought to be paid a lot more than them. Shelf stackers tend to be paid the going rate from day 1 The only reason they don't earn 32k per annum is they don't do anything like the same hours as junior doctors. If they did their pay would be far nearer 30k or more. Junior doctors can work for a maximum of 48 hours a week when they aren't on strike chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.nhsemployers.org/system/files/media/Rota-rules-at-a-glance_0.pdf |
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 29, 2024 18:36:00 GMT
I think it takes something like 7yrs to train has a docter .
Long hard careers.
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Post by andrewbrown on Jul 29, 2024 19:16:18 GMT
So are you saying for any smaller independent food provider anywhere in the country they must pay £11.44 per hour and how long has this been the case? The minimum wage came in 1998, nearly 30 years ago! The rate is increased each April. |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 29, 2024 19:23:58 GMT
Everyone else in the NHS will be eyeballing the junior doctors rise and will want parity.
So theres plenty more of wage rises to come .
The NHS will draw a few more billions from the tax payers. When the NHS is no better than it was the usual suspects will know the answer …. Tax and spend more .
Anyway , I hope it improves the service .
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Post by bancroft on Jul 29, 2024 19:28:26 GMT
So are you saying for any smaller independent food provider anywhere in the country they must pay £11.44 per hour and how long has this been the case? The minimum wage came in 1998, nearly 30 years ago! The rate is increased each April. Interesting yet when was the fuss about bigger companies arguing about it that was more recent. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2024 19:38:40 GMT
It's actually 22.3% over 2 years, so about 11%, not much above recent inflation levels.
It won't fix the NHS, of course.
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Post by patman post on Jul 29, 2024 19:42:32 GMT
I think I prefer tax income to be used for paying doctors rather than for supposed winter fuel allowance to comfortably off pensioners.
It’s about time the economy was geared to towards working and earning people instead of elderly Tory voters…
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