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Post by steppenwolf on Jul 19, 2024 7:29:35 GMT
Only the govt has the power to set up a statutory enquiry. But the govt doesn't choose the people who run it. They're usually judges and lawyers/barrister - who are almost always Lefties. One of the obvious problems with this enquiry is that the legal profession is inappropriate for what should be an investigative enquiry - not one trying to establish blame, which is plainly what the barristers are mainly interested in.
And the people who are giving evidence are predominantly politicians and civil servants - with the civil servants mainly trying to blame the politicians - even for things that are the job of civil servants (like procuring PPE). There's a noticeable absence of anyone who knows about pandemics or viruses.
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 19, 2024 7:38:43 GMT
Only the govt has the power to set up a statutory enquiry. But the govt doesn't choose the people who run it. They're usually judges and lawyers/barrister - who are almost always Lefties. One of the obvious problems with this enquiry is that the legal profession is inappropriate for what should be an investigative enquiry - not one trying to establish blame, which is plainly what the barristers are mainly interested in.
And the people who are giving evidence are predominantly politicians and civil servants - with the civil servants mainly trying to blame the politicians - even for things that are the job of civil servants (like procuring PPE). There's a noticeable absence of anyone who knows about pandemics or viruses. There is a lot of truth in this. Take the PPE fiasco - we had plenty of PPE but it was outside of its use-by date and thus only fit for the skip. Apparently though this is the fault of some politician in Westminster - did they really expect the Health Secretary to spend his days in a warehouse in Liverpool looking at date stamps? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 19, 2024 7:45:09 GMT
This enquiry is just a transparent political attack on Boris and the Conservative government... And a complete waste of time, like all such enquiries. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 19, 2024 7:46:05 GMT
I think one thing that does stand out a country mile with Covid is a lot of people saw ££££££££££££ signs.
In fact it was a get rich quick scheme, and it was jobs for the boys, but Labour are just hypocrites if we have another pandemic under Starmer there's nothing he will do different than Johnson when it comes to handing out contracts, that's one of the main reason Labour wont let it drop... because they missed out on the big deals.
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Post by Bentley on Jul 19, 2024 9:53:55 GMT
I think one thing that does stand out a country mile with Covid is a lot of people saw ££££££££££££ signs. In fact it was a get rich quick scheme, and it was jobs for the boys, but Labour are just hypocrites if we have another pandemic under Starmer there's nothing he will do different than Johnson when it comes to handing out contracts, that's one of the main reason Labour wont let it drop... because they missed out on the big deals. Yup. A print mailing company that I worked for kept itself afloat by one of the directors procuring PPE and selling it. |
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Post by ratcliff on Jul 19, 2024 11:57:31 GMT
Jeez, the whole Covid bollocks should've been ignored. "But Covid killed my granny..." Yeah, 'course. What a bunch of arse gravy. Well it nearly bloody killed me … But as i said many times, the real problem was that Ferguson twat. Wailing like Cassandra that you’re all going to die while at the same time inviting this (married to someone else) regular slapper of his acquaintance round to his for a shag, giving her the pox while shagging her and then a bit later going round hers while she’s poxed up for an away play with extra time. If he really did think it was a total extinction level event he’s a seriously selfish bastard and then some. So i just think he’s a lying bastard When has Ferguson ever got anything right? Why do governments (of different colours ) still listen to his idiotic predictions? |
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Post by ratcliff on Jul 19, 2024 12:03:36 GMT
Only the govt has the power to set up a statutory enquiry. But the govt doesn't choose the people who run it. They're usually judges and lawyers/barrister - who are almost always Lefties. One of the obvious problems with this enquiry is that the legal profession is inappropriate for what should be an investigative enquiry - not one trying to establish blame, which is plainly what the barristers are mainly interested in.
And the people who are giving evidence are predominantly politicians and civil servants - with the civil servants mainly trying to blame the politicians - even for things that are the job of civil servants (like procuring PPE). There's a noticeable absence of anyone who knows about pandemics or viruses. There is a lot of truth in this. Take the PPE fiasco - we had plenty of PPE but it was outside of its use-by date and thus only fit for the skip. Apparently though this is the fault of some politician in Westminster - did they really expect the Health Secretary to spend his days in a warehouse in Liverpool looking at date stamps? Lefties would , I read that the NHS/Public Health wallahs kept changing the spec required ,eg purchased facemasks with ear loops were deemed persona non grata and binned in favour of those with loops that went round the back of the head |
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Post by see2 on Jul 19, 2024 12:19:52 GMT
That decision was Boris to make not sir Starmer. Thankfully, had it been left to Starmer you would double those death figures. I believe the full report will show that you have been entirely misled. |
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Post by see2 on Jul 19, 2024 12:21:32 GMT
Why do you waste peoples time by posting useless comments ^^ on this forum?? Why do you waste people's time .... period. The usual schoolyard reply ^^ |
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Post by see2 on Jul 19, 2024 12:36:25 GMT
If responsibility starts at the top. Maybe borris Johnson should HANG. One of the most eye-catching conclusions of this report is that the UK was prepared for the “wrong” pandemic when Covid hit. But what exactly does that mean? Much of the work carried out before 2020 was designed to deal with the “significant risk” of a new form of pandemic influenza. Today’s report says that approach was “inadequate for a global pandemic of the kind that struck”. Those influenza plans focused on dealing with the fallout from the disease rather than trying to stop it in its tracks. They relied on being able to quickly tweak existing vaccines to work against a new strain of pandemic flu, and to roll out medications, including anti-viral drugs, to those most in need. Both of those approaches would not work nearly as well against a new form of coronavirus. It also meant that measures put in place in some other countries, such as strict border controls and contract tracing to eliminate early outbreaks, were not really considered in the UK’s plans. Ridiculous interim report which for some inexplicable reason has so far lasted 2 years and cost north of £100m smackers-why? The government prepared for the wrong flu? What should they have prepared for ? Bubonic plague? 20 types of flu? widespread gastric enteritis? MRSA? the ice age? or what? Why is it the government's fault ? surely health issues should be the remit of the NHS and the invisible boss Ms Pritchard ? Whole thing smacks of the ''wrong kind of leaves on the line'' British Rail excuse for delays There are many pieces of equipment that are needed in any pandemic, this was recognised and stocks were kept that were in the system long before Covid. In February 2019 Johnson was made aware by his own people, that the stocks were out of date and useless, and needed to be replaced. He did nothing, and that led to many unnecessary deaths in 2020. |
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Post by ratcliff on Jul 19, 2024 12:51:28 GMT
Ridiculous interim report which for some inexplicable reason has so far lasted 2 years and cost north of £100m smackers-why? The government prepared for the wrong flu? What should they have prepared for ? Bubonic plague? 20 types of flu? widespread gastric enteritis? MRSA? the ice age? or what? Why is it the government's fault ? surely health issues should be the remit of the NHS and the invisible boss Ms Pritchard ? Whole thing smacks of the ''wrong kind of leaves on the line'' British Rail excuse for delays There are many pieces of equipment that are needed in any pandemic, this was recognised and stocks were kept that were in the system long before Covid. In February 2019 Johnson was made aware by his own people, that the stocks were out of date and useless, and needed to be replaced. He did nothing, and that led to many unnecessary deaths in 2020. Why don't you read the interim report and try to understand the written words used before spouting your standard lefty opinion of it's all Mrs Ts/Boris/Major/Tories fault posts? Your posts wouldn't look quite so stupid if you did so The interim report has stated so far:
The government prepared for the wrong flu
SFA to do with use by dates etc |
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Post by steppenwolf on Jul 19, 2024 13:15:42 GMT
Maybe next time the best preparation that govts can make is to find out what bat virus the Chinese are experimenting on to make it more easily transmissible to human beings - what's called "gain of function". Because that's where the next pandemic is coming from. It's either that or a chance mutation of an existing virus that makes it transmissible to humans - but that's much less likely.
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Post by see2 on Jul 19, 2024 13:35:17 GMT
There are many pieces of equipment that are needed in any pandemic, this was recognised and stocks were kept that were in the system long before Covid. In February 2019 Johnson was made aware by his own people, that the stocks were out of date and useless, and needed to be replaced. He did nothing, and that led to many unnecessary deaths in 2020. Why don't you read the interim report and try to understand the written words used before spouting your standard lefty opinion of it's all Mrs Ts/Boris/Major/Tories fault posts? Your posts wouldn't look quite so stupid if you did so The interim report has stated so far:
The government prepared for the wrong flu
SFA to do with use by dates etc Why not read what I posted, instead of jumping to Rightist comments? The materials I referred to are NEEDED in any pandemic, that's why there was a stock of such materials recognised, organised and Kept. And then ignored by Johnson 9months before Covid hit. He was supposed to have been prepared for a 'different pandemic' and yet had to build hospitals with help from the armed forces, that would have been needed in any serious pandemic and which only started opening four months after the pandemic hit. Some preparation. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2024 15:05:53 GMT
Let's take Biden. He's had 6 jabs and he's now having Covid for at least the third time.
Safe and effective.
Pfftt
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 19, 2024 17:08:46 GMT
Ridiculous interim report which for some inexplicable reason has so far lasted 2 years and cost north of £100m smackers-why? The government prepared for the wrong flu? What should they have prepared for ? Bubonic plague? 20 types of flu? widespread gastric enteritis? MRSA? the ice age? or what? Why is it the government's fault ? surely health issues should be the remit of the NHS and the invisible boss Ms Pritchard ? Whole thing smacks of the ''wrong kind of leaves on the line'' British Rail excuse for delays There are many pieces of equipment that are needed in any pandemic, this was recognised and stocks were kept that were in the system long before Covid. In February 2019 Johnson was made aware by his own people, that the stocks were out of date and useless, and needed to be replaced. He did nothing, and that led to many unnecessary deaths in 2020. When did Johnson become responsible for stocktaking in the NHS? |
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