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Post by Bentley on Jul 18, 2024 14:18:42 GMT
Thankfully, had it been left to Starmer you would double those death figures. No prove what so Ever . It was on Boris watch and he should hang hang i tell you for TREASON You’re a doofus . |
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Post by ratcliff on Jul 18, 2024 15:30:44 GMT
If responsibility starts at the top. Maybe borris Johnson should HANG. One of the most eye-catching conclusions of this report is that the UK was prepared for the “wrong” pandemic when Covid hit. But what exactly does that mean? Much of the work carried out before 2020 was designed to deal with the “significant risk” of a new form of pandemic influenza. Today’s report says that approach was “inadequate for a global pandemic of the kind that struck”. Those influenza plans focused on dealing with the fallout from the disease rather than trying to stop it in its tracks. They relied on being able to quickly tweak existing vaccines to work against a new strain of pandemic flu, and to roll out medications, including anti-viral drugs, to those most in need. Both of those approaches would not work nearly as well against a new form of coronavirus. It also meant that measures put in place in some other countries, such as strict border controls and contract tracing to eliminate early outbreaks, were not really considered in the UK’s plans. Ridiculous interim report which for some inexplicable reason has so far lasted 2 years and cost north of £100m smackers-why? The government prepared for the wrong flu? What should they have prepared for ? Bubonic plague? 20 types of flu? widespread gastric enteritis? MRSA? the ice age? or what? Why is it the government's fault ? surely health issues should be the remit of the NHS and the invisible boss Ms Pritchard ? Whole thing smacks of the ''wrong kind of leaves on the line'' British Rail excuse for delays |
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 18, 2024 16:57:56 GMT
 'Listen to the experts - follow the science' they said.. ...oh, we didn't mean those experts or that science... 👀 |
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 18, 2024 18:56:21 GMT
'Listen to the experts - follow the science' they said.. ...oh, we didn't mean those experts or that science... 👀 Of course borris choiced what experts he wanted to listen to. It was his team |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 18, 2024 19:39:38 GMT
When the epidemic began there was a huge shortage of PPE. What we had was rubbish .
However it was the NHS management that told us that it was ok to go into patients with COVID Symptoms without PPE ..not Boris .
It was NHS management that allowed porters and bed team members to enter highly vulnerable patients wards ( ie cancer wards) after COVID infected patients without changing PPE…not Boris .
COVID tests took days to get results in the first place . This is ( as I said) trial by hindsight .
When it kicked off no one had a clue how bad it would or could get . You had to be there tbh . I’ve never experienced anything like it .
Hospitals in my areas were not full of dying and dead . They were pretty much empty.
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Post by Bentley on Jul 18, 2024 19:40:40 GMT
'Listen to the experts - follow the science' they said.. ...oh, we didn't mean those experts or that science... 👀 Of course borris choiced what experts he wanted to listen to. It was his team Who else should he picked ? Ones that he didn’t want to listen to? Ffs |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 18, 2024 19:46:53 GMT
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Post by Bentley on Jul 18, 2024 19:52:07 GMT
Shouldn’t need to. The OP was making comments about a report that the poster couldn’t be bothered to link . |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 18, 2024 20:28:46 GMT
Jeez, the whole Covid bollocks should've been ignored.
"But Covid killed my granny..."
Yeah, 'course it did.
What a bunch of arse gravy.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 18, 2024 21:31:13 GMT
Jeez, the whole Covid bollocks should've been ignored. "But Covid killed my granny..." Yeah, 'course. What a bunch of arse gravy. Well it nearly bloody killed me … But as i said many times, the real problem was that Ferguson twat. Wailing like Cassandra that you’re all going to die while at the same time inviting this (married to someone else) regular slapper of his acquaintance round to his for a shag, giving her the pox while shagging her and then a bit later going round hers while she’s poxed up for an away play with extra time. If he really did think it was a total extinction level event he’s a seriously selfish bastard and then some. So i just think he’s a lying bastard |
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Post by dodgydave on Jul 19, 2024 2:10:34 GMT
You want to hang Boris for not preparing for a pandemic? The virus had escaped the Chinese lab before he was even in power lol.
Obviously we need to know if people made decisions in bad faith, and if they did they should face charges.
The problem is, we did no worse that similar countries. I cannot imagine many countries were truly "prepared". Who could justify the stockpiling of resources "just in case" when so many countries were still in massive debt after the financial crisis?
The real villain of the Covid pandemic is China. We can debate if the virus was natural or man made, but one thing is for sure, China covered up the outbreak, which allowed it to spread across the globe.
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Post by steppenwolf on Jul 19, 2024 6:51:29 GMT
This enquiry is just a transparent political attack on Boris and the Conservative government.
Exactly how the scientists are meant to know which type of virus will cause the next pandemic I don't know. There are trillions of viruses. The problem with trying to prepare for a new corona virus is that we've never managed to make a vaccine for these viruses that actually works - after many decades of trying in the case of the common cold - and the vaccines that we now have don't prevent people contracting the virus. They just make it less debilitating, and their efficacy declines very quickly. The other big problem with the Covid virus is that it becomes transmissible when it's asymptomatic which means it's very hard to control its spread.
As for the stuff about "track and trace" this only works when the outbreak is in its very early stages. As soon as the outbreak is in the wider community it's pointless. And the virus had been spreading for many weeks before the Chinese told anyone about it.
The only thing that I can think of that could have been done better is that The govt/SAGE should not have selected a computer model based on Flu to inform their policy - especially a model that was known not to work anyway. It's predictions were worthless - and there are lessons here for the modelling of climate change.
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Post by andrewbrown on Jul 19, 2024 7:08:08 GMT
This enquiry is just a transparent political attack on Boris and the Conservative government. What? The enquiry that was commissioned by... checks notes... Boris and the Conservative government? There isn't half some tosh written on this forum. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 19, 2024 7:10:35 GMT
You want to hang Boris for not preparing for a pandemic? The virus had escaped the Chinese lab before he was even in power lol. Obviously we need to know if people made decisions in bad faith, and if they did they should face charges. The problem is, we did no worse that similar countries. I cannot imagine many countries were truly "prepared". Who could justify the stockpiling of resources "just in case" when so many countries were still in massive debt after the financial crisis? The real villain of the Covid pandemic is China. We can debate if the virus was natural or man made, but one thing is for sure, China covered up the outbreak, which allowed it to spread across the globe. Of course he does. Nothing to do with incompetence. Everything to do with he is no longer able to hide from the fact his beloved party leader is about to create a fustercluck in England to Dwarf the one the party has sustained in Wales for the past quarter century L |
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 19, 2024 7:16:29 GMT
Seems an awful lot of money to spend to tell us what we already know - that we were as badly prepared as every other country in Europe.
the only thing that could have made any difference is if the NHS had been better at controlling their PPE stockpile - although whether that would have been significant for outcomes in the end..
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