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Post by sheepy on Jul 9, 2024 13:04:07 GMT
It did make me laugh, Blair has told Starmer he must get to grips with the illegal migrants. Thanks to Blair who opened the floodgates with no caps he has a damn cheek telling Starmer anything. on the contrary , Blair mandelson and brown clunking fist must keep advising starmer on everything. They will never ever be representative of the actual working classes they don't have a clue what the unwritten rules are.
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Post by sandypine on Jul 9, 2024 13:43:49 GMT
Plenty of room to build in Scotland. Abolish devolution, reform planning laws, build 5 new Garden Cities. see the big brown bits Vinny. Thats called mountains .Its why Dumfries and galloway , a mountainous region the size of east anglia , has 100 000 people , and east Anglia has 7 million. Builders dont like the cost of building in these areas , not to mention the difficulty of infrastructure , and remoteness for human habitation. whereas the Scottish central belt is as densely populated as London and the south east. remember what we said earlier about posting without thinking. I bet you dont play strategic games like chess. I have never understood why people think there is tons of room to build houses in Scotland. It must be because they have never lived anywhere else and have no perception of what disadvantages lie in the 'plenty room' areas. I lived for a few years in Leadhills and in the summer it rained a lot, the midges were diabolical from June to September on damp days and there were a lot of damp days. The old joke about 9 months winter and 3 months bad weather was very true. A garden city in Scotland in the 'empty spaces' would be a disaster.
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Post by thomas on Jul 9, 2024 13:55:27 GMT
see the big brown bits Vinny. Thats called mountains .Its why Dumfries and galloway , a mountainous region the size of east anglia , has 100 000 people , and east Anglia has 7 million. Builders dont like the cost of building in these areas , not to mention the difficulty of infrastructure , and remoteness for human habitation. whereas the Scottish central belt is as densely populated as London and the south east. remember what we said earlier about posting without thinking. I bet you dont play strategic games like chess. I have never understood why people think there is tons of room to build houses in Scotland. It must be because they have never lived anywhere else and have no perception of what disadvantages lie in the 'plenty room' areas. I lived for a few years in Leadhills and in the summer it rained a lot, the midges were diabolical from June to September on damp days and there were a lot of damp days. The old joke about 9 months winter and 3 months bad weather was very true. A garden city in Scotland in the 'empty spaces' would be a disaster. to be fair sandy , I wouldn't take vinnys post serious. Have a read at some of his low watt lightbulb posts and you will see why. Scotland should have a population around 12 million had we grown naturally like the rest of Europe , but we dont have the land to feed our people , with the merse , Ayrshire and Angus being our breadbasket , nor the land to build towns and cities on due to our terrain and geography .This isnt just a Scottish or uk problem , but very soon , it will fast become a world problem , with scientists predicting the human population will grow to 12 billion then flatline as the globe will not be able to sustain it. Hence why the policy of all governments to grow the population and expand the working age tax contributor is doomed to fail at some point on the horizon . You can see the problem little England has with land. A population the size of France , but England fits inside France five times over.
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Post by Bentley on Jul 9, 2024 14:22:44 GMT
That's a great idea, give private developers the council house contracts, with huge tax payer funded government grants as in incentive, which will bring down the building cost so the developers make even more profit, once built flog them off to investors who can rent them out as exorbitant rents. Wait till the penny drops for those Labour voters, they'll be kicking themselves up and down Downing Street. you need to read it though fair. They aren't proposing private developers get council house contracts in England. They are hoping private developers build. the correct mix to appease labour. Its laughable.. Labour aren't addressing a housing crises by building affordable housing. They are merely making it easier for private builders to reap even more profit at house buyers expense. Expect an increase in shoddy housing , on dodgy new build estates , prone to severe flooding. I hate to say it but you make perfect sense . We can look forward to plenty of jerry built houses built on flood plains. The builders will throw in a few ‘ social housing’ projects plus some ‘ affordable houses ‘ for the ones who might get a mortgage . It might provide some employment for the dinghy dodgers too.
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Post by piglet on Jul 10, 2024 9:41:15 GMT
Can it be true that all governments allow unfettered immigration with no concept or caring on how it affects those that are already here? Us.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 10, 2024 9:50:09 GMT
Can it be true that all governments allow unfettered immigration with no concept or caring on how it affects those that are already here? Us. No point asking Starmer anything, at the moment he's in Utopia, too busy flexing his muscles because it's been his lifelong ambition to be Prime Minister, fuck knows when he'll come down to Earth, probably with a thud when the shit hits the fan.
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Post by aristaeus on Jul 11, 2024 7:21:06 GMT
Of course immigrants would be eligible for social housing According to Shelter, there are c300,000 homeless people in England right now. Where's their social housing? Fuck immigrants, and I mean that sincerely folks. They will also be eligble for social housing.
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Post by Bentley on Jul 11, 2024 12:32:53 GMT
According to Shelter, there are c300,000 homeless people in England right now. Where's their social housing? Fuck immigrants, and I mean that sincerely folks. They will also be eligble for social housing. Competing for social housing.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 13, 2024 9:10:55 GMT
According to Shelter, there are c300,000 homeless people in England right now. Where's their social housing? Fuck immigrants, and I mean that sincerely folks. They will also be eligble for social housing According to Shelter there are 300,000 homeless/rough sleepers in England. My advice to them is throw your passport away and pretend to be a refugee, it works for hundreds of thousands of foreigners.
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 13, 2024 10:36:57 GMT
They will also be eligble for social housing According to Shelter there are 300,000 homeless/rough sleepers in England. My advice to them is throw your passport away and pretend to be a refugee, it works for hundreds of thousands of foreigners. Is there any other country in the world that treats illegal immigrants better than their own citizens?
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Post by thomas on Jul 13, 2024 10:48:56 GMT
According to Shelter there are 300,000 homeless/rough sleepers in England. My advice to them is throw your passport away and pretend to be a refugee, it works for hundreds of thousands of foreigners. Is there any other country in the world that treats illegal immigrants better than their own citizens? is it true labour are going to release offenders early as your prisons are overcrowded , while at the same time granting amnesty to asylum seekers as the great plan to clear the backlog of cases? Importing yet more criminals , when you can't deal with the existing bunch ? Looks like labour are going to have to go on a massive building spree , building more prisons and housing to cope. you will all be living like fucking battery hens before much longer. They are going to have to do a lot more than relax planning laws and hope private builders build a decent mix if so. As to your question above , very few countries operate benefits on the basis the uk does , in terms of dishing out freebies like a free health service housing and general benefits so the answer must surely be no? Didnt the million Syrians Merkel let into Germany as an example first have to be processed for asylum , then given ID cards to even access any German benefits , whereas in the uk , they appear to simply have to rock up on Hastings beach to access benefits ? Its an interesting question , and would be interesting to hear the answer?
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 13, 2024 10:52:05 GMT
They will also be eligble for social housing According to Shelter there are 300,000 homeless/rough sleepers in England. My advice to them is throw your passport away and pretend to be a refugee, it works for hundreds of thousands of foreigners. If someone within government with any balls and brains would send out a message LOUD and clear, 'Migrants will NOT be housed', we will set up Nightingale COVID style accommodation, take it or leave it, the Nightingales temp hospitals were set up in NINE DAYS, provide shelter, bed, food, drinks, and that's your lot.
It's no brainer.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 13, 2024 10:53:06 GMT
According to Shelter there are 300,000 homeless/rough sleepers in England. My advice to them is throw your passport away and pretend to be a refugee, it works for hundreds of thousands of foreigners. Is there any other country in the world that treats illegal immigrants better than their own citizens? It's disgraceful. And with this lot in charge, white English homeless/rough sleepers will get pushed further and further to the back of the queue. I cant believe immigrant loving Yvette Cooper is the British Home Secretary. It's embarrassing. Christ if that's the best Labour can do, then this government has had it. Just look at her, talk about gormless...
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Post by andrewbrown on Jul 13, 2024 10:59:29 GMT
is it true labour are going to release offenders early as your prisons are overcrowded , while at the same time granting amnesty to asylum seekers as the great plan to clear the backlog of cases? Importing yet more criminals , when you can't deal with the existing bunch ? Yes. Isn't that what the Tories have just done too? Doesn't seen to be a lot of difference between them.
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 13, 2024 11:07:20 GMT
Is there any other country in the world that treats illegal immigrants better than their own citizens? It's disgraceful. And with this lot in charge, white English homeless/rough sleepers will get pushed further and further to the back of the queue. Unfortunately I think you are correct. We have ended up in a situation where migrants who have been granted asylum in other European countries decide to push on and come here illegally simply because the level of handouts is better. A situation I dont see getting any better.
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