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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 8, 2024 16:56:15 GMT
Why? This time last year they never had that extra 2p in the pound in their pockets. It is not NI that is impoverishing people. It is a utilities and housing sector run by profiteering greedy bastards. All The Best Taxation levels are within the immediate control of a government thus take home pay can be increased/decreased with immediate effect ( subj to civil service inefficiency)with the populace less impoverished by dint of being ''allowed'' to keep more of their own earned money in their pockets. Retail/utility pricing is not within the immediate control of a government.Yes it is. 1) Price Cap. 2) Renationalise Essential Utilities. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 8, 2024 16:58:11 GMT
I promise you. I am among the poorest. That 2p made no difference to me at all. Profiteering energy companies make a huge difference to me. All The Best I tell you a other industry profiteering the supermarket.
Since Covid when prices went sky high they have never come back down, Covid is all but over, and the Ukraine war and other world wide events aren't impacting that much, yet the supermarkets are making offensive profits in a cost of living crisis, the last government did fuck all about these cosy cartels profiteering in a cost of living crisis, let's hope the 'party of the poor' does better.
Of course what you are really saying is that Capitalist Greed is the problem, but won't take the next logical step to a genuine solution. All The Best |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 8, 2024 17:01:25 GMT
I tell you a other industry profiteering the supermarket.
Since Covid when prices went sky high they have never come back down, Covid is all but over, and the Ukraine war and other world wide events aren't impacting that much, yet the supermarkets are making offensive profits in a cost of living crisis, the last government did fuck all about these cosy cartels profiteering in a cost of living crisis, let's hope the 'party of the poor' does better.
Of course what you are really saying is that Capitalist Greed is the problem, but won't take the next logical step to a genuine solution. All The Best By all means call it what you like ... but it still boils down to ripping off people in a cost of living crisis, and to me that's immoral. |
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Post by wassock on Jul 11, 2024 20:52:50 GMT
Blair has always been way more right wing than left, so this is hardly surprising. All The Best In what way was Blair right wing? It is always interesting to find out what polices are deemed right and left. I think PFI was a John Major idea, Blair implemented it. |
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Post by vlk on Jul 12, 2024 18:43:12 GMT
From now on theres going to be firstably PM Starmer, then whoever the Tories pick as their new leader is the official leader of the opposition and last but not least there's Farage whom many regard as the real opposition-leader.
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 12, 2024 19:07:00 GMT
In what way was Blair right wing? It is always interesting to find out what polices are deemed right and left. I think PFI was a John Major idea, Blair implemented it. I can't recall specifics. But I plotted New Labour's policies on PoliticalCompass at least three times during their tenure and they were always right of centre. All The Best |
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Post by sandypine on Jul 12, 2024 20:08:06 GMT
In what way was Blair right wing? It is always interesting to find out what polices are deemed right and left. I think PFI was a John Major idea, Blair implemented it. Is PFI right wing, it is a sneaky trick to get what you want now and pass the cost down the line when used too much. It may have had a use used in small doses and strictly controlled but it was not. |
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Post by sandypine on Jul 12, 2024 20:14:25 GMT
I think PFI was a John Major idea, Blair implemented it. I can't recall specifics. But I plotted New Labour's policies on PoliticalCompass at least three times during their tenure and they were always right of centre. All The Best NewLabour were in thrall to the EU and it was the FOM from the Eastern bloc countries that really hit the electorate's support for the EU. Is membership of the EU R or L. It feels now it should be LW yet that flies in the face of how most people originally viewed it. The left seem to love it, is it the new Comintern? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 12, 2024 20:47:49 GMT
Taxation levels are within the immediate control of a government thus take home pay can be increased/decreased with immediate effect ( subj to civil service inefficiency)with the populace less impoverished by dint of being ''allowed'' to keep more of their own earned money in their pockets. Retail/utility pricing is not within the immediate control of a government.Yes it is. 1) Price Cap. 2) Renationalise Essential Utilities. All The Best Nope. You can't force a company to sell a product or service for less than it costs to provide. Same with nationalised industries. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 12, 2024 21:13:16 GMT
Yes it is. 1) Price Cap. 2) Renationalise Essential Utilities. All The Best Nope. You can't force a company to sell a product or service for less than it costs to provide. Same with nationalised industries. Not sure that is true - in France Macron forced EDF to provide power at below cost when the Ukraine crisis blew up. Of course EDF were almost bankrupted and needed a Billion dollar bailout by the taxpayer.. |
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Post by vlk on Jul 12, 2024 21:25:26 GMT
If the Tories pick Suella Braverman or Priti Patel as their next leader it means they have learned nothing and deserve to lose again.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 12, 2024 22:14:06 GMT
Nope. You can't force a company to sell a product or service for less than it costs to provide. Same with nationalised industries. Not sure that is true - in France Macron forced EDF to provide power at below cost when the Ukraine crisis blew up. Of course EDF were almost bankrupted and needed a Billion dollar bailout by the taxpayer.. Yes, I should have added: Not without massive taxpayer subsidies. Which amounts to the same thing: Either way, you're going to pay. |
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Post by vlk on Jul 12, 2024 23:31:17 GMT
So, do you think that the 45 years of uninterrupted Tory-rule still continues? Many lefties really say so. Well it clearly does. Starmer has no intention of changing any of the Tories' tax policies. An immediate vote winner would be to increase NI by 2% (restoring it to pre-unfunded-cuts level) and declare that is would ring-fenced for the NHS. All The Best You seem to be like somebody who bangs his head against the wall long enough hoping that eventually the wall breaks down. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 13, 2024 7:25:59 GMT
Quite...
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 13, 2024 7:55:59 GMT
Yes it is. 1) Price Cap. 2) Renationalise Essential Utilities. All The Best Nope. You can't force a company to sell a product or service for less than it costs to provide. Same with nationalised industries. Define "cost to provide". Non essential and not earned share dividends should not be in that. Debt repayments for loans taken to support shareholder dividends should not be in that. Debt repayments for loans taken out for non-core investment should not be in that. All The Best |
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