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Post by bancroft on Jul 7, 2024 19:46:49 GMT
Blair is like Stalinism he is into totalitarianism as long as he can his property deals to enrich his family like Napoleon in Animal Farm.
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Post by vlk on Jul 7, 2024 21:13:36 GMT
It would be interesting to know what the outcome would have been if the UK had the French system where there are run-offs in constituencies where nobody gets over 50%.
Doubtless Labour would have won even under that system but with a significantly reduced majority.
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Post by sandypine on Jul 7, 2024 21:39:38 GMT
Blair's idea is to have digital ID cards, yawn didn't they try this during the lockdowns some are equating this to Stalinism. Blair has always been way more right wing than left, so this is hardly surprising. All The Best In what way was Blair right wing? It is always interesting to find out what polices are deemed right and left.
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 8, 2024 7:41:01 GMT
Blair has always been way more right wing than left, so this is hardly surprising. All The Best LOL! Blair's policy set plotted on PoliticalCompass, was right-wing. All The Best
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 8, 2024 7:43:39 GMT
Blair has always been way more right wing than left, so this is hardly surprising. All The Best So, do you think that the 45 years of uninterrupted Tory-rule still continues? Many lefties really say so. Well it clearly does. Starmer has no intention of changing any of the Tories' tax policies. An immediate vote winner would be to increase NI by 2% (restoring it to pre-unfunded-cuts level) and declare that is would ring-fenced for the NHS. All The Best
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Post by sheepy on Jul 8, 2024 7:51:45 GMT
So, do you think that the 45 years of uninterrupted Tory-rule still continues? Many lefties really say so. Well it clearly does. Starmer has no intention of changing any of the Tories' tax policies. An immediate vote winner would be to increase NI by 2% (restoring it to pre-unfunded-cuts level) and declare that is would ring-fenced for the NHS. All The Best In the middle of a cost-of-living crisis, people struggling with mortgage and rent payments bills coming out of their ears, it would go down like a lead balloon.
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Post by Totheleft on Jul 8, 2024 7:58:02 GMT
Well it clearly does. Starmer has no intention of changing any of the Tories' tax policies. An immediate vote winner would be to increase NI by 2% (restoring it to pre-unfunded-cuts level) and declare that is would ring-fenced for the NHS. All The Best In the middle of a cost-of-living crisis, people struggling with mortgage and rent payments bills coming out of their ears, it would go down like a lead balloon. The far left don't care if there policies hit the poorest
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Post by sheepy on Jul 8, 2024 8:02:23 GMT
In the middle of a cost-of-living crisis, people struggling with mortgage and rent payments bills coming out of their ears, it would go down like a lead balloon. The far left don't care if there policies hit the poorest I really don't care what anyone's perceived politics are, never have, but it was badly thought out at a time when people are struggling enough as it is and fairly obviously have a complete disconnect from two party being the same party politics.
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 8, 2024 15:30:04 GMT
Well it clearly does. Starmer has no intention of changing any of the Tories' tax policies. An immediate vote winner would be to increase NI by 2% (restoring it to pre-unfunded-cuts level) and declare that is would ring-fenced for the NHS. All The Best In the middle of a cost-of-living crisis, people struggling with mortgage and rent payments bills coming out of their ears, it would go down like a lead balloon. Why? This time last year they never had that extra 2p in the pound in their pockets. It is not NI that is impoverishing people. It is a utilities and housing sector run by profiteering greedy bastards. All The Best
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 8, 2024 15:31:31 GMT
In the middle of a cost-of-living crisis, people struggling with mortgage and rent payments bills coming out of their ears, it would go down like a lead balloon. The far left don't care if there policies hit the poorest I promise you. I am among the poorest. That 2p made no difference to me at all. Profiteering energy companies make a huge difference to me. All The Best
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 8, 2024 15:47:50 GMT
The far left don't care if there policies hit the poorest I promise you. I am among the poorest. That 2p made no difference to me at all. Profiteering energy companies make a huge difference to me. All The Best I tell you a other industry profiteering the supermarket.
Since Covid when prices went sky high they have never come back down, Covid is all but over, and the Ukraine war and other world wide events aren't impacting that much, yet the supermarkets are making offensive profits in a cost of living crisis, the last government did fuck all about these cosy cartels profiteering in a cost of living crisis, let's hope the 'party of the poor' does better.
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Post by ratcliff on Jul 8, 2024 15:53:40 GMT
In the middle of a cost-of-living crisis, people struggling with mortgage and rent payments bills coming out of their ears, it would go down like a lead balloon. Why? This time last year they never had that extra 2p in the pound in their pockets. It is not NI that is impoverishing people. It is a utilities and housing sector run by profiteering greedy bastards. All The Best Taxation levels are within the immediate control of a government thus take home pay can be increased/decreased with immediate effect ( subj to civil service inefficiency)with the populace less impoverished by dint of being ''allowed'' to keep more of their own earned money in their pockets. Retail/utility pricing is not within the immediate control of a government.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 8, 2024 15:58:16 GMT
Why? This time last year they never had that extra 2p in the pound in their pockets. It is not NI that is impoverishing people. It is a utilities and housing sector run by profiteering greedy bastards. All The Best Taxation levels are within the immediate control of a government thus take home pay can be increased/decreased with immediate effect ( subj to civil service inefficiency)with the populace less impoverished by dint of being ''allowed'' to keep more of their own earned money in their pockets. Retail/utility pricing is not within the immediate control of a government. Agree, but energy prices help dictate inflation rates, and due to the high costs of food and energy bills it's driven up inflation hence interest rate rises on mortgage payers, now if this government means business it should start tackling these two key players, the energy and food industry they are pivotal on keeping inflation under control.
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Post by thomas on Jul 8, 2024 16:04:16 GMT
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Post by thomas on Jul 8, 2024 16:12:41 GMT
Doubtless Labour would have won even under that system but with a significantly reduced majority. I dont think anyone disagrees with the fact labour should have got a third of seats to mirror a third of votes. getting two thirds on a third is an embarrassment of epic proportions , and makes the uk look like a banana republic. It's not just us Scottish calling starmer a dictator. Many across the uk , including among the chattering classes ,are saying he has no mandate to govern. political wisdom in my lifetime has always said that labour win ten points less on the day than they poll beforehand . That has proved once again to be the case. A third of the vote , the lowest of any government since universal suffrage , on the second lowest turnout , against an abysmal tory party in England , and snp in scotland , is a disastrous result . Watch as he tries to push through policy how the clamour grows against his undemocratic rule. ‘Disproportionate’ UK election results boost calls to ditch first past the post Campaigners for electoral reform say outcome has renewed pressure for proportional representation
The push for electoral reform in the UK has received a shot in the arm after the “most disproportionate election in history”, according to campaigners and academics. Longstanding reform campaigners have become uneasy bedfellows with Reform UK’s Nigel Farage in recent days after Labour secured a 174-seat majority with just 34% of the popular vote. “This election has thrown the spotlight on to the electoral system as the result was the most disproportional on record,” said Darren Hughes, the chief executive of the Electoral Reform Society. “We have already had a growing chorus of calls for PR [proportional representation] in the aftermath.” Farage said the first-past-the-post (FPTP) electoral system was “unfair” after Reform took 14.3% of the popular vote – making it the third biggest party by vote share – but won only five seats. The Green party received 6.8% of the vote for its four seats. “I think these results will reinforce in people’s minds the need for reform,” Farage said. Some experts argue that PR has produced more social democratic politics in Wales and Scotland, but others say it could also be a pathway for extremist politics, as has happened in some places in Europe
www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/08/disproportionate-uk-election-results-boost-calls-to-ditch-first-past-the-post
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