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Post by jonksy on Oct 17, 2022 21:57:57 GMT
What does she mean: "No passports to visit England"? That's not within her gift. And if you're a Jock working in England...? Well, good luck with that. She hasn't got a fucking clue has she? |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 17, 2022 22:10:20 GMT
What does she mean: "No passports to visit England"? That's not within her gift. And if you're a Jock working in England...? Well, good luck with that. I assume she thinks that Scotland will still be part of the CTA - but as the CTA is an agreement between the UK and Eire it remains to be seen if Scotland would be allowed in - as you say, a not a decision for Scotland. |
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Post by thomas on Oct 18, 2022 6:51:22 GMT
What does she mean: "No passports to visit England"? That's not within her gift. And if you're a Jock working in England...? Well, good luck with that. I assume she thinks that Scotland will still be part of the CTA - but as the CTA is an agreement between the UK and Eire it remains to be seen if Scotland would be allowed in - as you say, a not a decision for Scotland. Does anyone actually care? One 100 mile border closes , 27 others open? This has been polled on before , and the answer from scotland was emphatic.....
According to our recent Panelbase poll, it turns out that a hard border at Berwick and Gretna is a price that Scottish voters are – by a margin of more than two to one – willing to pay to stay in the EU.
Now , if my history serves me correct , after having fought a war of independence with England ( hiding under the name Britian) , going through a trade war that lasted decades , the westmisnter parliament were the ones who begged the irish to join a common travel area so the delusionalists in your parliament could still go around kidding on the irish were citizens of the empire. I dont doubt scotland will be offered the same but if not , you will have to try much harder to get scotland to stay than throwing a temper tantrum and threatening hard borders that no one gives a flying fuck about.
The main interest if the EU border mate.
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Post by thomas on Oct 18, 2022 6:58:42 GMT
.....you like to clutch at straws? Aye we know that.
The point though pacifico...........the point.....
Renationalising Britain’s railways – EU law not a barrier
I know you are Scottish but I speak English so I shall repeat (yet again) what I said 3 days ago.. "there is nothing stopping you having a nationalised rail company - but what you cannot do is fail to allow competition"
Wittering mindlessly on about what you reckon the euro is does not change that basic fact. See my O/P on page 2 of this thread pacifico.
I deal with vinnys "insinuation " in depth.
Let me repeat for you in my best written "english" so you can hopefully understand my foreign words.....
Renationalising Britain’s railways – EU law not a barrier
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 18, 2022 7:00:13 GMT
I assume she thinks that Scotland will still be part of the CTA - but as the CTA is an agreement between the UK and Eire it remains to be seen if Scotland would be allowed in - as you say, a not a decision for Scotland. Does anyone actually care? One 100 mile border closes , 27 others open? This has been polled on before , and the answer from scotland was emphatic.....
Well I personally dont care as I never go to Scotland. I cant see why there shouldn't be a hard border between Scotland and England if thats what Scotland wants - the impact on the UK would be trivial. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 18, 2022 7:02:08 GMT
I know you are Scottish but I speak English so I shall repeat (yet again) what I said 3 days ago.. "there is nothing stopping you having a nationalised rail company - but what you cannot do is fail to allow competition"
Wittering mindlessly on about what you reckon the euro is does not change that basic fact. See my O/P on page 2 of this thread pacifico.
I deal with vinnys "insinuation " in depth.
Let me repeat for you in my best written "english" so you can hopefully understand my foreign words.....
Renationalising Britain’s railways – EU law not a barrier
LOL - I am agreeing with you.. there is nothing stopping you having a nationalised rail company - but what you cannot do is fail to allow competition. |
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Post by thomas on Oct 18, 2022 7:08:07 GMT
Does anyone actually care? One 100 mile border closes , 27 others open? This has been polled on before , and the answer from scotland was emphatic.....
Well I personally dont care as I never go to Scotland. I cant see why there shouldn't be a hard border between Scotland and England if thats what Scotland wants - the impact on the UK would be trivial. Well why are you in this thread then if you dont care about scotland and the scottish political scene including indy? Jesus!
You consistently make in depth posts rubbishing everything you can get your hands on about scotland , then when shown to be talking guff as above...........you run off saying i dont care.
You arent looking very consistet on the matter pacifico.
No one gives a flying fack about a hard border , or a soft border , between scotland and england. There has been an official border there for 800 years , and a border within the vicinity for two thousand years. We are all used to it.
It might actually do northern england a favour and offer up the geordies and cumbrians some much needed employment. Thank us later pacifico.
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Post by thomas on Oct 18, 2022 7:10:26 GMT
See my O/P on page 2 of this thread pacifico.
I deal with vinnys "insinuation " in depth.
Let me repeat for you in my best written "english" so you can hopefully understand my foreign words.....
Renationalising Britain’s railways – EU law not a barrier
LOL - I am agreeing with you.. there is nothing stopping you having a nationalised rail company - but what you cannot do is fail to allow competition. so we go around in circles as pacifico is making a point no one is arguing with. We agree eu rules do not prohibit rail nationalisation ....which is my point to vinny. So why are you continuing to post as though i am arguing with you?
I tell you pacifico , i know you need something to fill your long weary days ,and take your mind off the shitshow politics in your country and the end of brexit , but honestly mate , you can do better than attacking arguments no one is making.
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 18, 2022 7:21:30 GMT
Well I personally dont care as I never go to Scotland. I cant see why there shouldn't be a hard border between Scotland and England if thats what Scotland wants - the impact on the UK would be trivial. Well why are you in this thread then if you dont care about scotland and the scottish political scene including indy? Jesus!
You consistently make in depth posts rubbishing everything you can get your hands on about scotland , then when shown to be talking guff as above...........you run off saying i dont care.
You arent looking very consistet on the matter pacifico.
No one gives a flying fack about a hard border , or a soft border , between scotland and england. There has been an official border there for 800 years , and a border within the vicinity for two thousand years. We are all used to it.
It might actually do northern england a favour and offer up the geordies and cumbrians some much needed employment. Thank us later pacifico.
It's a political discussion forum - where we discuss political issues from around the globe - whether they affect us or not.Try not to get so chippy if anyone might disagree with you from time to time. |
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Post by buccaneer on Oct 18, 2022 7:24:38 GMT
What does she mean: "No passports to visit England"? That's not within her gift. And if you're a Jock working in England...? Well, good luck with that. She hasn't got a fucking clue has she? She hasn't. In fact, the SNP have been in power for the last 14 years. An assessment by ThinkScotland found the SNP had an unparalleled level of failure in every policy area. thinkscotland.org/2021/04/snp-record-good-bad-report/Don't forget, this is the same woman who wanted to cut the bottom off classroom doors to ventilate and prevent the spread of COV-ID. Lol |
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Post by thomas on Oct 18, 2022 7:33:05 GMT
Well why are you in this thread then if you dont care about scotland and the scottish political scene including indy? Jesus!
You consistently make in depth posts rubbishing everything you can get your hands on about scotland , then when shown to be talking guff as above...........you run off saying i dont care.
You arent looking very consistet on the matter pacifico.
No one gives a flying fack about a hard border , or a soft border , between scotland and england. There has been an official border there for 800 years , and a border within the vicinity for two thousand years. We are all used to it.
It might actually do northern england a favour and offer up the geordies and cumbrians some much needed employment. Thank us later pacifico.
It's a political discussion forum - where we discuss political issues from around the globe - whether they affect us or not.Try not to get so chippy if anyone might disagree with you from time to time. Im happy for you to discuss a wide range of political topics , but cant help point out the abolute brain dead childish nonsense of telling someone who disagrees with you that "you dont care" while spending hours talking about politics in a certain country.
You look ridiculous pacifico.
Im happy you disagree with me. That what debate is all about. We dont want some ukip brexiter jerk circle and dads army post imperial delusional back slapping forum now do we?
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 18, 2022 7:53:24 GMT
It's a political discussion forum - where we discuss political issues from around the globe - whether they affect us or not.Try not to get so chippy if anyone might disagree with you from time to time. Im happy for you to discuss a wide range of political topics , but cant help point out the abolute brain dead childish nonsense of telling someone who disagrees with you that "you dont care" while spending hours talking about politics in a certain country.
You look ridiculous pacifico.
Im happy you disagree with me. That what debate is all about. We dont want some ukip brexiter jerk circle and dads army post imperial delusional back slapping forum now do we?
LOL - calm down. I'm sorry if my disagreeing with you gets you upset - but that is a function of taking part in a discussion forum. Taking my points out of context will do nothing to lower your blood pressure. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 18, 2022 8:30:42 GMT
That's more like it, good healthy disagreements
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 18, 2022 8:38:12 GMT
Sturgeon must be held to account on every issue she tries to justify independence.
The people of Scotland must be 100% assured that what she is peddling for independence is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
I think we can safely say we already know of two porkies.
1. What currency will Scotland use (she hasn't a clue) one of the major factors in becoming independent.
2. Borders, she's speculating what the UK government will agree to, they haven't agreed to any such thing as no passports, work visas, and so on, most of the Major banks have all but said they'll be moving to the UK if Scotland becomes independent, they want to deal in GBP, they can't wait until Sturgeon decides which currency to use, and if she'll be allowed to use it, the banks are already jittery.
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Post by jaydee on Oct 18, 2022 9:36:37 GMT
Sturgeon must be held to account on every issue she tries to justify independence. The people of Scotland must be 100% assured that what she is peddling for independence is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I think we can safely say we already know of two porkies. 1. What currency will Scotland use (she hasn't a clue) one of the major factors in becoming independent. 2. Borders, she's speculating what the UK government will agree to, they haven't agreed to any such thing as no passports, work visas, and so on, most of the Major banks have all but said they'll be moving to the UK if Scotland becomes independent, they want to deal in GBP, they can't wait until Sturgeon decides which currency to use, and if she'll be allowed to use it, the banks are already jittery. My My My. The people of Scotland are well aware the First Minister is is peddling for independence. As bankrupt England and Westminster is peddling to stop it. Has it just dawned on you Who is the WE in all this that can safely say the FM has told two porkies. What you mean is YOU. I am sure the entire forum is glad you speak for them. So perhaps YOU could point out the two porkies. Would you like many porkies from Bojoke and Truss. In terms of currency. You do understand that a Scottish central bank is now up and running. You have been told this several times by me. Yet you still come away with the same havering and slasering drivel. You do understand England does not have a central bank. The UK does. Even that is a misnomer. The BofE is a regulatory authority acting as LOLR for UK banks. And even that is a misnomer as government do not have money. The LOLR is the UK tax payer. Thats me. That's you. And the BofE only holds some £200 billion in gold reserves. Some 10% of that Scottish. That would not even cover bankrupts England's local authority debt on PFI alone. As the English cannot live within their means. Not to mention. That is only as good as the last crash. And you and I are still paying for the last one..... Up and coming, Covid and Brexit not included. About to prevail. You tell me what it is going to cost. You are the self appointed expert on prediction The currency that will be used is the Scottish pound. And known for several years. What you mean is You do not know. You make that very clear, every time you post on here. And who is going to stop the Scots using it. In terms of borders. For ever the First Minister has made it clear that there will be a border for goods, if Scotland re-joins the EU. . That is down to the English for voting to control their own border, and make themselves poorer. The only nation ever in the history of the world to do so. . Not the First Minister. Why do silly Englishmen keep blaming everybody else for something they created. You created the border. She has also made it clear that there will be no border coming into Scotland from England. Now if silly Englishmen want to put machine gun post up as your idiotic remarks suggest. That is a matter for silly Englishmen. You tell me.. Then perhaps you can tell me. What has banks to do with this. I await with bated breath on no answer. By the way.. As devolution and the Scottish Government does not cost the English taxpayer one penny. Can you tell me. Why do you hate the First Minister, and the Scots. But root forout and out clueless fascists clowns in Westminster. Costing you a fortune. The perhaps could you give me one economic benefit that energy rich Scotland would gain. Staying tied to bankrupt England. Very simple questions. |
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