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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 18, 2022 9:40:56 GMT
I wondered when you'd trot in lol ^^
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 18, 2022 9:49:58 GMT
Sturgeon must be held to account on every issue she tries to justify independence. The people of Scotland must be 100% assured that what she is peddling for independence is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I think we can safely say we already know of two porkies. 1. What currency will Scotland use (she hasn't a clue) one of the major factors in becoming independent. 2. Borders, she's speculating what the UK government will agree to, they haven't agreed to any such thing as no passports, work visas, and so on, most of the Major banks have all but said they'll be moving to the UK if Scotland becomes independent, they want to deal in GBP, they can't wait until Sturgeon decides which currency to use, and if she'll be allowed to use it, the banks are already jittery. My My My. The people of Scotland are well aware the First Minister is is peddling for independence. As bankrupt England is peddling to stop it. Has it just dawned on you Who is the WE in all this that can safely say the FM has told two porkies. What you mean is YOU. I am sure the entire forum is glad you speak for them. So perhaps YOU could point out the two porkies. Would you like many from Bojoke and Truss. In terms of currency. You do understand that a Scottish central bank is now up and running. You have been told this several times by me. . Yet you still come away with the same havering and slasering drivel. You do understand England does not have a central bank. The UK does. Even that is a misnomer. The BofE is a regulatory authority acting as LOLR for UK banks. And even that is a misnomer as government do not have money. The LOLR is the UK tax payer. Thats me. That's you. And the BofE only holds some £200 billion in gold reserves. Some 10% of that Scottish. That would not even cover bankrupts England's local authority debt on PFI alone. As the English cannot live within their means. Not to mention. That is only as good as the last crash. And you and I are still paying for that. Up and coming, Covid and Brexit not included. About to prevail. . The currency that will be used is the Scottish pound. And known for several years. What you mean is You do not know. You make that very clear, every time you post on here. And who is going to stop the Scots using it. In terms of borders. She has made it clear that there will be a border for goods. That is down to the English for voting to control their own border, and make themselves poorer. They only nation ever in the history of the world to do so. . Not the First Minister. Why do silly Englishmen keep blaming everybody else for something they created. She has also made it clear that there will be no border coming into Scotland from England. Now if silly Englishmen want to put machine gun post up as your idiotic remarks suggest. That is a matter for silly Englishmen. You tell me. You ae the expert. Then perhaps you can tell me. What has banks to do with this. I await with bated breath on no answer. By the way.. As devolution and the Scottish Government does not cost bankrupt England one penny. Can you tell Why do you hate the First Minister, and the Scots. But root for fascists clowns in Westminster. Costing you a fortune. The perhaps could you give me one economic benefit that energy rich Scotland would gain. Staying tied to bankrupt England. Very simple questions. I expect as in the past a insulting idiotic reply with not one answer. In short. Like many you are a statement maker. with absolutely nothing to say, but predicted bile. . 'She' Sturgeon can't make 'anything clear', she has to pass everything through central government before she can make it clear, she's not in the position to call the shots you fool.
She has to ask politely, and it's up to the UK government to agree or tell her to fuck right off. Get it?
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Post by jaydee on Oct 18, 2022 10:36:00 GMT
'She' Sturgeon can't make 'anything clear', she has to pass everything through central government before she can make it clear, she's not in the position to call the shots you fool.
She has to ask politely, and it's up to the UK government to agree or tell her to fuck right off. Get it?
So there you go. Not one answer. But the predicted insulting bile. So as answers to your previous bile is not forth is not forthcoming . Surprise surprise. What has she to pass through central government. What is not clear. That is to you. What has devolved matters to do with central government. What has she to ask politely for. So let me ask you again. She has stated Scotland will use the pound. A central bank is up and running. How do yuou work out she did not. Because you did not know. What two porkies did she tell. That is what you said. As you spectacularly fail to answer why you hate the First Minister and the Scots. . Or what benefit energy rich Scotland would gain remaining part of bankrupt England. Or how a border you voted for, is the fault of others. There will be no border on those coming from England into Scotland. That you will have created. Are silly Englishmen going to put up machine gun posts, on the other way about. . I await another insulting reply, with not one answer. What was that about fools.. Get it.
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 18, 2022 10:45:44 GMT
'She' Sturgeon can't make 'anything clear', she has to pass everything through central government before she can make it clear, she's not in the position to call the shots you fool.
She has to ask politely, and it's up to the UK government to agree or tell her to fuck right off. Get it?
So there you go. Not one answer. But the predicted insulting bile. So as answers to your previous bile is not forth is not forthcoming . Surprise surprise. What has she to pass through central government. What is not clear. That is to you. What has devolved matters to do with central government. What has she to ask politely for. So let me ask you again. She has stated Scotland will use the pound. A central bank is up and running. How do yuou work out she did not. Because you did not know. What two porkies did she tell. That is what you said. As you spectacularly fail to answer why you hate the First Minister and the Scots. . Or what benefit energy rich Scotland would gain remaining part of bankrupt England. Or how a border you voted for, is the fault of others. There will be no border on those coming from England into Scotland. That you will have created. Are silly Englishmen going to put up machine gun posts, on the other way about. . I await another insulting reply, with not one answer. What was that about fools.. Get it. I can't understand why you keep making a fool of yourself.
She 'Sturgeon' says this, she says that.
What is it you don't understand?
She can't say anything, she can make a 'wish list' but that's all it is, and that is what she is putting to the people of Scotland, her very own wish list.
The people of Scotland don't want to hear about wish lists, they want to hear FACTS, something Sturgeon is grossly lacking.
Sturgeon has to get her wish list passed through central government FIRST, then she has to deal with the Scottish Parliament agreeing, then she has the task of convincing banks, financial institutions, big businesses, small businesses what her economic plan and long term policies are.
She can't make it up as she goes along.
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Post by jaydee on Oct 18, 2022 11:47:12 GMT
I can't understand why you keep making a fool of yourself.
She 'Sturgeon' says this, she says that.
What is it you don't understand?
She can't say anything, she can make a 'wish list' but that's all it is, and that is what she is putting to the people of Scotland, her very own wish list.
The people of Scotland don't want to hear about wish lists, they want to hear FACTS, something Sturgeon is grossly lacking.
Sturgeon has to get her wish list passed through central government FIRST, then she has to deal with the Scottish Parliament agreeing, then she has the task of convincing banks, financial institutions, big businesses, small businesses what her economic plan and long term policies are.
She can't make it up as she goes along.
Says the angry Englishman he does exactly that on every time he posts on here. 1. Fairsociety says. " She 'Sturgeon' says this, she says that." So perhaps you can elucidate and answer that idiotic statement. What does she say this and say that. 2 Fairsociety says. " What is it you don't understand?", To be nice. Your total clueless havering slastering drivel. And the bile you pass of as some sort of answer. 3. Fairsoicety says " She can't say anything, she can make a 'wish list' but that's all it is, and that is what she is putting to the people of Scotland, her very own wish list." What can she not say and what wish arde your rnating about 4. Fair society Says " The people of Scotland don't want to hear about wish lists, they want to hear FACTS, something Sturgeon is grossly lacking" What fact are you The one like currency that you did not know.Get this into your swede. At one .....political level or another. Around 100% of Scottish voters voted SNP. Not all clearly. That being either local, national or scottish elections. What do you not understand. As you rant for thje peop[le of Scotland 5 Fairsociety says " Sturgeon has to get her wish list passed through central government FIRST, then she has to deal with the Scottish Parliament agreeing, then she has the task of convincing banks, financial institutions, big businesses, small ..... .....businesses what her economic plan and long term policies are." The First minister has given them exactly that and what wish are you ranting about. What you mean is you do not have a clue. Scotland is the only UK nation to have exported more goods internationally than it has imported every year since records began. ... In terms of exports per head, Scotland outperforms the UK: Scotland exports £17,455 per head per year, while England exports £8,626 per head per year. Scotland is an exporting powerhouse, whose success has had nothing to do with being part of the UK, but whose future has been jeopardised due to the UK leading taking Scotland out of the European Union. Scotland also outperforms all the other UK nations in terms of international exports. Scotland is the only UK nation to have exported more goods internationally than it has imported every year since records began. In contrast, England’s international trade deficit in goods is massive. The source Fraser of Allander institute. And the laughable bit.. . On its own whisky contributes £37 a second to the Uk treasury. Not including oil and gas, Scotland sold £86.4 billion in goods and services to England. England sold £93.4 billions in goods and services to Scotland. Scotland in terms of countries is England's largest trading partner with exports to Scotland greater than to Brazil, South Africa, Russia,. India, China and Japan put together. The jock haters are suggesting that some future arsehole English chancellor is going to put millions on the dole in England and destroy £180 billion worth of trade between the 2 nations, as they rant Scotland wants to leave England. . Or think some future chancellors are as stupid as them. There will be a hard border when the UK split up and yes there will be tariffs. Not because of Scotland. Because England voted to make itself poorer. Swallowing the lying fanny spewed by Farage and Johnston. As they now see what they voted for. I think by now even the village idiots in the real world have now concluded England is not going to benefit the sunny uplands with the easiest deal in history and have your cake and eat it. Would you care to correct any of that.You have already been told this and still come away with the same rubbish So let me ask you for the third time. The First minister has stated Scotland will use the pound. A central bank is up and running. For several years. How do you work out she did not. Because you did not know. What two porkies did she tell. That is what you said. As you spectacularly fail to answer why you hate the First Minister and the Scots. . Or what benefit energy rich Scotland would gain remaining part of bankrupt England. Or how a border you voted for, is the fault of others. There will be no border on those coming from England into Scotland. That you will have created. Are silly Englishmen going to put up machine gun posts, on the other way about. . I await another insulting reply, with not one answer. What was that about fools.. Now to add to that. Can you tell me what the First minister made up as she went along. That is what you said.. What was that about making a total clown and prat of yourself. Then try and be a smart arse with insulting replies. You keep making lovely landings matey. But all at the wrong airport. Not to mention Scotland has the largest inward investment in Europe. So much for you drivel about business. Could I suggest you actually do a wee research first. Instead of as I make clear, swallowing utter fanny hook line and sinker, making a total idiot of yourself. On top of which Scotland can power itself on energy with wind alone twice over. That would be 90% cheaper for business on a indy Scotland. Now would you care to correct that. Instead of ranting utter clueless bile. . What was that about making a fool of yourself. You got the first bit correct. You do not understand. It went pear shape from there. Who do you think you are trying to kid www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-61595697
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Post by jonksy on Oct 18, 2022 12:02:36 GMT
She can't even sort out her own constituency of Glasgow Southside, let alone run an independant Scotland.......I was born in the United Kingdom. Who is she to think she has any right to stop me travelling to any corner of the place that I was born?.......This just gets funnier by the day.the snp say they will set up a central bank whilst not issuing anymore oil drilling licences which means they will be phasing out a 3 billion pounds a year industry that employs close to 20 thousand people.the services industry has also said it will leave Scotland so if they did create their own currency it will be worthless.p.s they couldn't even build a boat Nicola Sturgeon's plans for a 'hard' border with England are branded a 'smugglers' charter' amid fears they will cause huge disruption and put jobs at risk Nicola Sturgeon's proposals for a 'hard border' branded a 'smugglers' charter' Scottish First Minister admitted the need for post-independence trade checks Critics claim plans will 'divide communities', cost businesses and put jobs at risk www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11327195/Nicola-Sturgeons-plans-hard-border-England-branded-smugglers-charter.html
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 18, 2022 12:31:01 GMT
jaydee you keep quoting ... "she says she's going to use the pound".... "she says there will be hard borders".
'she' can't say fuck all.
She can put together a wish list of what her and the SNP want, but what they want and what they get are two completely different things.
STOP saying ... "she says"
I just hope the rest of the people in Scotland aren't as gullible as you, or rather Sturgeon will be hoping they are all as gullible as you.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 18, 2022 13:37:24 GMT
jaydee you keep quoting ... "she says she's going to use the pound".... "she says there will be hard borders". 'she' can't say fuck all. She can put together a wish list of what her and the SNP want, but what they want and what they get are two completely different things. STOP saying ... "she says" I just hope the rest of the people in Scotland aren't as gullible as you, or rather Sturgeon will be hoping they are all as gullible as you. I wonder if jaydee usues his free laptop to post....Oh wait a minute that was another sturgeon lie.
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 18, 2022 13:43:05 GMT
jaydee you keep quoting ... "she says she's going to use the pound".... "she says there will be hard borders". 'she' can't say fuck all. She can put together a wish list of what her and the SNP want, but what they want and what they get are two completely different things. STOP saying ... "she says" I just hope the rest of the people in Scotland aren't as gullible as you, or rather Sturgeon will be hoping they are all as gullible as you. I wonder if jaydee usues his free laptop to post....Oh wait a minute that was another sturgeon lie. lol jaydee shouldn't be allowed near a laptop, unless supervised by a responsible adult.
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Post by jaydee on Oct 20, 2022 10:36:04 GMT
jaydee you keep quoting ... "she says she's going to use the pound".... "she says there will be hard borders". 'she' can't say fuck all. She can put together a wish list of what her and the SNP want, but what they want and what they get are two completely different things. STOP saying ... "she says" I just hope the rest of the people in Scotland aren't as gullible as you, or rather Sturgeon will be hoping they are all as gullible as you. No matey I am answering your garbage. So let me ask you again. The questions are in big grown up writing and in italics. You seem to have a problem in answering questions. Second time I have asked. 1. Fairsociety says. "She 'Sturgeon' says this, she says that." So perhaps you can elucidate and answer that idiotic statement. What does she say this and say that. 2 Fairsociety says. "What is it you don't understand?", To be nice. Your total clueless havering slastering drivel. And the bile you pass of as some sort of answer.
3. Fairsoicety says "She can't say anything, she can make a 'wish list' but that's all it is, and that is what she is putting to the people of Scotland, her very own wish list." What can she not say and what wish are your rnating about
4. Fair society Says "The people of Scotland don't want to hear about wish lists, they want to hear FACTS, something Sturgeon is grossly lacking" What fact are you on about The one like currency that you did not know.Get this into your swede. At one .....political level or another. Around 100% of Scottish voters voted SNP. Not all clearly. That being either local, national or scottish elections. What do you not understand. As you rant for thje peop[le of Scotland
Then the cracker. 5 Fairsociety says "Sturgeon has to get her wish list passed through central government FIRST, then she has to deal with the Scottish Parliament agreeing, then she has the task of convincing banks, financial institutions, big businesses, small ..... .....businesses what her economic plan and long term policies are." So let me repeat my answer. I would normally just do a link. But when you deal with clueless stupidity. It has to be pointed out. Not including oil and gas, Scotland sold £86.4 billion in goods and services to England. England sold £93.4 billions in goods and services to Scotland. Scotland in terms of countries is England's largest trading partner with exports to Scotland greater than to Brazil, South Africa, Russia,. India, China and Japan put together. The jock haters are suggesting that some future arsehole English chancellor is going to put millions on the dole in England and destroy £180 billion worth of trade between the 2 nations, as they rant Scotland wants to leave England. . Or think some future chancellors are as stupid as them. There will be a hard border when the UK split up and yes there will be tariffs. Not because of Scotland. Because England voted to make itself poorer. Swallowing the lying fanny spewed by Farage and Johnston. As they now see what they voted for. I think by now even the village idiots in the real world have now concluded England is not going to benefit the sunny uplands with the easiest deal in history and have your cake and eat it. Would you care to correct any of that.You have already been told this and still come away with the same rubbish So let me ask you for the third time. The First minister has stated Scotland will use the pound. A central bank is up and running. For several years. How do you work out she did not. Because you did not know. What two porkies did she tell. That is what you said. As you spectacularly fail to answer why you hate the First Minister and the Scots. . Or what benefit energy rich Scotland would gain remaining part of bankrupt England. Or how a border you voted for, is the fault of others. There will be no border on those coming from England into Scotland. That you will have created. Are silly Englishmen going to put up machine gun posts, on the other way about. . I await another insulting reply, with not one answer. What was that about fools.. Now to add to that. Can you tell me what the First minister made up as she went along. That is what you said.. What was that about making a total clown and prat of yourself. Then try and be a smart arse with insulting replies. You keep making lovely landings matey. But all at the wrong airport. Not to mention Scotland has the largest inward investment in Europe. So much for you drivel about business. Could I suggest you actually do a wee research first. Instead of as I make clear, swallowing utter fanny hook line and sinker, making a total idiot of yourself. On top of which Scotland can power itself on energy with wind alone twice over. That would be 90% cheaper for business on a indy Scotland. Now would you care to correct that. Instead of ranting utter clueless bile. . What was that about making a fool of yourself. You got the first bit correct. You do not understand. It went pear shape from there. Who do you think you are trying to kid Are all silly Englishmen as clueless as you
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 20, 2022 10:38:56 GMT
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 20, 2022 10:41:21 GMT
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Post by jaydee on Oct 20, 2022 10:41:48 GMT
I wonder if jaydee usues his free laptop to post....Oh wait a minute that was another sturgeon lie. What is another sturgeon lie. So perhaps you could correct anything I said in the previous post.
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Post by jaydee on Oct 20, 2022 10:45:10 GMT
Ah Nigel. Doing his best to destroy discussion and crash every thread he goes onto. Followed by the trolling clowns who were responsible for the shutting down of the last forum. And I'm still waiting on you to explain how you work out a right wing neo Nazi is left wing
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Post by jaydee on Oct 20, 2022 10:47:17 GMT
Answer required or are you going to troll as well. 1. Fairsociety says. "She 'Sturgeon' says this, she says that." So perhaps you can elucidate and answer that idiotic statement. What does she say this and say that.2 Fairsociety says. "What is it you don't understand?", To be nice. Your total clueless havering slastering drivel. And the bile you pass of as some sort of answer.3. Fairsoicety says "She can't say anything, she can make a 'wish list' but that's all it is, and that is what she is putting to the people of Scotland, her very own wish list." What can she not say and what wish are your rnating about4. Fair society Says "The people of Scotland don't want to hear about wish lists, they want to hear FACTS, something Sturgeon is grossly lacking" What fact are you on about The one like currency that you did not know.Get this into your swede. At one .....political level or another. Around 100% of Scottish voters voted SNP. Not all clearly. That being either local, national or scottish elections. What do you not understand. As you rant for the people of ScotlandThen the cracker. 5 Fairsociety says "Sturgeon has to get her wish list passed through central government FIRST, then she has to deal with the Scottish Parliament agreeing, then she has the task of convincing banks, financial institutions, big businesses, small ..... .....businesses what her economic plan and long term policies are." So let me repeat my answer. I would normally just do a link. But when you deal with clueless stupidity. It has to be pointed out. Not including oil and gas, Scotland sold £86.4 billion in goods and services to England. England sold £93.4 billions in goods and services to Scotland. Scotland in terms of countries is England's largest trading partner with exports to Scotland greater than to Brazil, South Africa, Russia,. India, China and Japan put together. The jock haters are suggesting that some future arsehole English chancellor is going to put millions on the dole in England and destroy £180 billion worth of trade between the 2 nations, as they rant Scotland wants to leave England. . Or think some future chancellors are as stupid as them. There will be a hard border when the UK split up and yes there will be tariffs. Not because of Scotland. Because England voted to make itself poorer. Swallowing the lying fanny spewed by Farage and Johnston. As they now see what they voted for. I think by now even the village idiots in the real world have now concluded England is not going to benefit the sunny uplands with the easiest deal in history and have your cake and eat it. Would you care to correct any of that.You have already been told this and still come away with the same rubbish So let me ask you for the third time. The First minister has stated Scotland will use the pound. A central bank is up and running. For several years. How do you work out she did not. Because you did not know. What two porkies did she tell. That is what you said. As you spectacularly fail to answer why you hate the First Minister and the Scots. . Or what benefit energy rich Scotland would gain remaining part of bankrupt England. Or how a border you voted for, is the fault of others. There will be no border on those coming from England into Scotland. That you will have created. Are silly Englishmen going to put up machine gun posts, on the other way about. . I await another insulting reply, with not one answer. What was that about fools.. Now to add to that. Can you tell me what the First minister made up as she went along. That is what you said.. What was that about making a total clown and prat of yourself. Then try and be a smart arse with insulting replies. You keep making lovely landings matey. But all at the wrong airport. Not to mention Scotland has the largest inward investment in Europe. So much for you drivel about business. Could I suggest you actually do a wee research first. Instead of as I make clear, swallowing utter fanny hook line and sinker, making a total idiot of yourself. On top of which Scotland can power itself on energy with wind alone twice over. That would be 90% cheaper for business on a indy Scotland. Now would you care to correct that. Instead of ranting utter clueless bile. . What was that about making a fool of yourself. You got the first bit correct. You do not understand. It went pear shape from there. Who do you think you are trying to kid Are all silly Englishmen as clueless as you. Even when trolling. As the Pound and PM goes into freefall.
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