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Post by andrewbrown on Jul 2, 2024 10:33:58 GMT
I am a first generation immigrant, i dont have a celtic or anglo saxon gene in my body, and i have values that are not british, i am not patient or tolerant, like the british. I dont know what Lammy background is, but his attitude to life is of common record. Indeed, it is marked with intolerance and a blood lust. Not british is it? I will go further to say that Lammy has two possibilities, one that he is hate filled, two, he is border line, or is psychotic. Labour have kept him silent because they know he is a loose cannon. And this man seems to be set to be foreign secretary. Lammy was born in Holloway, apparently, i was born in Cambridge, technically we are both british. Would we rule as a briton would, with our genetic mnakeup and , probably more importantly, growing up in a different childhood culture. I grew up in an immigrant bubble, that of eastern europe and Italy, and as a child i admired the british for the qualities they had. I wanted to be one. I wanted to be patient, understanding, generous, open, caring, inclusive, affluent, low to zero expressed emotion, fair, fun loving, the list is endless. As for Lammy being an invader, like my parents, if his parents came here legally, then no case to be heard my lud. And it is Lammys job to be british. As in my case not Russian or italian, and have those values. The problem is pronounced, that britain is TOO good, that all congregate here to lap up the streets paved with gold. And Cambridge in particular. Ive lived in three different cities, all different, Cambridge is kind, etc all those things, to a fault. I grew up not taking a penny from the state, my parents had to much self esteem, they were poor, penniless immigrants who came here and made good, afflent, home owners. Here is an important cultural difference, that the British think the state owes them, and are dependant on it...the state. Not good. Its not all roses. There are other differences, i, we, WORKED HARD. The indolence of the british is amazing. ETC. I wonder what Lammys cultural differences are. Lammy is quite a friutcake. Rumours are that Starmer is going to dump Lammy from the front bench after the election, so you may get your wish anyway. I do know what you mean about loose cannon though. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 2, 2024 10:52:05 GMT
Lammy's main problem is that he's basically a stupid bastard.
I was listening to him on LBC (just before I gave up on it completely) talking about Will Smith and the Oscars debacle.
Lammy sounded close to tears as he said words to the effect of (if not his actual words): “This is not OK. This is how other people (meaning non-black people) will judge us...”
And I remember thinking: “My God, this idiot actually believes the racial claptrap he spouts”.
Because as someone oft accused of being a whitey/righty/racist bastard my immediate thoughts were not: “It's because they're black” but rather: “Look at that pair of over-privileged wankers, having a spat at a self-indulgent awards ceremony”.
That was the extent of my thoughts on the subject. Their race didn't even come into it.
But for Lammy, like many on the left, identity politics is everything and there can be no other explanation for anything.
Lammy. The stupid, racist bastard.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2024 10:56:43 GMT
Lammy's main problem is that he's basically a stupid bastard. I was listening to him on LBC (just before I gave up on it completely) talking about Will Smith and the Oscars debacle. Lammy sounded close to tears as he said words to the effect of (if not his actual words): “This is not OK. This is how other people (meaning non-black people) will judge us...” And I remember thinking: “My God, this idiot actually believes the racial claptrap he spouts”. Because as someone oft accused of being a whitey/righty/racist bastard my immediate thoughts were not: “It's because they're black” but rather: “Look at that pair of over-privileged wankers, having a spat at a self-indulgent awards ceremony”. That was the extent of my thoughts on the subject. Their race didn't even come into it. But for Lammy, like many on the left, identity politics is everything and there can be no other explanation for anything. Lammy. The stupid, racist bastard. I couldn't agree more. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jul 2, 2024 11:02:26 GMT
Lammy's main problem is that he's basically a stupid bastard. I was listening to him on LBC (just before I gave up on it completely) talking about Will Smith and the Oscars debacle. Lammy sounded close to tears as he said words to the effect of (if not his actual words): “This is not OK. This is how other people (meaning non-black people) will judge us...” And I remember thinking: “My God, this idiot actually believes the racial claptrap he spouts”. Because as someone oft accused of being a whitey/righty/racist bastard my immediate thoughts were not: “It's because they're black” but rather: “Look at that pair of over-privileged wankers, having a spat at a self-indulgent awards ceremony”. That was the extent of my thoughts on the subject. Their race didn't even come into it. But for Lammy, like many on the left, identity politics is everything and there can be no other explanation for anything. Lammy. The stupid, racist bastard. Lammy is a classic chip on the shoulder racist type. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 2, 2024 11:06:26 GMT
Lammy is a classic chip on the shoulder racist type. And this is their credo:  |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 2, 2024 11:07:59 GMT
Lammy's main problem is that he's basically a stupid bastard. I was listening to him on LBC (just before I gave up on it completely) talking about Will Smith and the Oscars debacle. Lammy sounded close to tears as he said words to the effect of (if not his actual words): “This is not OK. This is how other people (meaning non-black people) will judge us...” And I remember thinking: “My God, this idiot actually believes the racial claptrap he spouts”. Because as someone oft accused of being a whitey/righty/racist bastard my immediate thoughts were not: “It's because they're black” but rather: “Look at that pair of over-privileged wankers, having a spat at a self-indulgent awards ceremony”. That was the extent of my thoughts on the subject. Their race didn't even come into it. But for Lammy, like many on the left, identity politics is everything and there can be no other explanation for anything. Lammy. The stupid, racist bastard. Lammy is a classic chip on the shoulder racist type. He's basically Diane Abbott in trousers. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 2, 2024 11:56:08 GMT
It occurs to me this is unsurprising. The British WERE by nature conservative. Two world wars put paid to that by killing off those who instinctively felt the need to protect that state of affairs and what invaded our shores shortly after caused the change.... John, prior to WW1, ordinary Britons were mostly forelock-tugging sycophants, cowed by the British class system into believing that people with money were the natural people to put into power. Furthermore, most of those who fought were conscripted to do so and may or may not have 'felt the need' to protect 'that state of affairs'. Most would feel the need to protect our country, not necessarily the way it was run. I think prior to world war one most people living on this island simply didn’t have a voice of any sort I knew from my own history O level taken back in 1974 that prior to 1832 you had to have freehold ownership of enough land to accrue a rental income of forty shillings from your tenants if you were to have rented it, or be a cleric, to have a vote. This actually disenfranchised many Londoners whose homes were leasehold with the land owned by some Duke or other. It was quite a surprise to me when my youngest did the subject at A level that she found the 1832 Reform Act did surprisingly little. It changed the property ownership from being a requirement to own freehold land, to owning property freehold OR leasehold. Whole swathes of London Society became enfranchised, but only seven men in what is now Brecon and Radnorshire were so empowered, an ancestor of my grandmother’s extended family being one of them. He owned the pub and brew house which TOGETHER were worth more than £10 m. Had they been on different land grants, being at opposite ends of the street, he would have not got a vote No woman had a vote then of course. Fewer than one in ten men did Widening the franchise obviously dumbed down the credit rating of the electorate. I’m nit convinced it was a good idea given the rabble Wales now allows a vote |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 2, 2024 12:04:35 GMT
I am a first generation immigrant, i dont have a celtic or anglo saxon gene in my body, and i have values that are not british, i am not patient or tolerant, like the british. I dont know what Lammy background is, but his attitude to life is of common record. Indeed, it is marked with intolerance and a blood lust. Not british is it? I will go further to say that Lammy has two possibilities, one that he is hate filled, two, he is border line, or is psychotic. Labour have kept him silent because they know he is a loose cannon. And this man seems to be set to be foreign secretary. Lammy was born in Holloway, apparently, i was born in Cambridge, technically we are both british. Would we rule as a briton would, with our genetic mnakeup and , probably more importantly, growing up in a different childhood culture. I grew up in an immigrant bubble, that of eastern europe and Italy, and as a child i admired the british for the qualities they had. I wanted to be one. I wanted to be patient, understanding, generous, open, caring, inclusive, affluent, low to zero expressed emotion, fair, fun loving, the list is endless. As for Lammy being an invader, like my parents, if his parents came here legally, then no case to be heard my lud. And it is Lammys job to be british. As in my case not Russian or italian, and have those values. The problem is pronounced, that britain is TOO good, that all congregate here to lap up the streets paved with gold. And Cambridge in particular. Ive lived in three different cities, all different, Cambridge is kind, etc all those things, to a fault. I grew up not taking a penny from the state, my parents had to much self esteem, they were poor, penniless immigrants who came here and made good, afflent, home owners. Here is an important cultural difference, that the British think the state owes them, and are dependant on it...the state. Not good. Its not all roses. There are other differences, i, we, WORKED HARD. The indolence of the british is amazing. ETC. I wonder what Lammys cultural differences are. Lammy is quite a friutcake. As a result of Ted Heath’s 1971 immigration act anyone born here after that date to parents who were not themselves able to produce a passport defining them a British Subject : Citizen Of The United Kingdom And Colonies and whose grandparents were also collectively unable to produce such a document are NOT themselves entitled to a British Passport nor claim Citizenship, voting rights etc. Unless they live in wales where labour want your council and assembly vote so don’t care |
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