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Post by see2 on Jul 1, 2024 21:19:35 GMT
Three isn't even a quorum Self awareness allows one to see reality. Anyone who is further left of moderate or further right of moderate, is no longer dealing with UK reality. Three isn't even a quorumAh bless , you try to use the word quorum but don't know the meaning of the word the minimum number of officers or members of a body that is required to be present at a given meeting (as to transact business)www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/quorumYes I know, that's why I used the word with a smiley. I guess you have just looked it up for the first time LOL
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Post by see2 on Jul 1, 2024 21:26:05 GMT
How we treat illegal migrants who cross the English Channel in boats is a separate issue to how many immigrants we can take. We cannot take in all who choose the UK as a destination, therefore we have to find a solution which is fair to the British people, sustainable, yet stands by our international agreements on refugees and asylum. Does anyone know what the answer is ? ... Do you have an answer ? The outgoing governments plan has not worked, and the idea of sending a tiny proporion to Rwanda will never work, for the simple reason that those sitting waiting to cross the Channel in Calais will know that the chances of been sent to Rwanda is very small, therefore its not a deterent. The Labour leader has got some ideas, and a plan of action, which will involve using British Intelligence and tracking the people smugglers back towards source, I dont know whether it will be effective, but according to a series of special reports on Channel 4 News, it souonds more like a credible plan.Countries across Europe (including the UK) have been trying (and failing) for years to combat the people smugglers - if only they had known all they needed to do was call Mr Starmer.. Well IF Starmer is the PM after the next election you will be able to make an accurate assessment in 5years time of his ability to change the problem.
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 1, 2024 21:31:11 GMT
Britain is governed by none british people, watch this...when David Lammy becomes forign secretary. As a country we have been taken over, destroyed from within, we have let the invaders take over. Our wealth is given away. David Lammy was born in Holloway. Why are you calling him an invader? Well he is obviously an alien - if he can grow a Cervix then he is not of this world.
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Post by andrewbrown on Jul 1, 2024 22:32:16 GMT
David Lammy was born in Holloway. Why are you calling him an invader? Well he is obviously an alien - if he can grow a Cervix then he is not of this world. Has he grown a cervix, and if so is this cervix British?
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Post by see2 on Jul 1, 2024 22:34:24 GMT
David Lammy was born in Holloway. Why are you calling him an invader? Well he is obviously an alien - if he can grow a Cervix then he is not of this world. Maybe this can help your understanding of the human condition www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK279170/ If it doesn't open, copy and paste it in the search at the top of the page. See also Female,46,XY
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Post by buccaneer on Jul 2, 2024 1:41:53 GMT
I dont believe that the British people are "Conservative" by default, how do people who believe such a notion feel this fits in with Wales for example, or Scotland. ? What I do believe is that most British people, the vast majority, believe in fairness. Most British people interpret what they see or believe as "fair" in policies, proposals or doctrine from political parties. A minority of British people either perceive or believe what some try to make them believe through propoganda and falsehoods, but this minority can sometimes be a substantial minority. The further you go to the extremes of the political spectrum .. to the far Right and far Left, the more detatched from reality it becomes, and THEIR versions of "fairness" verges on lunacy. Only three political parties have ever governed this country - Centre Right, Centre Left and Liberal, the Communists tryed to get near power, as did the Fascists, both without success. The current dizzy heights of Reform UK are a flash in the pan, same as the peak in BNP support at the time of the Great Recession of 2008-2010, and the rise in Communist support in the Great Depression, and the rise in popularity of the British Union of Fascists. More than anything else, British people believe in fairness, and that applies to admiring a HIndu family who's grandson became British Prime Minister, even if you disagree with that Prime Minister. It says something about this great country when third generation immigrants can "make it" here, if they work hard and aspire to do well. A majority of people do believe in fairness, but they also don't believe in having the piss taken out of them.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 2, 2024 6:38:26 GMT
Not so. As I have pointed out in another thread, in every election bar two, since the Second World War, progressive (or 'leftie', if you prefer) parties have won a bigger share of the vote than right wing parties. Unfortunately, our FPTP system is fatally skewed and has placed the levers of power in the hands of right wing parties more often than left wing parties, despite clear evidence that the majority are actually progressive. For the British to be, by default, conservative, there must be a fuck-ton of right wing loons who sit on their hands and don't vote. It occurs to me this is unsurprising. The British WERE by nature conservative. Two world wars put paid to that by killing off those who instinctively felt the need to protect that state of affairs and what invaded our shores shortly after caused the change....
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Post by sandypine on Jul 2, 2024 6:41:54 GMT
Britain is governed by none british people, watch this...when David Lammy becomes forign secretary. As a country we have been taken over, destroyed from within, we have let the invaders take over. Our wealth is given away. David Lammy was born in Holloway. Why are you calling him an invader? I suppose in the same way that in India during the years of British involvement no matter where a person of British extraction was born and no matter how many generations they had lived in India they were always to the Indians British/foreign/invaders and that is why many left on Independence and had to 'return' to Britain where culturally they were misfits. This did not seem to worry anyone at all as they were only British and did not 'belong' in India. It sems that everyone else can be as callous and as non-inclusive as tehy like but the poor old Brits have to roll over and take it. Lammy himself defines his own difference by self defining as an ethnic minority. One cannot be both different and the same all at one time.
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Post by om15 on Jul 2, 2024 6:42:18 GMT
What was his mother inside for?
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 2, 2024 6:43:43 GMT
Well he is obviously an alien - if he can grow a Cervix then he is not of this world. Maybe this can help your understanding of the human condition www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK279170/ If it doesn't open, copy and paste it in the search at the top of the page. See also Female,46,XY That does not say that someone can grow a Cervix - want to have another bash?
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 2, 2024 6:48:21 GMT
Well he is obviously an alien - if he can grow a Cervix then he is not of this world. Maybe this can help your understanding of the human condition www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK279170/ If it doesn't open, copy and paste it in the search at the top of the page. See also Female,46,XY File not found. Or specifically, their version of the popular error code
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 2, 2024 6:55:56 GMT
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Post by Cartertonian on Jul 2, 2024 9:14:46 GMT
Not so. As I have pointed out in another thread, in every election bar two, since the Second World War, progressive (or 'leftie', if you prefer) parties have won a bigger share of the vote than right wing parties. Unfortunately, our FPTP system is fatally skewed and has placed the levers of power in the hands of right wing parties more often than left wing parties, despite clear evidence that the majority are actually progressive. For the British to be, by default, conservative, there must be a fuck-ton of right wing loons who sit on their hands and don't vote. It occurs to me this is unsurprising. The British WERE by nature conservative. Two world wars put paid to that by killing off those who instinctively felt the need to protect that state of affairs and what invaded our shores shortly after caused the change.... John, prior to WW1, ordinary Britons were mostly forelock-tugging sycophants, cowed by the British class system into believing that people with money were the natural people to put into power. Furthermore, most of those who fought were conscripted to do so and may or may not have 'felt the need' to protect 'that state of affairs'. Most would feel the need to protect our country, not necessarily the way it was run.
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Post by piglet on Jul 2, 2024 9:24:35 GMT
I am a first generation immigrant, i dont have a celtic or anglo saxon gene in my body, and i have values that are not british, i am not patient or tolerant, like the british. I dont know what Lammy background is, but his attitude to life is of common record.
Indeed, it is marked with intolerance and a blood lust. Not british is it? I will go further to say that Lammy has two possibilities, one that he is hate filled, two, he is border line, or is psychotic. Labour have kept him silent because they know he is a loose cannon.
And this man seems to be set to be foreign secretary. Lammy was born in Holloway, apparently, i was born in Cambridge, technically we are both british. Would we rule as a briton would, with our genetic mnakeup and , probably more importantly, growing up in a different childhood culture. I grew up in an immigrant bubble, that of eastern europe and Italy, and as a child i admired the british for the qualities they had.
I wanted to be one. I wanted to be patient, understanding, generous, open, caring, inclusive, affluent, low to zero expressed emotion, fair, fun loving, the list is endless. As for Lammy being an invader, like my parents, if his parents came here legally, then no case to be heard my lud.
And it is Lammys job to be british. As in my case not Russian or italian, and have those values. The problem is pronounced, that britain is TOO good, that all congregate here to lap up the streets paved with gold. And Cambridge in particular.
Ive lived in three different cities, all different, Cambridge is kind, etc all those things, to a fault. I grew up not taking a penny from the state, my parents had to much self esteem, they were poor, penniless immigrants who came here and made good, afflent, home owners. Here is an important cultural difference, that the British think the state owes them, and are dependant on it...the state. Not good. Its not all roses. There are other differences, i, we, WORKED HARD. The indolence of the british is amazing. ETC. I wonder what Lammys cultural differences are.
Lammy is quite a friutcake.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 2, 2024 9:29:14 GMT
Well he is obviously an alien - if he can grow a Cervix then he is not of this world. Has he grown a cervix, and if so is this cervix British? Well, he's a massive cunt so he's halfway there.
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