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Post by Bentley on Jun 28, 2024 13:06:23 GMT
Indeed . The Mafia never joined the FBI. They did and they didn't.
Join: c. 1300, "to unite (things) into a whole, combine, put or bring together; juxtapose,"
It can also mean sign up for a job and be on their regular payroll. They did not join in this narrow sense, but there was certainly a time where they united/combined. That was my original point. I think we have had this kind of confusion in arguments before over a word which has multiple meanings in different contexts. It's just one of those historical quirky things that you may not have come across in broadly believing the Mafia and the FBI would never see eye to eye.
By the way, I have one of those models of an American gangster car on my mantelpiece. My family had a cleaner who bought it as a present when i was a child and love it to bits. They had some cool cars back then. They had a ledge along the side where you could stand with a machine gun.
They didn’t join the FBI , they helped them . For instance a police informer is not employed by the police , they would not be considered to be a police officer . You know it and I know it but keep it up. Its not quirky , they didn’t join in any sense . |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 28, 2024 13:10:40 GMT
They did and they didn't.
Join: c. 1300, "to unite (things) into a whole, combine, put or bring together; juxtapose,"
It can also mean sign up for a job and be on their regular payroll. They did not join in this narrow sense, but there was certainly a time where they united/combined. That was my original point. I think we have had this kind of confusion in arguments before over a word which has multiple meanings in different contexts. It's just one of those historical quirky things that you may not have come across in broadly believing the Mafia and the FBI would never see eye to eye.
By the way, I have one of those models of an American gangster car on my mantelpiece. My family had a cleaner who bought it as a present when i was a child and love it to bits. They had some cool cars back then. They had a ledge along the side where you could stand with a machine gun.
They didn’t join the FBI , they helped them . For instance a police informer is not employed by the police , they would not be considered to be a police officer . You know it and I know it but keep it up. Its not quirky , they didn’t join in any sense . You can join someone or something in many different ways. I could join you for your birthday etc. It's a vague word. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 28, 2024 13:25:40 GMT
They didn’t join the FBI , they helped them . For instance a police informer is not employed by the police , they would not be considered to be a police officer . You know it and I know it but keep it up. Its not quirky , they didn’t join in any sense . You can join someone or something in many different ways. I could join you for your birthday etc. It's a vague word. Now you are being disingenuous. If I join a group of policemen in a round of drinks , I’ve joined the police ? Did you learn that from the same teacher who taught Diane Abbott? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 28, 2024 13:39:46 GMT
You can join someone or something in many different ways. I could join you for your birthday etc. It's a vague word. Now you are being disingenuous. If I join a group of policemen in a round of drinks , I’ve joined the police ? Did you learn that from the same teacher who taught Diane Abbott? I'm just teaching you a bit of lateral thinking. |
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Post by thescotsman on Jun 28, 2024 14:10:27 GMT
Of course but that's not the point. The point is that if Russia has a beef with the EU then it discusses such with the EU and not invade Ukraine. I think we have a case of the same thing again. The above is your point. I have a different point to make. Using retarded assumptions about the world hardly ever pays dividendsAgreed, making assumptions is never wise. I'm not sure it's assumptions that are being made in this case though. It's believing as fact the narratives created and then passing these fictions on without any critical thought as to their provenance or content. |
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Post by Orac on Jun 28, 2024 14:28:26 GMT
I think we have a case of the same thing again. The above is your point. I have a different point to make. Using retarded assumptions about the world hardly ever pays dividendsAgreed, making assumptions is never wise. I'm not sure it's assumptions that are being made in this case though. It's believing as fact the narratives created and then passing these fictions on without any critical thought as to their provenance or content. Your opponent has a view of you and your motives. They are not forced to accept your high opinion of yourself. By integrating this notion you can avoid walking into completely avoidable cowpats and being bewildered. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 28, 2024 15:04:50 GMT
Now you are being disingenuous. If I join a group of policemen in a round of drinks , I’ve joined the police ? Did you learn that from the same teacher who taught Diane Abbott? I'm just teaching you a bit of lateral thinking. Nope. You were wrong , don’t have the balls to admit it and posting shit to save face…and failing . |
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Post by thescotsman on Jun 28, 2024 15:09:07 GMT
Agreed, making assumptions is never wise. I'm not sure it's assumptions that are being made in this case though. It's believing as fact the narratives created and then passing these fictions on without any critical thought as to their provenance or content. Your opponent has a view of you and your motives. They are not forced to accept your high opinion of yourself. By integrating this notion you can avoid walking into completely avoidable cowpats and being bewildered. ...and..... |
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Post by Orac on Jun 28, 2024 17:02:33 GMT
Your opponent has a view of you and your motives. They are not forced to accept your high opinion of yourself. By integrating this notion you can avoid walking into completely avoidable cowpats and being bewildered. ...and..... so you can pursue your interests intelligently, rather than walking into cowpats for no good reason? |
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Post by thescotsman on Jun 28, 2024 22:09:05 GMT
so you can pursue your interests intelligently, rather than walking into cowpats for no good reason? well.....I mean sage advice...are you a regular reader of Country Life? |
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