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Post by aristaeus on Jun 9, 2024 11:40:23 GMT
Is Cliff Richard, who was born in India and whose father was born in India, eligible for high office?
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Post by Bentley on Jun 9, 2024 11:43:31 GMT
Listen to what Lefties say . They will tell you everything you need to know about them . Do you think Boris Johnson should have been barred from being PM because he was born abroad? Now you are back to arguing against yourself . Do you think that you must be the nationality of the place that you are born in ? If Johnson was born in the US but can be British then Sunak can be born the the UK and be considered Indian. We’ve been through this before Hermy . You are just doing the Hermy debate method and repeating the same refuted arguments.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 9, 2024 11:44:37 GMT
It is rather ironic that those on the Left who promote that idea that migrants should be treated the same way as ingenious citizens and allowed all the benefits of citizenship, get in a paddy over migrants owning a newspaper... Ah yes, but they have to be the right kind of migrant and not just any old migrant. Poor and brown migrants tend to be favoured by the left.
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Post by Bentley on Jun 9, 2024 11:52:07 GMT
Tbh I’m not bothered if ethnic minorities hold high office in government. However it must be acknowledged that they may be part of a culture and/ or group who do not have the majority of the UK as their priority. They might not have much in common with the majority of the people they are supposed to represent .
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 9, 2024 11:55:53 GMT
If someone not born here and has no ancestral link to here wants high office, an ethnic Russian for example, how do we trust? A black Briton, someone born here, raised here, with loyalty to our country I would consider voting for, depending on their policies. A foreigner, no. There's something about being from here. British born children of migrants have that. Migrants themselves can be here for a multitude of reasons. Wouldn't want a Russian spy or a Chinese spy in Downing Street, would you? And yes, there have been British born traitors sometimes, Kim Philby springs to mind, but he never sought to govern. We need politicians who are loyal to us. How many British do you see in the Chinese government, or the Russian, Indian or African government? I think you will find the answer is a big fat zero.
It's interesting that our first Indian prime minister appears to have destroyed the most successful political party in the UK over the course of our entire history. The Cons now face the real risk of being overtaken by Reform, and much as I really don't like Nigel Farage as a person, the polls indicate a near vertical rise in popularity in the last few days, which could end up as a clear demonstration on what happens in the UK if you as a political party buy into wokeism. Labour are popular right now and have some ignoramuses from the third world put into ministerial positions. It's not going to end well for them either.
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jun 9, 2024 11:58:21 GMT
Tbh I’m not bothered if ethnic minorities hold high office in government. However it must be acknowledged that they may be part of a culture and/ or group who do not have the majority of the UK as their priority. They might not have much in common with the majority of the people they are supposed to represent . "However it must be acknowledged that they may be part of a culture and/ or group who do not have the majority of the UK as their priority." You honestly believe that's confined to ethnic minorities? Really?
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Post by Bentley on Jun 9, 2024 12:03:49 GMT
Tbh I’m not bothered if ethnic minorities hold high office in government. However it must be acknowledged that they may be part of a culture and/ or group who do not have the majority of the UK as their priority. They might not have much in common with the majority of the people they are supposed to represent . "However it must be acknowledged that they may be part of a culture and/ or group who do not have the majority of the UK as their priority." You honestly believe that's confined to ethnic minorities? Really? I know it’s not . The difference is that lefties like you acknowledge it in other groups but not in ethnic minorities.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 9, 2024 12:10:14 GMT
It is rather ironic that those on the Left who promote that idea that migrants should be treated the same way as ingenious citizens and allowed all the benefits of citizenship, get in a paddy over migrants owning a newspaper... Ah yes, but they have to be the right kind of migrant and not just any old migrant. Poor and brown migrants tend to be favoured by the left. Yes because you can bribe more poor people with your tax income than rich people.
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jun 9, 2024 12:19:54 GMT
"However it must be acknowledged that they may be part of a culture and/ or group who do not have the majority of the UK as their priority." You honestly believe that's confined to ethnic minorities? Really? I know it’s not . The difference is that lefties like you acknowledge it in other groups but not in ethnic minorities. I acknowledge that there is the potential for conflict of interest in every demographic group.
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Post by Bentley on Jun 9, 2024 12:30:21 GMT
I know it’s not . The difference is that lefties like you acknowledge it in other groups but not in ethnic minorities. I acknowledge that there is the potential for conflict of interest in every demographic group. Where?
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jun 9, 2024 12:38:13 GMT
I acknowledge that there is the potential for conflict of interest in every demographic group. Where? Personal, family, business interests clashing with the best interests of the country.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 9, 2024 12:39:44 GMT
Tbh I’m not bothered if ethnic minorities hold high office in government. However it must be acknowledged that they may be part of a culture and/ or group who do not have the majority of the UK as their priority. They might not have much in common with the majority of the people they are supposed to represent . Which is precisely why I wouldn't choose to vote for them.
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Post by Bentley on Jun 9, 2024 12:42:16 GMT
Personal, family, business interests clashing with the best interests of the country. So this post then ..
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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 9, 2024 12:45:07 GMT
What ancestral links does the current prime minister have to the UK? The Empire and Commonwealth. He's proven more loyalty to the UK than Trump to the USA. I haven't heard of classified information being leaked to Putin by Sunak. In other words, none.
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jun 9, 2024 12:46:03 GMT
Personal, family, business interests clashing with the best interests of the country. So this post then .. Sorry you've lost me.
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