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Post by Bentley on Jun 8, 2024 13:25:03 GMT
The remedial class in full on mode. Can't work out that people born in the UK are not foreigners. But of course they are not racist. No. They just don't think that black British people are as good as white British people. And that's not racist. My only disappointment is that one member of the class isn't here, hopefully they will join soon and then we can close the door behind you. Just leftie knee jerk accusation of racism here folks . It’s all in his head . |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 8, 2024 13:27:08 GMT
Johnson was born in America and was a US citizen until 2016. Sunak was born in Britain. Which one is the most 'foreigner'? If Johnson was born in the US and is not a US citizen then it follows that Sunak is not necessarily a UK citizen. People born in the USA to non American parents are granted US citizenship so they can use American facilities like hospitals and schools etc if their parents work in America |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 8, 2024 13:30:16 GMT
The remedial class in full on mode. Can't work out that people born in the UK are not foreigners. But of course they are not racist. No. They just don't think that black British people are as good as white British people. And that's not racist. My only disappointment is that one member of the class isn't here, hopefully they will join soon and then we can close the door behind you. Just leftie knee jerk accusation of racism here folks . It’s all in his head .Well there's nothing else in it. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 8, 2024 13:31:06 GMT
If Johnson was born in the US and is not a US citizen then it follows that Sunak is not necessarily a UK citizen. People born in the USA to non American parents are granted US citizenship so they can use American facilities like hospitals and schools etc if their parents work in America So it’s another straw man from another leftie then . |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 8, 2024 13:34:22 GMT
Anyway that foreigner first minister of Wales lost a vote of no confidence, this is what happens when you woke tick box suitability rather than credentials Qualifications and competence.
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jun 8, 2024 13:35:33 GMT
Is he a foreigner in your opinion? If he is not American then Sunak could be born in the UK and not be British . Don’t you agree? Someone can be born in Britain and not be British, that's not the case with Sunak however. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 8, 2024 13:38:35 GMT
It's highly probable that Sunak is entitled to Indian citizenship as a 'Non-resident Indian' on account of his own family background and even more so since his wife is the daughter of a prominent multi-billionaire. He may already have it as far as we know but is keeping quiet for the time being.
So he could be both a British citizen and a foreigner at the same time, depending which passport he chooses to use.
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Post by Bentley on Jun 8, 2024 13:38:35 GMT
To a degree I am going to defend Rishi Sunak here I do not believe for one moment that his blunder had anything to do with either his Indian heritage or the fact that he is Hindu, and I think its wrong to bring this dimension into the argument. India, and the Indian people are uncomfortable about the role they played in two world wars, mainly because they find it hard to accept the fact that in both wars, the Indian Army made valuable contributions to the allied war effort - fighting for their Imperial masters. He did make a mistake, but ethnicity or faith has nothing to do with it. Yes and no. I suspect that had he been an ethic Brit with family ties to those who served in the war in Europe then he would have understood the significance of being there longer and how upset the veterans would feel by his absence …but he isn’t and he didn’t. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jun 8, 2024 13:39:20 GMT
Then you are contradicting yourself . Is it because Johnson is white ? How am I contradicting myself? |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 8, 2024 13:40:54 GMT
Then you are contradicting yourself . Is it because Johnson is white ? How am I contradicting myself? Read your previous posts FFS hh. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 8, 2024 13:41:46 GMT
If he is not American then Sunak could be born in the UK and not be British . Don’t you agree? Someone can be born in Britain and not be British, that's not the case with Sunak however. I’m not the one using the Johnson argument . If Johnson can be born the US and not be an American citizen then by the same argument Sunak can be born in the UK and not be British . Of course , you could admit that this argument is a strawman and false comparison. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 8, 2024 13:43:19 GMT
Then you are contradicting yourself . Is it because Johnson is white ? How am I contradicting myself? My bad. I confused this with the Johnson straw man . |
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Post by witchfinder on Jun 8, 2024 13:46:16 GMT
It's highly probable that Sunak is entitled to Indian citizenship as a 'Non-resident Indian' on account of his own family background and even more so since his wife is the daughter of a prominent multi-billionaire. He may already have it as far as we know but is keeping quiet for the time being. So he could be both a British citizen and a foreigner at the same time, depending which passport he chooses to use. India does not allow dual citizenship The term is "Overseas Citizen", which gives a person of Indian heritage a permanent Visa to come and go into and out of India, but that person cannot vote and is not a full Indian citizen. Rishi Sunak cannot be both a British citizen AND an Indian citizen. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 8, 2024 13:48:29 GMT
Technically Sunak is a British citizen but it’s clear that he is a much Indian as anyone with a UK passport can be ,
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Post by patman post on Jun 8, 2024 14:06:22 GMT
Seems strange that this thread quickly turned into a discussion of ethnicity, with little comment on the stupid and insulting and disrespectful decision by Sunak to skip part of the D-Day commemorations for a TV interview.
What appears to make it worse is that the TV date had been set some time before, so this wasn't a sudden mistake, but he'd obviously not planned to attend the full session.
Why didn't Sunak's advisers or Lord Cameron set him straight — or did he want to be the UK rep with all the other dignitaries...?
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