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Post by witchfinder on Jul 22, 2024 16:00:19 GMT
If the incident which caused the riot in Leeds involved a Roma family, then explain how Farage was "correct" ? The Roma people are European, and in this instance appear to be Romanian, which is not part of the Sub Continent, clearly I am correct, that Farage got his facts completely wrong as per usual. The Labour Party are not "friends" with Hamas, and Hamas are not friends of The Labour Partry, just for your information. If a person, or persons support Pro Palestinian demonstrations, that does not make them pro Hamas, except in the minds of thick people, it simply makes them Pro Palestian. I am pushing back on the utterly ridiculous idea that Nigel Farage is an intelligent, level headed politician; He very clearly makes things up, in order to score cheap political points even if it stirs up racial tensions ... he's a complete prat. You need to ask the question were there a lot of Asian people present at the riots and did they stand up against the police. If yes then that is the politics of the sub continent whether you like it or not. Ok, I have asked myself the questions which you came up with, I have thought about it ( for a few seconds ), and here is my answer: To repeat - for the third time - the incident which caused the rioting involved a Roma family and Social Services, backed by police officers ( for those that cannot work it out, Roma people are a racial group related to Gypsies, and mostly come from Eastern Europe ). The rioters, looking at film footage from C4 News appear to be mostly Roma people, but also with some Asian and white people present. Listening to evidence, looking at film footage, this WAS NOT about the politics of the Sub Continent, it was not about an "Asian" issue or a "Muslim" issue. Once again, I repeat that Nigel Farage was utterly and completely wrong, and to say that he is not wrong "because some Asian people were present" is so ridiculous, its almost unbelievable that anyone could make such an assertion. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 22, 2024 16:02:24 GMT
You need to ask the question were there a lot of Asian people present at the riots and did they stand up against the police. If yes then that is the politics of the sub continent whether you like it or not. Ok, I have asked myself the questions which you came up with, I have thought about it ( for a few seconds ), and here is my answer: To repeat - for the third time - the incident which caused the rioting involved a Roma family and Social Services, backed by police officers ( for those that cannot work it out, Roma people are a racial group related to Gypsies, and mostly come from Eastern Europe ). The rioters, looking at film footage from C4 News appear to be mostly Roma people, but also with some Asian and white people present. Listening to evidence, looking at film footage, this WAS NOT about the politics of the Sub Continent, it was not about an "Asian" issue or a "Muslim" issue. Once again, I repeat that Nigel Farage was utterly and completely wrong, and to say that he is not wrong "because some Asian people were present" is so ridiculous, its almost unbelievable that anyone could make such an assertion. Read my post above Fiddles and stop spouting shite, there's a chap. |
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 22, 2024 16:11:00 GMT
If the incident which caused the riot in Leeds involved a Roma family... Stop glorying in ignorance, fiddles. The Roma originated in India, not Romania. And, from the various media, it can clearly be seen that the majority of rioters were of Asian origin. So how was it that Farage was wrong? You really are showing your ignorance now The Roma / Romai people are generally thought to have moved from India 1000 years ago, its rather like me attempting to say that a riot by white people in East Yorkshire was caused by Vikings because Scandanavia is home of the largest gene-pool of white people in East Yorkshir. Fucking good try though |
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 22, 2024 16:16:30 GMT
Ok, I have asked myself the questions which you came up with, I have thought about it ( for a few seconds ), and here is my answer: To repeat - for the third time - the incident which caused the rioting involved a Roma family and Social Services, backed by police officers ( for those that cannot work it out, Roma people are a racial group related to Gypsies, and mostly come from Eastern Europe ). The rioters, looking at film footage from C4 News appear to be mostly Roma people, but also with some Asian and white people present. Listening to evidence, looking at film footage, this WAS NOT about the politics of the Sub Continent, it was not about an "Asian" issue or a "Muslim" issue. Once again, I repeat that Nigel Farage was utterly and completely wrong, and to say that he is not wrong "because some Asian people were present" is so ridiculous, its almost unbelievable that anyone could make such an assertion. Read my post above Fiddles and stop spouting shite, there's a chap. Let me put this a different way If there were Asian people in that crowd, and it would be unlikely if there were none, because Harehills has a large Asian population, they WERE NOT playing out the politics of the sub continent, they were protesting or rioting due to a child protection matter, whch has got naff-all to do with Indian sub continent politics. I repeat AGAIN - Farage got his facts wrong, and ought to have kept his big gob shut |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 22, 2024 16:31:22 GMT
Stop glorying in ignorance, fiddles. The Roma originated in India, not Romania. And, from the various media, it can clearly be seen that the majority of rioters were of Asian origin. So how was it that Farage was wrong? You really are showing your ignorance now The Roma / Romai people are generally thought to have moved from India 1000 years ago, its rather like me attempting to say that a riot by white people in East Yorkshire was caused by Vikings because Scandanavia is home of the largest gene-pool of white people in East Yorkshir. Fucking good try though Yes, I know fiddles. I'm partly of Roma descent. But fucking good try though. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 22, 2024 16:33:07 GMT
Read my post above Fiddles and stop spouting shite, there's a chap. Let me put this a different way If there were Asian people in that crowd, and it would be unlikely if there were none, because Harehills has a large Asian population, they WERE NOT playing out the politics of the sub continent, they were protesting or rioting due to a child protection matter, whch has got naff-all to do with Indian sub continent politics. I repeat AGAIN - Farage got his facts wrong, and ought to have kept his big gob shut Asian politics is extremely tribal, fiddles. It's unlikely that they'd turn out in sympathy for an entirely different tribe. But fucking good try though. |
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Post by see2 on Jul 22, 2024 17:50:12 GMT
YOU, despite explanation persisted in referring to me as a liar, which exposed yourself as a hypocritical liar. I posted 'arse hole' thinking you just might get the message, but as a Rightist you just couldn't manage it. If you used to work you must have been a gravedigger with all the holes you continue to dig all by yourself You ran out of anything creditable to say on the subject a few posts ago. |
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Post by see2 on Jul 22, 2024 17:53:58 GMT
Let me put this a different way If there were Asian people in that crowd, and it would be unlikely if there were none, because Harehills has a large Asian population, they WERE NOT playing out the politics of the sub continent, they were protesting or rioting due to a child protection matter, whch has got naff-all to do with Indian sub continent politics. I repeat AGAIN - Farage got his facts wrong, and ought to have kept his big gob shut Asian politics is extremely tribal, fiddles. It's unlikely that they'd turn out in sympathy for an entirely different tribe. But fucking good try though. Trouble makers with a chip on their shoulders will take advantage of any opportunity to express their discontent. |
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Post by sandypine on Jul 22, 2024 18:30:26 GMT
You need to ask the question were there a lot of Asian people present at the riots and did they stand up against the police. If yes then that is the politics of the sub continent whether you like it or not. Ok, I have asked myself the questions which you came up with, I have thought about it ( for a few seconds ), and here is my answer: To repeat - for the third time - the incident which caused the rioting involved a Roma family and Social Services, backed by police officers ( for those that cannot work it out, Roma people are a racial group related to Gypsies, and mostly come from Eastern Europe ). The rioters, looking at film footage from C4 News appear to be mostly Roma people, but also with some Asian and white people present. Listening to evidence, looking at film footage, this WAS NOT about the politics of the Sub Continent, it was not about an "Asian" issue or a "Muslim" issue. Once again, I repeat that Nigel Farage was utterly and completely wrong, and to say that he is not wrong "because some Asian people were present" is so ridiculous, its almost unbelievable that anyone could make such an assertion. So Asian people present, Asian people involved in police car destruction, Asian people involved in throwing things at police, Asian people present in quite large numbers but nothing to do with Asian people because the flashpoint was involving Roma people. Try a different take on a riot, EDL present, EDL involved in some fighting, EDL involved in throwing things at police but nothing to do with the EDL because the flashpoint was an Asian man throwing something at police. It does not work does it? |
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 22, 2024 20:10:38 GMT
Ok, I have asked myself the questions which you came up with, I have thought about it ( for a few seconds ), and here is my answer: To repeat - for the third time - the incident which caused the rioting involved a Roma family and Social Services, backed by police officers ( for those that cannot work it out, Roma people are a racial group related to Gypsies, and mostly come from Eastern Europe ). The rioters, looking at film footage from C4 News appear to be mostly Roma people, but also with some Asian and white people present. Listening to evidence, looking at film footage, this WAS NOT about the politics of the Sub Continent, it was not about an "Asian" issue or a "Muslim" issue. Once again, I repeat that Nigel Farage was utterly and completely wrong, and to say that he is not wrong "because some Asian people were present" is so ridiculous, its almost unbelievable that anyone could make such an assertion. So Asian people present, Asian people involved in police car destruction, Asian people involved in throwing things at police, Asian people present in quite large numbers but nothing to do with Asian people because the flashpoint was involving Roma people. Try a different take on a riot, EDL present, EDL involved in some fighting, EDL involved in throwing things at police but nothing to do with the EDL because the flashpoint was an Asian man throwing something at police. It does not work does it? So do you now admit that Farage got it wrong when he said that it was "the politics of the sub continent playing out on the streets of Leeds" bearing in mind that you have at last stated that it was entirely about a matter involving Roma people. The majority of the rioters / protestors were Roma / Romanian people, so why didn't Farage say it was the politics of Eastern Europe playing out on the streets of Leeds, in which case he would still have been wrong. As for the EDL, causing violence, provoking violence, indulging in intimidation and stirring up tensions are the ONLY things that the EDL ever did, an organisation born out of Football hooligans. Farage has just made a fool of himself Nigel Farage has been accused of inflaming tensions after blaming rioting in Leeds on the “politics of the subcontinent”. The Independent - www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-leeds-riot-twitter-b2582948.htmlLocal MP slams Nigel Farage for 'inflaming' Leeds riots 'with misinformation' as Reform leader says 'politics of the subcontinent are playing out' in the Yorkshire disorder The Daily Mail www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13649719/Nigel-Farage-blasted-inflaming-Leeds-riots-Trumps-rally-without-properly-briefed-footage-emerges-Reform-UK-leader-awkwardly-dodging-Channel-4-questions-actually-invited-summit.html |
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Post by buccaneer on Jul 22, 2024 23:43:11 GMT
It seems to be that Farage's comments are considered more heinous than the atrocious scenes witnessed in Leeds. It's clear that in the ghetto of Harehill, the only integration that has taken place and binded the different ethnic communities
together is their distrust of British authorities and institutions. That should be the talking point. But no, let's attack Farage who's sentiment still stands, though wasn't quite broad enough to encapsulate the Roma community.
Lee Anderson's comments were more accurate: "import a third world culture, then you import third world behaviour".
And for this we have our politicians and the Left wing community to thank for the cesspit the UK has become, because ever more "multiculturalism" is their utopia they wanted to burden British communities with.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 23, 2024 4:59:45 GMT
So Asian people present, Asian people involved in police car destruction, Asian people involved in throwing things at police, Asian people present in quite large numbers but nothing to do with Asian people because the flashpoint was involving Roma people. Try a different take on a riot, EDL present, EDL involved in some fighting, EDL involved in throwing things at police but nothing to do with the EDL because the flashpoint was an Asian man throwing something at police. It does not work does it? So do you now admit that Farage got it wrong when he said that it was "the politics of the sub continent playing out on the streets of Leeds" bearing in mind that you have at last stated that it was entirely about a matter involving Roma people. The majority of the rioters / protestors were Roma / Romanian people, so why didn't Farage say it was the politics of Eastern Europe playing out on the streets of Leeds, in which case he would still have been wrong. As for the EDL, causing violence, provoking violence, indulging in intimidation and stirring up tensions are the ONLY things that the EDL ever did, an organisation born out of Football hooligans. Farage has just made a fool of himself Nigel Farage has been accused of inflaming tensions after blaming rioting in Leeds on the “politics of the subcontinent”. The Independent - www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-leeds-riot-twitter-b2582948.htmlLocal MP slams Nigel Farage for 'inflaming' Leeds riots 'with misinformation' as Reform leader says 'politics of the subcontinent are playing out' in the Yorkshire disorder The Daily Mail www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13649719/Nigel-Farage-blasted-inflaming-Leeds-riots-Trumps-rally-without-properly-briefed-footage-emerges-Reform-UK-leader-awkwardly-dodging-Channel-4-questions-actually-invited-summit.htmlNone of that shows that Farage got it wrong, fiddles. However, you are making a fool of yourself with your desperate need to create an alternative narrative to the one that everyone can clearly see being played out. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jul 23, 2024 7:16:51 GMT
It seems to be that Farage's comments are considered more heinous than the atrocious scenes witnessed in Leeds. It's clear that in the ghetto of Harehill, the only integration that has taken place and binded the different ethnic communities together is their distrust of British authorities and institutions. That should be the talking point. But no, let's attack Farage who's sentiment still stands, though wasn't quite broad enough to encapsulate the Roma community. Lee Anderson's comments were more accurate: "import a third world culture, then you import third world behaviour". And for this we have our politicians and the Left wing community to thank for the cesspit the UK has become, because ever more "multiculturalism" is their utopia they wanted to burden British communities with. Of course Romania isn't the third world, but then 30p Lee was always a bit thick. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jul 23, 2024 8:12:14 GMT
It seems to be that Farage's comments are considered more heinous than the atrocious scenes witnessed in Leeds. It's clear that in the ghetto of Harehill, the only integration that has taken place and binded the different ethnic communities together is their distrust of British authorities and institutions. That should be the talking point. But no, let's attack Farage who's sentiment still stands, though wasn't quite broad enough to encapsulate the Roma community. Lee Anderson's comments were more accurate: "import a third world culture, then you import third world behaviour". And for this we have our politicians and the Left wing community to thank for the cesspit the UK has become, because ever more "multiculturalism" is their utopia they wanted to burden British communities with. Of course Romania isn't the third world, but then 30p Lee was always a bit thick. It's a figure of speech. |
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Post by see2 on Jul 23, 2024 8:14:41 GMT
It seems to be that Farage's comments are considered more heinous than the atrocious scenes witnessed in Leeds. It's clear that in the ghetto of Harehill, the only integration that has taken place and binded the different ethnic communities together is their distrust of British authorities and institutions. That should be the talking point. But no, let's attack Farage who's sentiment still stands, though wasn't quite broad enough to encapsulate the Roma community. Lee Anderson's comments were more accurate: "import a third world culture, then you import third world behaviour". And for this we have our politicians and the Left wing community to thank for the cesspit the UK has become, because ever more "multiculturalism" is their utopia they wanted to burden British communities with. No responsible politician makes comments that stirs up problems in a community. It is right to criticise Farage, he should be the one to begin an intelligent talking point. No one deliberately imports 'third world culture' to the excess caused by asylum seekers. Your last comment is nothing more than your frustration at the absence of an answer to the asylum problem. I note that neither yourself or Farage have been able to show a legal answer to this problem. Just criticising it and blaming politicians and the Left-Wing community is typical useless Rightist rhetoric. Showing that you are as equally lost as Farage is. |
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