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Post by see2 on Jul 21, 2024 16:27:51 GMT
No you wouldn't. A Dictatorship would not have had elections in the first place. A Dictatorship would only have one "politician" total. All The Best So you don't think that Hitler was a dictator. I disagree. Hitler was not elected to power. He forced himself into office. |
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Post by see2 on Jul 21, 2024 16:36:47 GMT
Well I have reached a stage where I realise that it is a waste of time trying to inform people who have bent fixed opinions, But completely lack the intellectual capacity to turn that realisation back on yourself. Even more hypocrisy! All The Best I have no intention of following your nonsense thinking. So please stop projecting your hypocrisy onto me. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 21, 2024 16:48:10 GMT
"The establishment parties have had their day" - According to The Squeezed Middle With Labour winning 411 seats, the Conservaives 121 seats, the Lib Dems 72 seats ( over 90% of seats ), and with Reform UK on 5 seats, it doesn't look like the establishment parties have had their day to me... Oh come off it, fiddles. Record low vote numbers off of a record low turnout tells it's own story, along with Reforms low seat share, the current shambles is the result of a woefully outdated, corrupt and unsustainable electoral system. That's why the electorate are turning their backs on the establishment parties. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 21, 2024 16:48:18 GMT
But completely lack the intellectual capacity to turn that realisation back on yourself. Even more hypocrisy! All The Best I have no intention of following your nonsense thinking. So please stop projecting your hypocrisy onto me. LOL... at the double WHAMMY ... hypocrisy, ..... these two ^^ wouldn't know it if it came up and SLAPPED them square on in the face ........... YOU ARE HYPOCRITES. |
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Post by see2 on Jul 21, 2024 16:52:46 GMT
Says the poster who said this to another member, in this very thread: Your hypocrisy is astounding, Tony Blair and Boris Johnson level astounding. All The Best The post from C2 above yours addressed to me starts Hey arse hole,Unbelievable level of hypocrisy YOU, despite explanation persisted in referring to me as a liar, which exposed yourself as a hypocritical liar. I posted 'arse hole' thinking you just might get the message, but as a Rightist you just couldn't manage it. |
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Post by see2 on Jul 21, 2024 16:54:45 GMT
I have no intention of following your nonsense thinking. So please stop projecting your hypocrisy onto me. LOL... at the double WHAMMY ... hypocrisy, ..... these two ^^ wouldn't know it if it came up and SLAPPED them square on in the face ........... YOU ARE HYPOCRITES. In the opinion of a floundering Rightist poster. Not entirely unexpected. |
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Post by see2 on Jul 21, 2024 17:01:00 GMT
Well, it is possible for someone, once elected, to make of themselves a Dictator. So that's your first point out of the window. But it is simply not possible to say the current UK Government is a Dictatorship. There is no ONE person in the UK Government that has "total power" and that is what is required in a Dictatorship. The person closest to having that "total power" is the Monarch; who can refuse to enact any legislation at will, can dissolve Parliament at will, and can refuse, at will, the creation of any successor government once the previous government is dissolved. All The Best And now we're into the realms of autistic dogmatism that allows only one (your) definition: You see a dictatorship being the exercise of power by an individual. I see it as either that or the exercise of power by a government that has neither popular support nor effective opposition.Exactly as we have now. You post that nonsense because your political bias dominates your thinking. |
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 21, 2024 18:10:45 GMT
"The establishment parties have had their day" - According to The Squeezed Middle With Labour winning 411 seats, the Conservaives 121 seats, the Lib Dems 72 seats ( over 90% of seats ), and with Reform UK on 5 seats, it doesn't look like the establishment parties have had their day to me. At least half of traditional Tory voters would not contemplate voting Reform UK, and all Red Wall seats are back in Labour hands, which indicates that for many voters in traditional working class areas, Brexit mattered, but the small boats problem is not as bigger issue to them. I suggest that this is the pinacle of Reform UK's success, the height of their popularity It was back in 2009 when the BNP astonishingly won 2 European seats, where are they now. ? We have to remember the BNP were destroyed by deliberate and selective action by the establishment backed in total by the establishment parties who selected some form of moral superiority as the platform upon which to destroy the BNP. In that respect teh BNP were easy meat with plenty of skeletons and old quotes. It is less easy with Reform to find those skeletons, and they have been looking hard, and it is suspected that a bit of creative 'undercover work' was a throw of the dice. The Nationwide support for Reform is the tell tale sign that something is at work different from both the BNP and UKIP. That could be because we are further down the line of British destruction and social media is a much more savvy thing for the exchange of views than the 'establishment' would like. Firstly, Nigel Farage has made a huge pillock of himself this weekend, and now that he's an MP he will be under the microscope, like all prominent MPs, and he will make more blunders. He claimed that the rioting in Leeds was as a result of (quote) "the politics of the subcontinent been played out on our streets". Which of course was a very long way away from both the truth or reality. But apart from making a fool of himself, he has, once again, proven that he can be quick to open his mouth without checking FACTS. Not only is this a sign of a very poor politician, its also a sign of a man who is utterly irresponsible. Such false statements can lead to further tensions, stir up anger based on lies, which of course they were, Such inflamatory and false accusations can cause problems in our citys and communities. NO ONE knows the precise circimstances of what happened in Leeds, except that it did not involve anyone of Asian origin; The issue was a child protection issue involving a Roma family, and appears to have involved people in that community of Harehills objecting to the police and social services from taking a child from its mother. One could very easily find paralells with 1930s Germany or with the attempts of the National Front in trying to stir up trouble in the 1970s, or even Oswald Moseley and his vile "Blackshirts" harrasing Londons Jews. Nigel Farage is a prat, a first class opportunists, attempting to rustle up support on the back of lies, and thankfuly he will never be Primeminister of this country. ------------------------------------------------------ As for the BNP, they were largely destroyed by the Oxygen of Publicity, the final nail in the coffin seems to have been Nick Griffins invite to take part on the BBC s Question Time, where is was well and truly exposed for what he represented. In the end, the vast majority of British people would never contemplate voting for Holocaust deniers, or for political parties whos leaders enjoy nothing better than to dress up in Nazi uniforms. |
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Post by ratcliff on Jul 21, 2024 18:31:48 GMT
The post from C2 above yours addressed to me starts Hey arse hole,Unbelievable level of hypocrisy YOU, despite explanation persisted in referring to me as a liar, which exposed yourself as a hypocritical liar. I posted 'arse hole' thinking you just might get the message, but as a Rightist you just couldn't manage it. If you used to work you must have been a gravedigger with all the holes you continue to dig all by yourself |
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Post by sandypine on Jul 21, 2024 18:35:33 GMT
We have to remember the BNP were destroyed by deliberate and selective action by the establishment backed in total by the establishment parties who selected some form of moral superiority as the platform upon which to destroy the BNP. In that respect teh BNP were easy meat with plenty of skeletons and old quotes. It is less easy with Reform to find those skeletons, and they have been looking hard, and it is suspected that a bit of creative 'undercover work' was a throw of the dice. The Nationwide support for Reform is the tell tale sign that something is at work different from both the BNP and UKIP. That could be because we are further down the line of British destruction and social media is a much more savvy thing for the exchange of views than the 'establishment' would like. Firstly, Nigel Farage has made a huge pillock of himself this weekend, and now that he's an MP he will be under the microscope, like all prominent MPs, and he will make more blunders. He claimed that the rioting in Leeds was as a result of (quote) "the politics of the subcontinent been played out on our streets". Which of course was a very long way away from both the truth or reality. But apart from making a fool of himself, he has, once again, proven that he can be quick to open his mouth without checking FACTS. Not only is this a sign of a very poor politician, its also a sign of a man who is utterly irresponsible. Such false statements can lead to further tensions, stir up anger based on lies, which of course they were, Such inflamatory and false accusations can cause problems in our citys and communities. NO ONE knows the precise circimstances of what happened in Leeds, except that it did not involve anyone of Asian origin; The issue was a child protection issue involving a Roma family, and appears to have involved people in that community of Harehills objecting to the police and social services from taking a child from its mother. One could very easily find paralells with 1930s Germany or with the attempts of the National Front in trying to stir up trouble in the 1970s, or even Oswald Moseley and his vile "Blackshirts" harrasing Londons Jews. Nigel Farage is a prat, a first class opportunists, attempting to rustle up support on the back of lies, and thankfuly he will never be Primeminister of this country. ------------------------------------------------------ As for the BNP, they were largely destroyed by the Oxygen of Publicity, the final nail in the coffin seems to have been Nick Griffins invite to take part on the BBC s Question Time, where is was well and truly exposed for what he represented. In the end, the vast majority of British people would never contemplate voting for Holocaust deniers, or for political parties whos leaders enjoy nothing better than to dress up in Nazi uniforms. "NO ONE knows the precise circimstances of what happened in Leeds, except that it did not involve anyone of Asian origin;" I think perhaps you were looking at different pictures than anyone else as people of Asian origin were apparent in their hundreds and whether or not they were in at the start they were certainly out in force afterwards and were certainly part of the crowd overturning the police car. So Farage made fair comment on what we all could see. As regards the BNP as I have said and keep saying they were easy meat although it took concerted action to bring them down and the BBC QT was part of that concerted action in adopting a format at odds with their usual format and allowing accusations from the audience to go without reply from Griffin. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 21, 2024 18:57:43 GMT
Firstly, Nigel Farage has made a huge pillock of himself this weekend, and now that he's an MP he will be under the microscope, like all prominent MPs, and he will make more blunders. He claimed that the rioting in Leeds was as a result of (quote) "the politics of the subcontinent been played out on our streets"... In which he was quite clearly correct, fiddles. ...One could very easily find paralells with 1930s Germany or with the attempts of the National Front in trying to stir up trouble in the 1970s, or even Oswald Moseley and his vile "Blackshirts" harrasing Londons Jews. Or the current Labour Party, their "Friends in Hamas" and their sympathisers staging hate marches in London every weekend. Honestly, fiddles I'm not sure if you're a troll, a deliberate hypocrite or simply an idiot. Based on your posting history, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt an assume the latter. |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 21, 2024 22:16:09 GMT
“Firstly, Nigel Farage has made a huge pillock of himself this weekend, and now that he's an MP he will be under the microscope, like all prominent MPs, and he will make more blunders.
He claimed that the rioting in Leeds was as a result of (quote) "the politics of the subcontinent been played out on our streets". Which of course was a very long way away from both the truth or reality.”
Wrong continent , right sentiment .
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 22, 2024 7:30:03 GMT
Firstly, Nigel Farage has made a huge pillock of himself this weekend, and now that he's an MP he will be under the microscope, like all prominent MPs, and he will make more blunders. He claimed that the rioting in Leeds was as a result of (quote) "the politics of the subcontinent been played out on our streets"... In which he was quite clearly correct, fiddles. ...One could very easily find paralells with 1930s Germany or with the attempts of the National Front in trying to stir up trouble in the 1970s, or even Oswald Moseley and his vile "Blackshirts" harrasing Londons Jews. Or the current Labour Party, their "Friends in Hamas" and their sympathisers staging hate marches in London every weekend. Honestly, fiddles I'm not sure if you're a troll, a deliberate hypocrite or simply an idiot. Based on your posting history, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt an assume the latter. If the incident which caused the riot in Leeds involved a Roma family, then explain how Farage was "correct" ? The Roma people are European, and in this instance appear to be Romanian, which is not part of the Sub Continent, clearly I am correct, that Farage got his facts completely wrong as per usual. The Labour Party are not "friends" with Hamas, and Hamas are not friends of The Labour Partry, just for your information. If a person, or persons support Pro Palestinian demonstrations, that does not make them pro Hamas, except in the minds of thick people, it simply makes them Pro Palestian. I am pushing back on the utterly ridiculous idea that Nigel Farage is an intelligent, level headed politician; He very clearly makes things up, in order to score cheap political points even if it stirs up racial tensions ... he's a complete prat. |
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Post by sandypine on Jul 22, 2024 7:41:22 GMT
In which he was quite clearly correct, fiddles. Or the current Labour Party, their "Friends in Hamas" and their sympathisers staging hate marches in London every weekend. Honestly, fiddles I'm not sure if you're a troll, a deliberate hypocrite or simply an idiot. Based on your posting history, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt an assume the latter. If the incident which caused the riot in Leeds involved a Roma family, then explain how Farage was "correct" ? The Roma people are European, and in this instance appear to be Romanian, which is not part of the Sub Continent, clearly I am correct, that Farage got his facts completely wrong as per usual. The Labour Party are not "friends" with Hamas, and Hamas are not friends of The Labour Partry, just for your information. If a person, or persons support Pro Palestinian demonstrations, that does not make them pro Hamas, except in the minds of thick people, it simply makes them Pro Palestian. I am pushing back on the utterly ridiculous idea that Nigel Farage is an intelligent, level headed politician; He very clearly makes things up, in order to score cheap political points even if it stirs up racial tensions ... he's a complete prat. You need to ask the question were there a lot of Asian people present at the riots and did they stand up against the police. If yes then that is the politics of the sub continent whether you like it or not. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 22, 2024 7:41:46 GMT
If the incident which caused the riot in Leeds involved a Roma family... Stop glorying in ignorance, fiddles. The Roma originated in India, not Romania. And, from the various media, it can clearly be seen that the majority of rioters were of Asian origin. So how was it that Farage was wrong? |
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