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Post by vlk on Jul 19, 2024 19:25:05 GMT
The pattern is clear. Farage is becoming the opposition-leader. Nobody will care about whoever Indian the Tories pick as their leader.
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 19, 2024 20:58:18 GMT
The pattern is clear. Farage is becoming the opposition-leader. Nobody will care about whoever Indian the Tories pick as their leader. Where do you get this silly odea from? By definition The Opposition is the 2nd largest party (or coalition of parties) in the HoC. Remind me, how many seats does Reform UK have? All The Best
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 19, 2024 21:11:20 GMT
Yes see my correction to my earlier post. And you are a typical Rightist piece of garbage. Edit 16.28: You have made no such correction , no edit , your lie is still in the same post on this thread ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/post/254520He may still be a Tory at heart, he was once a right-wing Tory MP. So when he said he intended to destroy the Conservative PARTY maybe he just thinks the Tory party were not right-wing enough, and what he has in mind is a hard-right Tory party. A Dandelion by any other name?
--------------------------------------- So you ''correct'' your lie only after you've twice been told that your statement of fact was an untruth No gratitude whatsoever from you for me trying to help you out of the deepening hole you'd dug for yourself Then you've got the bare faced cheek to call me a Rightist piece of garbage see2 and "factual accuracy" are seen together about as often as pork-pie at a Bar-Mitzvah. All The Best
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 20, 2024 10:07:00 GMT
Edit 16.28: You have made no such correction , no edit , your lie is still in the same post on this thread ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/post/254520He may still be a Tory at heart, he was once a right-wing Tory MP. So when he said he intended to destroy the Conservative PARTY maybe he just thinks the Tory party were not right-wing enough, and what he has in mind is a hard-right Tory party. A Dandelion by any other name?
--------------------------------------- So you ''correct'' your lie only after you've twice been told that your statement of fact was an untruth No gratitude whatsoever from you for me trying to help you out of the deepening hole you'd dug for yourself Then you've got the bare faced cheek to call me a Rightist piece of garbage see2 and "factual accuracy" are seen together about as often as pork-pie at a Bar-Mitzvah. All The Best The irony.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 20, 2024 10:08:08 GMT
The pattern is clear. Farage is becoming the opposition-leader. Nobody will care about whoever Indian the Tories pick as their leader. Dunno about opposition leader, more like leader full stop.
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 20, 2024 10:43:24 GMT
Interesting highlight showing just how popular Reform were across the country.
If you cannot get over 5% support in a constituency you lose your deposit - this is how many lost deposits by party.
🔴Lab 1 (£500)
🔵Con 25 (£12,500)
🟣Ref 31 (£15,500)
🟡LDs 227 (£113,500)
🟢Grn 229 (£114,500)
That LibDem number is dire.
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Post by see2 on Jul 20, 2024 11:56:13 GMT
Yes see my correction to my earlier post. And you are a typical Rightist piece of garbage. Edit 16.28: You have made no such correction , no edit , your lie is still in the same post on this thread ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/post/254520He may still be a Tory at heart, he was once a right-wing Tory MP. So when he said he intended to destroy the Conservative PARTY maybe he just thinks the Tory party were not right-wing enough, and what he has in mind is a hard-right Tory party. A Dandelion by any other name?
--------------------------------------- So you ''correct'' your lie only after you've twice been told that your statement of fact was an untruth No gratitude whatsoever from you for me trying to help you out of the deepening hole you'd dug for yourself Then you've got the bare faced cheek to call me a Rightist piece of garbage Informed once, did my research 22hrs ago and informed you that I recognised that my claim was wrong, plus, I added an explanation of how I got it wrong. My statement was, as explained a mistake. Come back when you're perfect. You had the bare faced cheek to refer to me as a 'Lefty liar', previously. I have no doubt that may description of you, made in return to your description of me. is far more accurate than your description of me.
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Post by see2 on Jul 20, 2024 12:06:41 GMT
Edit 16.28: You have made no such correction , no edit , your lie is still in the same post on this thread ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/post/254520He may still be a Tory at heart, he was once a right-wing Tory MP. So when he said he intended to destroy the Conservative PARTY maybe he just thinks the Tory party were not right-wing enough, and what he has in mind is a hard-right Tory party. A Dandelion by any other name?
--------------------------------------- So you ''correct'' your lie only after you've twice been told that your statement of fact was an untruth No gratitude whatsoever from you for me trying to help you out of the deepening hole you'd dug for yourself Then you've got the bare faced cheek to call me a Rightist piece of garbage see2 and "factual accuracy" are seen together about as often as pork-pie at a Bar-Mitzvah. All The Best I suffered your stupid comments for far too long on another forum. It is about time you tried being more grown up with your comments.
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Post by see2 on Jul 20, 2024 12:10:29 GMT
see2 and "factual accuracy" are seen together about as often as pork-pie at a Bar-Mitzvah. All The Best The irony. Nope, the stupidity of posters with fixed opinions, i.e. closed minds.
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Post by ratcliff on Jul 20, 2024 13:27:00 GMT
Edit 16.28: You have made no such correction , no edit , your lie is still in the same post on this thread ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/post/254520He may still be a Tory at heart, he was once a right-wing Tory MP. So when he said he intended to destroy the Conservative PARTY maybe he just thinks the Tory party were not right-wing enough, and what he has in mind is a hard-right Tory party. A Dandelion by any other name?
--------------------------------------- So you ''correct'' your lie only after you've twice been told that your statement of fact was an untruth No gratitude whatsoever from you for me trying to help you out of the deepening hole you'd dug for yourself Then you've got the bare faced cheek to call me a Rightist piece of garbage Informed once, did my research 22hrs ago and informed you that I recognised that my claim was wrong, plus, I added an explanation of how I got it wrong. My statement was, as explained a mistake. Come back when you're perfect. You had the bare faced cheek to refer to me as a 'Lefty liar', previously. I have no doubt that may description of you, made in return to your description of me. is far more accurate than your description of me. You still have not edited your factually incorrect post where you lied that Farage was a right wing Tory MP Anyone with any integrity (quite obviously not you) would have posted I ballsed up , Farage was not a Tory MP and I apologize for for the balls up and trying to mislead posters with false information. I will not repeat my untruths and have deleted the relevant info from my post. You've done none of this , you've left your lie in place and I notice that on a different post you have invented an incredible cock and ball story about why you claim that you were ''misled'' (aka lied) . You should have just stated ''I ballsed up, no excuses'' and deleted your lie.
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Post by andrewbrown on Jul 20, 2024 13:29:42 GMT
Interesting highlight showing just how popular Reform were across the country. If you cannot get over 5% support in a constituency you lose your deposit - this is how many lost deposits by party. 🔴Lab 1 (£500) 🔵Con 25 (£12,500) 🟣Ref 31 (£15,500) 🟡LDs 227 (£113,500) 🟢Grn 229 (£114,500) That LibDem number is dire. Of course that's a little irrelevant in a first past the post election. If you don't win the seat it doesn't matter what you scored. Yes, they will lose some deposits, but actually they played the FPTP system very well, hence the six-fold increase in the number of LibDem MPs. Reform scored well overall but only won 5 seats. Now you tell me who was more successful?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2024 13:39:59 GMT
Interesting highlight showing just how popular Reform were across the country. If you cannot get over 5% support in a constituency you lose your deposit - this is how many lost deposits by party. 🔴Lab 1 (£500) 🔵Con 25 (£12,500) 🟣Ref 31 (£15,500) 🟡LDs 227 (£113,500) 🟢Grn 229 (£114,500) That LibDem number is dire. Of course that's a little irrelevant in a first past the post election. If you don't win the seat it doesn't matter what you scored. Yes, they will lose some deposits, but actually they played the FPTP system very well, hence the six-fold increase in the number of LibDem MPs. Reform scored well overall but only won 5 seats. Now you tell me who was more successful? I think the point it shows is that Reform have support above a minimum level across the whole country. I was surprised by those figures.
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Post by andrewbrown on Jul 20, 2024 13:58:57 GMT
Of course that's a little irrelevant in a first past the post election. If you don't win the seat it doesn't matter what you scored. Yes, they will lose some deposits, but actually they played the FPTP system very well, hence the six-fold increase in the number of LibDem MPs. Reform scored well overall but only won 5 seats. Now you tell me who was more successful? I think the point it shows is that Reform have support above a minimum level across the whole country. I was surprised by those figures. Yes, agree, but support across the board doesn't win seats in fptp. I think the only surprise for me is that Labour only lost one deposit. If you read this forum you'd think they were the spawn of Satan!
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Post by see2 on Jul 20, 2024 14:45:44 GMT
Informed once, did my research 22hrs ago and informed you that I recognised that my claim was wrong, plus, I added an explanation of how I got it wrong. My statement was, as explained a mistake. Come back when you're perfect. You had the bare faced cheek to refer to me as a 'Lefty liar', previously. I have no doubt that may description of you, made in return to your description of me. is far more accurate than your description of me. You still have not edited your factually incorrect post where you lied that Farage was a right wing Tory MP Anyone with any integrity (quite obviously not you) would have posted I ballsed up , Farage was not a Tory MP and I apologize for for the balls up and trying to mislead posters with false information. I will not repeat my untruths and have deleted the relevant info from my post. You've done none of this , you've left your lie in place and I notice that on a different post you have invented an incredible cock and ball story about why you claim that you were ''misled'' (aka lied) . You should have just stated ''I ballsed up, no excuses'' and deleted your lie. Hey arse hole, I do not tell lies, I do sometimes make mistakes, problem here is that your inability to understand explanation is typical of rightists which is to some extent understandable as Rightists are less than a full shilling.
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 20, 2024 15:38:07 GMT
see2 and "factual accuracy" are seen together about as often as pork-pie at a Bar-Mitzvah. All The Best I suffered your stupid comments for far too long on another forum. It is about time you tried being more grown up with your comments. Says the poster who said this to another member, in this very thread: Your hypocrisy is astounding, Tony Blair and Boris Johnson level astounding. All The Best
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