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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 4, 2024 21:22:31 GMT
The Red Wall constituencies abandoned Labour and joined the Tories precisely because they had been thrown under the bus by Labour's open door immigration policy. Everyone knows this. All The Best know you are capable of creating your own bullshit when it suits you ^^^ Behave yourself, you are referring to an event created by lies from the Tories, 9 years after Labour left office. You distorting reality for personal reasons is quite distasteful. That's not you then. Which explains why you are wrong... ...yet again. All The Best |
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Post by aristaeus on Jul 5, 2024 10:56:52 GMT
Ezra Levant, a Canadian political activist who is close to ex-EDL leader Tommy Robinson was at Clacton Leisure Centre to see Farage elected MP.
Worrying.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 5, 2024 11:06:41 GMT
Ezra Levant, a Canadian political activist who is close to ex-EDL leader Tommy Robinson was at Clacton Leisure Centre to see Farage elected MP. Worrying. Yeah we are all quaking in our shoes. |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 5, 2024 11:07:52 GMT
Ezra Levant, a Canadian political activist who is close to ex-EDL leader Tommy Robinson was at Clacton Leisure Centre to see Farage elected MP. So what? Doesn't mean Ezra had anything to do with the voters of Clacton. Get over it. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 5, 2024 11:09:42 GMT
Ezra Levant, a Canadian political activist who is close to ex-EDL leader Tommy Robinson was at Clacton Leisure Centre to see Farage elected MP. Worrying. You should be more worried about the anti-Semitism in the Labour Party, Wheiney/Steve.
Another slow day in the echo chamber, I take it?
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 5, 2024 11:36:02 GMT
But anyway, it's congrats to Nigel - well deserved.  |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 5, 2024 11:37:54 GMT
But anyway, it's congrats to Nigel - well deserved. Yes the man of the people. |
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Post by ratcliff on Jul 5, 2024 14:16:02 GMT
There have been three national referenda in the UK where MPs regurgitate whatever the party line is and how they are whipped. What are they doing he rest of the time if referenda are so useful in increasing their own knowledge? If you want to know about polling trends/questions you consult a polling organisation or bookmaker - not an MP I'm still wondering how you believe that being an MP makes you ''better'' informed than others just because there are staff , most businesses/organisations have staff , it's normal Yes it is normal, but not normal for those who learn from whinging about politics to their mates while supping in their local alehouse, or from newspapers like the Mail, Express etc. I had an eye opener 24 years ago. I used to listen to Jimmy Young's phone in programme on the radio while I was driving. A woman phoned in one day commenting on just how awful the Millennium Dome was, giving a number of reasons (opinions) why it was so bad. When she finished Jim asked her if she had visited the Dome, she said no, "but I have read all about it in my newspaper". Now even one individual voting for silly reasons in a referendum, gets away with a vote, that along with the levels of dishonesty on both sides, making the UK a laughing stock in front of the world, is basically why I appose referenda. That some MP may not be worth a carrot, does not alter the fact that as the representatives of many, they do have a responsibility to be politically informed. While many voters do not have such a responsibility. I really do not need obvious advice from you. Answer the question , stop rambling about your mind wanderings Why do YOU believe that having staff makes MPs better informed than non MPs to the extent that YOU believe that all decisions should be left to them without question? |
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Post by ratcliff on Jul 5, 2024 14:25:23 GMT
The Red Wall constituencies abandoned Labour and joined the Tories precisely because they had been thrown under the bus by Labour's open door immigration policy. Everyone knows this. All The Best Intelligent people know you are capable of creating your own bullshit when it suits you ^^^ Behave yourself, you are referring to an event created by lies from the Tories, 9 years after Labour left office. You distorting reality for personal reasons is quite distasteful. You really should try the stage or seek proper professional help for your obsessions You still blame Mrs T for everything and anything you personally disagree with in politics ( and have even done so on this thread) She left office 34 years ago and has been dead for 11 years  |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 5, 2024 19:33:03 GMT
I told you that you seem to have forgotten everything that the Tories have done during the last 5 years. Fortunately the public haven't, and are punishing you for it as we speak. Like dealing with a global pandemic, for instance. Thank god Labour were not in charge for that. Labour supported pretty much everything the Tories wanted to do; and would likely have done similar - as most of the world was doing. Of course Labour might not have pissed quite so much away on dodgy PPE contracts for their mates. All The Best |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 5, 2024 19:36:09 GMT
Like dealing with a global pandemic, for instance. Thank god Labour were not in charge for that. Labour supported pretty much everything the Tories wanted to do; and would likely have done similar - as most of the world was doing. Of course Labour might not have pissed quite so much away on dodgy PPE contracts for their mates. All The Best Maybe but I’m not confident that Labour would have procured PPE quicker than the Tories did. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 5, 2024 19:53:23 GMT
Here's a thought.
Farage supported Liz Truss's Mini-Budget, claiming it was "the best Conservative budget since 1986".
Some people claim there is growing support for Farage and Reform UK's policy set.
Reform UK's economic policy is not hugely dissimilar to Truss's lunacy.
It should, therefore, stand to reason that IF there is support for such economic policy those that espouse it should either gain new seats, or retain existing seats.
However, Liz Truss was ousted, losing one of the largest majorities in this election.
I just do not see any evidence, thus far, of a genuine groundswell of support for Reform UK and their policies.
All The Best
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 5, 2024 19:58:37 GMT
Labour supported pretty much everything the Tories wanted to do; and would likely have done similar - as most of the world was doing. Of course Labour might not have pissed quite so much away on dodgy PPE contracts for their mates. All The Best Maybe but I’m not confident that Labour would have procured PPE quicker than the Tories did. Speed in procuring it is not much to crow about if we have to write-off £1.4 Billion worth of that PPE. Yeah, there was a "gold rush" for PPE. But it strikes me as curious that quite so many friends of the Tories ended up with high-value contracts for supplying shit that was unfit for purpose. All The Best |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 5, 2024 20:01:02 GMT
Here's a thought. Farage supported Liz Truss's Mini-Budget, claiming it was "the best Conservative budget since 1986". Some people claim there is growing support for Farage and Reform UK's policy set. Reform UK's economic policy is not hugely dissimilar to Truss's lunacy. It should, therefore, stand to reason that IF there is support for such economic policy those that espouse it should either gain new seats, or retain existing seats. However, Liz Truss was ousted, losing one of the largest majorities in this election. I just do not see any evidence, thus far, of a genuine groundswell of support for Reform UK and their policies. All The Best Look we don't know to this day why Liz Truss Mini-Budget brought down the World Economy.
But if I had a suspicious nature I'd be very dubious.
I think Liz Truss was the fall guy or in this case the fall girl... she was set up from the get-go I know it, we know it, and the establishment know it.
The Tories were destined to FAIL ... purposely.
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Post by Bentley on Jul 5, 2024 20:03:02 GMT
Maybe but I’m not confident that Labour would have procured PPE quicker than the Tories did. Yeah, there was a "gold rush" for PPE. But it strikes me as curious that quite so many friends of the Tories ended up with high-value contracts for supplying shit that was unfit for purpose. All The Best It is if you are waiting for it. |
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