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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 25, 2024 13:50:28 GMT
On the contrary. Civil Servants are recruited by job adverts in a left wing newspaper. They are all left wing. therefore they do their damned best to thwart and obstruct anything the government tries to do. Inc TSM? 🤔 😂 LOL!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2024 13:54:45 GMT
I think the polls are being manipulated for obvious reasons. Some would like us to believe that our vote for a minority is pointless and to switch back to the two-headed red and blue serpent.
I took part in a poll in the Torygraph which had over 1000 responses (It had only just been started) asking how we'd vote.
It was already on 78% Reform.
If 78% of the people really voted reform, their vote would truly count and it would be a revolution in politics.
Meanwhile Electoral Calculus says 17.8% not 78% so I guess the real answer is somewhere between the two.
Illegitimi non carborundum!
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Post by ratcliff on Jun 25, 2024 14:04:45 GMT
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Post by aristaeus on Jun 25, 2024 14:06:34 GMT
You are aware that the Conservatives have been in power for 14 Years. So they have had the chance to remove any civil servants they thought were too partisan. They chose not to, because by and large the Civil Service is not partisan, they do as instructed by government. All The Best On the contrary. Civil Servants are recruited by job adverts in a left wing newspaper. They are all left wing. therefore they do their damned best to thwart and obstruct anything the government tries to do. Funny, I used to work for the civil service, it wasn't through a left-wing newspaper, and my line manager was a Tory. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 25, 2024 14:10:59 GMT
On the contrary. Civil Servants are recruited by job adverts in a left wing newspaper. They are all left wing. therefore they do their damned best to thwart and obstruct anything the government tries to do. Funny, I used to work for the civil service, it wasn't through a left-wing newspaper, and my line manager was a Tory. Did I ever tell you about my sprained ankle when I tripped on debris walking on the Moon ...  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2024 16:08:15 GMT
second in most polls
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Post by ProVeritas on Jun 25, 2024 16:47:55 GMT
You are aware that the Conservatives have been in power for 14 Years. So they have had the chance to remove any civil servants they thought were too partisan. They chose not to, because by and large the Civil Service is not partisan, they do as instructed by government. All The Best On the contrary. Civil Servants are recruited by job adverts in a left wing newspaper. They are all left wing. therefore they do their damned best to thwart and obstruct anything the government tries to do. I know you have said you were old, but you didn't say senile did you? Doesn't matter where Civil Servants are "recruited". What matters is who appoints them, and who can remove them from position. The answer to both of those questions in Government Ministers. Which government has been in power for 14 years? All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jun 25, 2024 16:49:28 GMT
You have never once presented any evidence for any of the claims you have made. That's because I never made any of them - they only exist in your head. You've never made any claim, anywhere on this Forum, ever? Mmmm, senile as well as racist.... All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jun 25, 2024 16:51:53 GMT
What, you mean employees seek redress when asked to do something illegal by an employer, or when treated at odds with UK employment law? Can't imagine why.... All The Best |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2024 17:01:13 GMT
The more Reform rise the more this establishment exposes itself as a corrupt junta. I guess we should also be thanking Graham Brady for helping to expose the establishment left in his corrupt party, whether it was intentional or not. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 25, 2024 17:17:37 GMT
The debate should be between those who have a chance of being prime minister. And let's face it both SNP and LibDems will get more MPs than Reform, so it's either the 2 or all 7. Actually I might have a sneaky bet on Plaid having more MPs than Reform... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2024 17:20:21 GMT
The debate should be between those who have a chance of being prime minister. And let's face it both SNP and LibDems will get more MPs than Reform, so it's either the 2 or all 7. Actually I might have a sneaky bet on Plaid having more MPs than Reform... Why should it be between two nearly identical lying shytsters? The world doesn't revolve around you and you have no idea what the actual results will be. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 25, 2024 17:32:26 GMT
The debate should be between those who have a chance of being prime minister. And let's face it both SNP and LibDems will get more MPs than Reform, so it's either the 2 or all 7. Actually I might have a sneaky bet on Plaid having more MPs than Reform... Why should it be between two nearly identical lying shytsters? The world doesn't revolve around you and you have no idea what the actual results will be. That's an argument for all 7 leaders. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2024 17:37:42 GMT
Why should it be between two nearly identical lying shytsters? The world doesn't revolve around you and you have no idea what the actual results will be. That's an argument for all 7 leaders. In your mind, but in the real world we're quoting something that suggests Reform could beat the Tories. I think it's obvious that Sunak doesn't represent the right, and just appears to be a controlled opposition for Labour. I can understand why Labour and the BBC wouldn't want to upset that arrangement, especially when this establishment thought it was a certainty that they sucked the life out of this country and that we'd all be EUphiles.
I want to see Starmer stand up to Farage.
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Post by see2 on Jun 25, 2024 18:03:12 GMT
If you read the article, what conclusion did you reach and how did you reach your conclusion? The conclusion I reached was that Farage was open to all discussions and that in general there are people who do not think that is right. As regards Sandy Hook specifically the point was a general one as regards all the cases against him (Jones) and in general 'liberals' spend much of their time being 'illiberal'. Which was a fair point in the discussion.. The other conclusion I reached was that there is a desperation now to trawl through Farage's history to come up with something, anything, that can be used to smear. We can easily see this because of 'appeared' which is a get out instead of saying directly 'did'. Perhaps on legal advice. He voiced and agreed with Putin's excuse for invading Ukraine. He was a leading liar during the 2016 referendum. He had the manners of an ignorant spoilt child in his attack on Van Rompuy in the EUP in 2010. He has always been a plonka. |
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