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Post by Pacifico on Jun 23, 2024 21:11:11 GMT
Of course he is the leader of a protest movement - if the Conservative Government had not implemented left-wing policies and thus lost their core support Reform would not be needed. He is a serious political leader because he fills a vacuum in the spectrum - as do the Green Party. But nobody really expects the Green manifesto to be enacted do they? Of course I can perfectly understand why some people would rather concentrate on the Reform spending plans rather than those of Labour...  Reform contract was a joke and deserved to be torn apart if he cant stand the heat stay out of the kitchen. As I said - I can perfectly understand why you would want to shift attention from Labours proposals - far safer to concentrate on the policies of a Party that are not going to be anywhere near a position of power. What are you trying to hide? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 23, 2024 21:18:02 GMT
Exactly. Those that want scrutiny on Reform aren't happy when they get it. Quelle surprise. FWIW I agree with Pacifico that they're a protest movement. As such I can't see his argument on the leaders debate. The Greens are a serious political party. Possibly because I never made any argument on the Leaders debate. I have not watched any of them so I wouldn't have a clue who took part - one of the joys of calling an election at the same time as the major football competition in Europe. And the idea that the Greens are a serious Party yet Reform are not could only be made by someone who knows nothing about the Greens - the latest gem from them is their leader admitting at their candidates don't have to support their manifesto. So a serious political party? - only to those who like clown shows. Haven't you? So you're not bothered about why Reform were not represented? |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 23, 2024 21:24:14 GMT
Possibly because I never made any argument on the Leaders debate. I have not watched any of them so I wouldn't have a clue who took part - one of the joys of calling an election at the same time as the major football competition in Europe. And the idea that the Greens are a serious Party yet Reform are not could only be made by someone who knows nothing about the Greens - the latest gem from them is their leader admitting at their candidates don't have to support their manifesto. So a serious political party? - only to those who like clown shows. Haven't you? So you're not bothered about why Reform were not represented? I just said I have no idea who was in what debate. I saw a clip of Farage in one debate and he wiped the floor with the questioner - what debate that was I have no idea. I feel the one on one interviews were more informative - poor old Nick Robinson tried to corner Farage but was so skewered he ended up wittering on some irrelevance about the King. But tbh that is like shooting fish in a barrel. Farage is like Galloway and there are very few interviewers around today who can hold their own against them - they are light years ahead of Sunak and Starmer and the media just cannot cope. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 23, 2024 21:31:52 GMT
Haven't you? So you're not bothered about why Reform were not represented? I just said I have no idea who was in what debate. I saw a clip of Farage in one debate and he wiped the floor with the questioner - what debate that was I have no idea. I feel the one on one interviews were more informative - poor old Nick Robinson tried to corner Farage but was so skewered he ended up wittering on some irrelevance about the King. But tbh that is like shooting fish in a barrel. Farage is like Galloway and there are very few interviewers around today who can hold their own against them - they are light years ahead of Sunak and Starmer and the media just cannot cope. Oh well, thanks for your admission that you don't know what's going on. FWIW I agree with you on 1-2-1 interviews, we get a better feeling of what they stand for. |
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Post by wapentake on Jun 23, 2024 21:41:53 GMT
Exactly. Those that want scrutiny on Reform aren't happy when they get it. Quelle surprise. FWIW I agree with Pacifico that they're a protest movement. As such I can't see his argument on the leaders debate. The Greens are a serious political party. Possibly because I never made any argument on the Leaders debate. I have not watched any of them so I wouldn't have a clue who took part - one of the joys of calling an election at the same time as the major football competition in Europe. And the idea that the Greens are a serious Party yet Reform are not could only be made by someone who knows nothing about the Greens - the latest gem from them is their leader admitting at their candidates don't have to support their manifesto.
So a serious political party? - only to those who like clown shows.Well strictly speaking and mirroring their ideals the flowerpot men would be more in keeping and instead of a speaker in the HoC we should have little weed …..bobblelop  |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 23, 2024 21:50:15 GMT
I just said I have no idea who was in what debate. I saw a clip of Farage in one debate and he wiped the floor with the questioner - what debate that was I have no idea. I feel the one on one interviews were more informative - poor old Nick Robinson tried to corner Farage but was so skewered he ended up wittering on some irrelevance about the King. But tbh that is like shooting fish in a barrel. Farage is like Galloway and there are very few interviewers around today who can hold their own against them - they are light years ahead of Sunak and Starmer and the media just cannot cope. Oh well, thanks for your admission that you don't know what's going on. FWIW I agree with you on 1-2-1 interviews, we get a better feeling of what they stand for. Well the only area where i don't know what is going on is your continued assertions that I have made complaints about something when I have not.. ..perhaps you need to look in the mirror? |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 23, 2024 21:51:47 GMT
Possibly because I never made any argument on the Leaders debate. I have not watched any of them so I wouldn't have a clue who took part - one of the joys of calling an election at the same time as the major football competition in Europe. And the idea that the Greens are a serious Party yet Reform are not could only be made by someone who knows nothing about the Greens - the latest gem from them is their leader admitting at their candidates don't have to support their manifesto.
So a serious political party? - only to those who like clown shows.Well strictly speaking and mirroring their ideals the flowerpot men would be more in keeping and instead of a speaker in the HoC we should have little weed …..bobblelop The Green manifesto perfectly encapsulated - apparently it is something to be taken serious account of... |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jun 24, 2024 1:17:53 GMT
No I didn't; I showed the EXACT opposite: the Candidate himself admitted there was no threat made against him. I ONLY call people liars when I can demonstrate they have lied. All The Best However, after rumours of protests and fears for safety, David Robert Burgess-Joyce, candidate for the Reform Party in Wallasey, cancelled the meeting.
He was worried enough to cancel his meeting.
Stop covering up lefty thug scum bags, it says more about you than the people who are highlighting their thuggery.
You made a very specific claim: So far you've shown JUST ONE. You made no mention of "meetings cancelled". I am not defending anything, except the truth - something you seem to have a very tenuous relationship with. You quite clearly lied; why not just admit it? All The Best |
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Post by Totheleft on Jun 24, 2024 2:23:07 GMT
Reform contract was a joke and deserved to be torn apart if he cant stand the heat stay out of the kitchen. As I said - I can perfectly understand why you would want to shift attention from Labours proposals - far safer to concentrate on the policies of a Party that are not going to be anywhere near a position of power. What are you trying to hide? Hide ive nothing to hide i enjoy laughing at the Circus Reform especially coco the clown Farage lol. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 24, 2024 2:44:27 GMT
‘I’ve killed him’: David Amess murder was last act of two-year plot A TORY MPAli Harbi Ali had long been looking for an MP to assassinate before stabbing Amess at church surgery Yes, and can you admit that right wing people also make death threats against Labour MPs? This isn't a partisan issue. Why are you refusing to admit it? I've stated both left and right wing people make death threats, and it's always wrong. Your turn, can you admit this is a problem on both sides? Hello Darling, Einy or whatever other pseudonym you go by. |
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Post by Totheleft on Jun 24, 2024 2:50:20 GMT
Yes, and can you admit that right wing people also make death threats against Labour MPs? This isn't a partisa6n issue. Why are you refusing to admit it? I've stated both left and right wing people make death threats, and it's always wrong. Your turn, can you admit this is a problem on both sides? Hello Darling, Einy or whatever other pseudonym you go by. Artious was a member of the old forum long before darling was a member. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2024 5:16:15 GMT
The "lots" part is the lie. I am not saying the case around Simon Danczuk is a lie, it clearly isn't. But you claimed: So far we have just ONE. The "lots" claim is quite clearly a lie, and I suggest you knew it was lie when you made it. All The Best How can someone define a 'lie' when they never tell the truth.
You yourself provide proof a Reform candidate from Merseyside had also been made death threats, so that's TWO that we know of, you spend nearly every post calling posters who don't agree with you 'Liars' ... change the fuckin record.... if that's the best you can do .... Liar Liar Liar ... you sound like a right tit.
Keep in mind the Labour lot on here are in bed with Hamas supporters and other Islamist groups, like BLM.
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Post by see2 on Jun 24, 2024 6:36:54 GMT
Hang on, didn't you complain about Farage being left out of the debate the other night? Either he's a serious political leader, or he's a leader of a protest movement. Which is it? Of course he is the leader of a protest movement - if the Conservative Government had not implemented left-wing policies and thus lost their core support Reform would not be needed. He is a serious political leader because he fills a vacuum in the spectrum - as do the Green Party. But nobody really expects the Green manifesto to be enacted do they? Of course I can perfectly understand why some people would rather concentrate on the Reform spending plans rather than those of Labour... The conservative government implemented THEIR OWN POLICIES. Stop twisting things into an attack on the left. Which exposes the duplicity of the Tories and their supporters. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 24, 2024 6:45:14 GMT
Of course he is the leader of a protest movement - if the Conservative Government had not implemented left-wing policies and thus lost their core support Reform would not be needed. He is a serious political leader because he fills a vacuum in the spectrum - as do the Green Party. But nobody really expects the Green manifesto to be enacted do they? Of course I can perfectly understand why some people would rather concentrate on the Reform spending plans rather than those of Labour... The conservative government implemented THEIR OWN POLICIES. Stop twisting things into an attack on the left. Which exposes the duplicity of the Tories and their supporters. OK - just for you. The Tories implemented their own policies which were a copy of left-wing policies.. Happy now? |
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Post by Dogburger on Jun 24, 2024 6:46:34 GMT
In effect any party that is not in government is a protest party .But we live in a representative democracy and the party that has a chance of forming the opposition should be given equal opportunity in any debate . I kind of agree with you, but does Reform have an opportunity of forming the opposition? Well come the 4th of July we will find out but polling for what its worth would suggest they have a chance . Reform are just a couple of points behind the Tories (telegraph) and thats after a weekend of Farage bashing across the media after the Ukraine comments were dug up . The soppy bird on GMTV was continuing the attack this morning with regard the Ukraine comment then going on (without drawing breath ) saying Brexit has failed and Farage didn't spend £250M on the NHS . Well whatever you think of what he said about Ukraine and Brexit ,He was right about Ukraine and the NHS claim was Boris so nothing to do with Farage even if he was in a position to do anything about it . But once you say it its out there and the gullible lock it into their daft heads and go and vote Labour because in their minds Farage is a Putin appeaser and didn't spend the £250M . This is the sort of press we had to deal with at UKIP in the run up to 2016 and why they retaliated in kind with daft claims like the population of Turkey was on its way . So Reform needs some good press this week ,along with a boost of some bad news for the other parties . I think it may get dirty ,hold onto your hats ! |
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