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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 23, 2024 12:10:46 GMT
Whether you agree with 20mph limits or not, it has nothing to do with diversity. It's all part of the same thing, the US inspired left wing ideology of woke, BLM, gender, DEI, it's sweeping through the British establishment and institutions and the reason it's being imposed is because most people don't like it and don't want it. Forcing people to accept 20mph speed limits, diversity or any other aspect of woke, is manna from heaven for people like Nigel Farage. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jun 23, 2024 12:15:30 GMT
They seem to think that if they keep repeating it we'll start believing it. LOL! If I was to rely on objectivity I could argue that on this forum it's perfectly OK for their sock-accounts to state that the youngsters who were slaughtered by Hamas in a terrorist attack all "reaped what they sow". And that this is perfectly acceptable to post during the terrorist attack, just as it's OK to post that and use multiple accounts on here. It's a three month ban on here if you post something bad about Muslims, though. Apparently, that actually upsets Andrewbrown, Vinny and the establishment. Any evidence of that, or is it another of your "made up facts"? All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jun 23, 2024 12:16:54 GMT
Who are the anti-democrats? Reform UK is a privately owned business, and so Reform "MPs" (if any are elected) are actually employees of Nigel Farage, and so not subject to the same level of democratic accountability as MPs of other parties. Farage could remove them on a whim by simply sacking them, thereby undermining the Democratic Process. Even Farage himself admits it is not a Political Party and alleges that it will "democratise over time" - indicating that it is NOT democratic right now. ReformUK accepts donations, and as the 53% Majority Shareholder Farage is a) unaccountable to the Party, which, unlike all other Political parties, has no Membership to hold the leadership to account, and b) able to do with that money whatever the hell he wants. So it would seem the anti-democrats ARE ReformUK. All The Best Probably the same folk who cheered when Farage was de-banked. Let's not forgot, I am conversing with a poster who doesn't believe the UK is democratic. It is impossible for a Constitutional Hereditary Monarchy to Democratic. Democracy and Hereditary Monarchy are mutually exclusive. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jun 23, 2024 12:20:46 GMT
I don't see that view, if a candidate for Reform is elected he/she becomes an MP, if Farage then chooses to "sack" him/her from Reform that person then becomes an Independent MP, so why did you say otherwise. I think tha Farage will have come under the most detailed scrutiny since the Brexit days, and no one has come up with anything, no fiddled expenses, no 20 year old tweets, no betting on elections, absolutely nothing, that is why nonsense like this is being peddled, simply because there is nothing else. Because that hypothetical MP was almost certainly elected on a ReformUK Tickets by Constituents who supported ReformUK policies. And now, thanks to the one man dictatorship that is ReformUK they have an Independent. Thus the Democratic Mandate given by those Constituents has been denied. I have long argued that an MP (of any and all parties) resigning the whip, having the whip withdrawn, or crossing the house should trigger an immediate By-Election. All The Best |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2024 12:21:25 GMT
Whether you agree with 20mph limits or not, it has nothing to do with diversity. It's all part of the same thing, the US inspired left wing ideology of woke, BLM, gender, DEI, it's sweeping through the British establishment and institutions and the reason it's being imposed is because most people don't like it and don't want it. Forcing people to accept 20mph speed limits, diversity or any other aspect of woke, is manna from heaven for people like Nigel Farage. The UK is basically led by the likes of the WEF and the WHO. Everything else is just management. The USA dominated since WW2, but this has been moving toward globalism that wants to destroy nations and bring about an international Orwellian Socialist system. Blair devolved and divided the country as per instruction. Powers around the world are spending trillions arming up and preparing to fight for dominance in this new era.
There's only one man who can save us (Americanism) and that's Superman, or Nigel if you're on a first name basis.
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Post by ProVeritas on Jun 23, 2024 12:24:34 GMT
No. They'll get a handful of seats, if that. Farage has admitted that it wasn't a serious document. It has quite rightly been pulled apart as such. The point that I was making though was in response to Fairsociety's question about why Reform's spending was under more scrutiny than Labour's. The fact that it is not a serious document is part of the reason, along with the fact that Reform were proposing MORE spending than Labour. His further response that Labour will spend it all on diversity is the sort of garbage on this forum that isn't really worthy of further comment. He is of course entitled to his own opinion. Why is it all garbage when this is exactly what Labour is going to do? Reform has spiced things up and may even increase turnouts, which are incredibly low because the establishment is clearly totalitarian. The establishment media will of course try and protect the LabCon system, which is what we're witnessing.
Can you point to the Labour Manifesto Pledge that states that all revenues will be spent on diversity please? Because such a statement would certainly impact my tactical voting intentions away from Labour. Of all the Political Parties out there only ONE is run, and owned, by a single person, so only one is capable of being totalitarian - ReformUK. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jun 23, 2024 12:26:02 GMT
It's all part of the same thing, the US inspired left wing ideology of woke, BLM, gender, DEI, it's sweeping through the British establishment and institutions and the reason it's being imposed is because most people don't like it and don't want it. Forcing people to accept 20mph speed limits, diversity or any other aspect of woke, is manna from heaven for people like Nigel Farage. The UK is basically led by the likes of the WEF and the WHO. Everything else is just management. The USA dominated since WW2, but this has been moving toward globalism that wants to destroy nations and bring about an international Orwellian Socialist system. Blair devolved and divided the country as per instruction. Powers around the world are spending trillions arming up and preparing to fight for dominance in this new era.
There's only one man who can save us (Americanism) and that's Superman, or Nigel if you're on a first name basis.
Globalism / Globalisation is the Neo-Liberal Capitalist desired end-point. About as far from socialism as it is possible to get. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jun 23, 2024 12:29:02 GMT
You can see how the establishment need shills like Witchfinder to repeatedly post lies as truth during an election campaign. This blatant misrepresentation by the establishment and shills are desperately trying to put the brakes on Reform and Farage. These people never learn. Truth has become an act of revolution. Truth has ALWAYS been an act of revolution. What was it Pushkin said: " Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths"? All The Best |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 23, 2024 12:33:16 GMT
It's all part of the same thing, the US inspired left wing ideology of woke, BLM, gender, DEI, it's sweeping through the British establishment and institutions and the reason it's being imposed is because most people don't like it and don't want it. Forcing people to accept 20mph speed limits, diversity or any other aspect of woke, is manna from heaven for people like Nigel Farage. The UK is basically led by the likes of the WEF and the WHO. Everything else is just management. The USA dominated since WW2, but this has been moving toward globalism that wants to destroy nations and bring about an international Orwellian Socialist system. Blair devolved and divided the country as per instruction. Powers around the world are spending trillions arming up and preparing to fight for dominance in this new era.
There's only one man who can save us (Americanism) and that's Superman, or Nigel if you're on a first name basis.
I agree. As people are increasingly forced to accept this left wing woke insanity from both the Tories and Labour, the more popular Farage will become. It's inevitable. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 23, 2024 12:39:54 GMT
Truth has become an act of revolution. Truth has ALWAYS been an act of revolution. What was it Pushkin said: " Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths"? All The Best Perhaps that is why the disciples of woke believe - "Feelings are more important than the truth"Here to help. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 23, 2024 12:45:14 GMT
The UK is basically led by the likes of the WEF and the WHO. Everything else is just management. The USA dominated since WW2, but this has been moving toward globalism that wants to destroy nations and bring about an international Orwellian Socialist system. Blair devolved and divided the country as per instruction. Powers around the world are spending trillions arming up and preparing to fight for dominance in this new era.
There's only one man who can save us (Americanism) and that's Superman, or Nigel if you're on a first name basis.
Globalism / Globalisation is the Neo-Liberal Capitalist desired end-point. About as far from socialism as it is possible to get. All The Best When I pointed out to Darling that every socialist government has failed, he told me that they were all the wrong kind of socialism..or not true socialism ( one or the other ) . So imo the term is meaningless unless you use it in a very narrow dictionary sense. However people do use the term to mean a controlled society . As was pointed out by Hitchens , the West realised that ‘ socialism ‘ will never be realised by storming public buildings and utilities so that are stealing the media and education facilities. Globalisation means loss of national and ethnic identity , a controlled society that is taught what to think instead of how to think by the establishment. So while you are patting yourself on the back because you think you winning every semantic argument , just bear that in mind . |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 23, 2024 12:46:10 GMT
Truth has become an act of revolution. Truth has ALWAYS been an act of revolution. What was it Pushkin said: " Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths"?... And you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the arse, Nulla. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2024 12:47:55 GMT
Truth has ALWAYS been an act of revolution. What was it Pushkin said: " Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths"?... And you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the arse, Nulla. I can't even be bothered to press the view post button. I think I'd rather waste time discussing linguistics with ToTheLeft. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 23, 2024 12:48:25 GMT
Truth has ALWAYS been an act of revolution. What was it Pushkin said: " Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths"? All The Best Perhaps that is why the disciples of woke believe - "Feelings are more important than the truth"Here to help. Indeed. Woke us a belief system rather than a political one . Otherwise you would not have homosexuals manically supporting a society that would murder them for being homosexual and women supporting men who pretend that they are women . |
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Post by om15 on Jun 23, 2024 13:09:11 GMT
Yes I agree with you, that is the right thing to do, but I can't see that Farage withdrawing the whip is any different to Starmer withdrawing the whip from say Abbott, or Sunal withdrawing the whip from Lee Anderson, any leader can "sack" an MP if he/she chooses to do so, the type of legal entity of any particular Party is irrelevant.
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