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Post by sheepy on Jun 22, 2024 17:47:31 GMT
Except dear plebs he only told the truth, as painful as you might find it after the constant lies.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 22, 2024 17:48:30 GMT
Exactly. What I am now seeing are Starmer supporting anti-Israel Hamas boys in bed with EUphiles, who are now supporting Rishi Sunak and pushing wild allegations that Farage is Putin's puppet, because he pointed out what will happen long before it did happen. No, because Farage used Putin's dishonest excuses for the invasion of Ukraine, thus giving support to Putin. Proving just what a disaster Farage is. No that is a lie.  |
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Post by witchfinder on Jun 22, 2024 17:58:31 GMT
Most posters on here do not understand the culture of the opposition to Soviet history and Russian domination in places such as Georgia, Ukraine or Moldova, or the culture of the resistance movement in Belarus. For them, the Council of Europe Flag ( otherwise known as the flag of the EU ) is a potent symbol of not only resistance, but also of a desire for freedom from Russian influence and control. Nigel Farage and anyone who supports his Quisling-like opinions which vilify the West, NATO and the European Union are no friends or supporters of freedom, the rule of law, democracy or the principle of self determination. When the people of Belarus attempted to rise up against their dictatorship, their symbol was the flag of Europe, just as it is for the people of Ukraine and the people of Georgia, because to them it represents a Europe of free nations, of liberal societies with freedom of expression. Not only is Farage wrong, but he is now an embaressment to the UK, drawing attention from mainstream Ukrainian media, in a country where people genuinely thought Britain was a good friend thanks to Boris Johnson and others, many Ukrainians dont understand. Farage is a modern day Lord Haw Haw, walking in the footsteps of Oswald Moseley, not a true patriot of Britain, or of all the things that Britain stands for, he s a disgrace. www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE_jfOj52a4 |
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Post by om15 on Jun 22, 2024 18:03:57 GMT
This is what Nigel Farage has said,
“I am not and never have been an apologist or supporter of Putin. His invasion of Ukraine was immoral, outrageous and indefensible. As a champion of national sovereignty, I believe that Putin was entirely wrong to invade the sovereign nation of Ukraine.
“But that doesn’t change the fact that I saw it coming a decade ago, warned that it was coming and am one of the few political figures who has been consistently right and honest about Russia’s Ukraine war.”
Mr Farage added: “What I have been saying for the past 10 years is that the West has played into Putin’s hands, giving him the excuse to do what he wanted to do anyway.”
I find it strange that people can't understand that, for Sunak and Starmer to be politically disingenuous in order to discredit him is understandable, but for ordinary people to think this means something else is wilful misinterpretation or further demonstration of our failing education system.
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Post by Bentley on Jun 22, 2024 18:05:33 GMT
Most posters on here do not understand the culture of the opposition to Soviet history and Russian domination in places such as Georgia, Ukraine or Moldova, or the culture of the resistance movement in Belarus. For them, the Council of Europe Flag ( otherwise known as the flag of the EU ) is a potent symbol of not only resistance, but also of a desire for freedom from Russian influence and control. Nigel Farage and anyone who supports his Quisling-like opinions which vilify the West, NATO and the European Union are no friends or supporters of freedom, the rule of law, democracy or the principle of self determination. When the people of Belarus attempted to rise up against their dictatorship, their symbol was the flag of Europe, just as it is for the people of Ukraine and the people of Georgia, because to them it represents a Europe of free nations, of liberal societies with freedom of expression. Not only is Farage wrong, but he is now an embaressment to the UK, drawing attention from mainstream Ukrainian media, in a country where people genuinely thought Britain was a good friend thanks to Boris Johnson and others, many Ukrainians dont understand. Farage is a modern day Lord Haw Haw, walking in the footsteps of Oswald Moseley, not a true patriot of Britain, or of all the things that Britain stands for, he s a disgrace. www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE_jfOj52a4Calm down dear .😁 |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 22, 2024 18:07:38 GMT
This is what Nigel Farage has said, “I am not and never have been an apologist or supporter of Putin. His invasion of Ukraine was immoral, outrageous and indefensible. As a champion of national sovereignty, I believe that Putin was entirely wrong to invade the sovereign nation of Ukraine.
“But that doesn’t change the fact that I saw it coming a decade ago, warned that it was coming and am one of the few political figures who has been consistently right and honest about Russia’s Ukraine war.”
Mr Farage added: “What I have been saying for the past 10 years is that the West has played into Putin’s hands, giving him the excuse to do what he wanted to do anyway.”I find it strange that people can't understand that, for Sunak and Starmer to be politically disingenuous in order to discredit him is understandable, but for ordinary people to think this means something else is wilful misinterpretation or further demonstration of our failing education system. They don’t want to understand that . They want to ignore that and carry on spouting the kind of crap that Witchy has posted. No matter how many times you repeat it |
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Post by bancroft on Jun 22, 2024 18:10:14 GMT
I don't think Farage is a Quisling, just pointing out that if you mess about in the backyard of a superpower it is going to get messy, not a surprise. He is then saying this lack of foresight has launched the cost of living crisis.
Now he can say this as a small political party yet the big parties won't as they back the NATO line.
I've said before Farage does not understand major power politics.
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Post by sheepy on Jun 22, 2024 18:13:24 GMT
Most posters on here do not understand the culture of the opposition to Soviet history and Russian domination in places such as Georgia, Ukraine or Moldova, or the culture of the resistance movement in Belarus. For them, the Council of Europe Flag ( otherwise known as the flag of the EU ) is a potent symbol of not only resistance, but also of a desire for freedom from Russian influence and control. Nigel Farage and anyone who supports his Quisling-like opinions which vilify the West, NATO and the European Union are no friends or supporters of freedom, the rule of law, democracy or the principle of self determination. When the people of Belarus attempted to rise up against their dictatorship, their symbol was the flag of Europe, just as it is for the people of Ukraine and the people of Georgia, because to them it represents a Europe of free nations, of liberal societies with freedom of expression. Not only is Farage wrong, but he is now an embaressment to the UK, drawing attention from mainstream Ukrainian media, in a country where people genuinely thought Britain was a good friend thanks to Boris Johnson and others, many Ukrainians dont understand. Farage is a modern day Lord Haw Haw, walking in the footsteps of Oswald Moseley, not a true patriot of Britain, or of all the things that Britain stands for, he s a disgrace. www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE_jfOj52a4Hogwash, you were warned constantly about ethnic cleansing of Russians, Farage has never said anything different, the only bit is, Vlad took the step which nobody thought he would dare, but then if anyone had bothered listening instead of thinking how superior they are, he may have never done so. Will the EU and the yanks as well as the British establishment take any responsibility for it, not a chance. |
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Post by witchfinder on Jun 22, 2024 18:22:11 GMT
Most posters on here do not understand the culture of the opposition to Soviet history and Russian domination in places such as Georgia, Ukraine or Moldova, or the culture of the resistance movement in Belarus. For them, the Council of Europe Flag ( otherwise known as the flag of the EU ) is a potent symbol of not only resistance, but also of a desire for freedom from Russian influence and control. Nigel Farage and anyone who supports his Quisling-like opinions which vilify the West, NATO and the European Union are no friends or supporters of freedom, the rule of law, democracy or the principle of self determination. When the people of Belarus attempted to rise up against their dictatorship, their symbol was the flag of Europe, just as it is for the people of Ukraine and the people of Georgia, because to them it represents a Europe of free nations, of liberal societies with freedom of expression. Not only is Farage wrong, but he is now an embaressment to the UK, drawing attention from mainstream Ukrainian media, in a country where people genuinely thought Britain was a good friend thanks to Boris Johnson and others, many Ukrainians dont understand. Farage is a modern day Lord Haw Haw, walking in the footsteps of Oswald Moseley, not a true patriot of Britain, or of all the things that Britain stands for, he s a disgrace. www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE_jfOj52a4Hogwash, you were warned constantly about ethnic cleansing of Russians, Farage has never said anything different, the only bit is, Vlad took the step which nobody thought he would dare, but then if anyone had bothered listening instead of thinking how superior they are, he may have never done so. Will the EU and the yanks as well as the British establishment take any responsibility for it, not a chance. And your link(s) or evidence of this so called "ethnic cleansing of Russians" ? |
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Post by sheepy on Jun 22, 2024 18:24:40 GMT
Hogwash, you were warned constantly about ethnic cleansing of Russians, Farage has never said anything different, the only bit is, Vlad took the step which nobody thought he would dare, but then if anyone had bothered listening instead of thinking how superior they are, he may have never done so. Will the EU and the yanks as well as the British establishment take any responsibility for it, not a chance. And your link(s) or evidence of this so called "ethnic cleansing of Russians" ? There are tons of it, or you are in denial, take your pick. |
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Post by witchfinder on Jun 22, 2024 18:40:17 GMT
And your link(s) or evidence of this so called "ethnic cleansing of Russians" ? There are tons of it, or you are in denial, take your pick. Yes, ok, so there are tons of it then So go on then - lets see some please ? |
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Post by witchfinder on Jun 22, 2024 18:42:57 GMT
At no point ever, was there any ethnic cleansing of either Ukrainians of Russian background ( ethnic Russians ), or of Russian speakers in Ukraine.
You cannot produce any evidence or links, because there isn't any, because it never happened.
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Post by sheepy on Jun 22, 2024 18:43:25 GMT
There are tons of it, or you are in denial, take your pick. Yes, ok, so there are tons of it then So go on then - lets see some please ? How about being told 9 years ago? |
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Post by sandypine on Jun 22, 2024 18:45:14 GMT
and THIS from SKY News .... Has Nigel Farage made his first blunder of the election campaign? His incendiary claim that the West provoked the war in Ukraine will be offensive to many people. It may make some of those Conservative supporters considering switching to Reform UK on 4 July think again. And a clarification in a late-night tweet appearing to row back from his earlier claims in a TV interview suggests he may have realised he went too far. My brother is a true red lefty Corbyn supporter and he agrees that Farage hit the nail on the head. He will never support Farage but he is honest in his assessment. Remember the US still ostracises Cuba because they had the temerity to seek assistance outside the US sphere of influence. Despite Cuba being 90 miles away from the US it was still referred to as the US backyard.Ukraine is a matter of inches away from Russia. It is what superpowers do. |
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Post by sheepy on Jun 22, 2024 18:54:57 GMT
What the actual problem is the Farage has done what he is known for and attacked the establishment, which by the way has put him a commanding second place while he is still rising in the polls, so as per usual Labour and the conservatives are crapping themselves.
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