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Post by witchfinder on Jun 22, 2024 12:32:23 GMT
Farage ‘playing into Putin’s hands’ with Ukraine claims, says Sunak Reform leader’s ‘appeasement’ of Russian president is danger to security of Britain and allies, PM says
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Sometimes I agree with the Tories
Boris Johnson was correct about the Russia - Ukraine war, as was David Cameron, as is Rishi Sunak.
As is Sir Keir Starmer and Jo Biden, also President Marcon and Chancellor Scholz, as is all the leaders of the Baltic nations and of Poland, Sweden Finland and all those nations which were once under the heal of the Soviet Union, but are now free.
Sorry Nige ( Putins Pet Poodle ) Your on your own
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 22, 2024 13:04:44 GMT
Sorry, but Germany's initial reaction to the Russian invasion was to send 5000 fucking helmets in support for Ukraine, and who can forget Macron's plan to offer Ukraine on a plate in the style of 'Finlandisation'.
The only thing the EU decisively did when Russia initially invaded Ukraine was to ban Russia from the Eurovision Song Contest. lol
Boris led the way while the EU dithered. That's not Farage's point. He pointed out a decade ago what would happen and history has proven him right.
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Post by jonksy on Jun 22, 2024 13:39:31 GMT
Sorry, but Germany's initial reaction to the Russian invasion was to send 5000 fucking helmets in support for Ukraine, and who can forget Macron's plan to offer Ukraine on a plate in the style of 'Finlandisation'. The only thing the EU decisively did when Russia initially invaded Ukraine was to ban Russia from the Eurovision Song Contest. lol Boris led the way while the EU dithered. That's not Farage's point. He pointed out a decade ago what would happen and history has proven him right. Its a good job von de liar had got kicked out in Germany as they would have only had broom handles to send to the Ukraine.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2024 13:56:33 GMT
Farage ‘playing into Putin’s hands’ with Ukraine claims, says Sunak Reform leader’s ‘appeasement’ of Russian president is danger to security of Britain and allies, PM says UK election live – latest updates ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Sometimes I agree with the Tories Boris Johnson was correct about the Russia - Ukraine war, as was David Cameron, as is Rishi Sunak. As is Sir Keir Starmer and Jo Biden, also President Marcon and Chancellor Scholz, as is all the leaders of the Baltic nations and of Poland, Sweden Finland and all those nations which were once under the heal of the Soviet Union, but are now free. Sorry Nige ( Putins Pet Poodle ) Your on your own Right about what?
Farage was correct as seen by the events that unfolded. Telling the truth and maintaining that truth doesn't make somebody anyone's puppet. Obviously you're telling lies because that's what you do, tell lies.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2024 14:02:42 GMT
Sorry, but Germany's initial reaction to the Russian invasion was to send 5000 fucking helmets in support for Ukraine, and who can forget Macron's plan to offer Ukraine on a plate in the style of 'Finlandisation'. The only thing the EU decisively did when Russia initially invaded Ukraine was to ban Russia from the Eurovision Song Contest. lol Boris led the way while the EU dithered. That's not Farage's point. He pointed out a decade ago what would happen and history has proven him right. Exactly. What I am now seeing are Starmer supporting anti-Israel Hamas boys in bed with EUphiles, who are now supporting Rishi Sunak and pushing wild allegations that Farage is Putin's puppet, because he pointed out what will happen long before it did happen.
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Post by witchfinder on Jun 22, 2024 15:04:32 GMT
In terms of which countries have given the most help to Ukraine bares no relation to the matter at hand .. namely that it is both NATO s fault and the EU s fault that Russia launched a completely unprovoked attack on Ukraine and is attempting to thieve Ukrainian land, according to Farage.
HOWEVER, and for the record, overall Germany has given Ukraine roughly about the same level of military assistance ( equipment and hardware ) as the UK, and when you add in financial and humanitarian assistance, Germany is ahead of the UK.
But its not a competition, and should not be seen as such
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Post by see2 on Jun 22, 2024 16:02:05 GMT
Sorry, but Germany's initial reaction to the Russian invasion was to send 5000 fucking helmets in support for Ukraine, and who can forget Macron's plan to offer Ukraine on a plate in the style of 'Finlandisation'. The only thing the EU decisively did when Russia initially invaded Ukraine was to ban Russia from the Eurovision Song Contest. lol Boris led the way while the EU dithered. That's not Farage's point. He pointed out a decade ago what would happen and history has proven him right. I followed the situation from the start of the demonstrations by the people of the Ukraine in 2013. Given the understanding that Putin tried very hard to buy Ukraine's cooperation, in order to place the Ukraine inside the Russian sphere of influence, and failed, along with Russia's violent history of invasion against surrounding countries, I immediately forecast a violent reaction from Russia, all because Putin didn't get his own way. And that was late in 2013. And I was proven correct when Russia annexed Crimea in Feb. 2014, who is Farage kidding? Certainly not me or I suspect many others. But it is good propaganda for himself. It wasn't difficult and must have been seen if not forecast by many people. And of course the EU and some EU countries have let it be known (and sent help) to the Ukraine, that the EU is behind the good, the right, and the trustworthy people of the Ukraine. Who are fighting against a first class tyrant in Putin.
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Post by see2 on Jun 22, 2024 16:07:42 GMT
Sorry, but Germany's initial reaction to the Russian invasion was to send 5000 fucking helmets in support for Ukraine, and who can forget Macron's plan to offer Ukraine on a plate in the style of 'Finlandisation'. The only thing the EU decisively did when Russia initially invaded Ukraine was to ban Russia from the Eurovision Song Contest. lol Boris led the way while the EU dithered. That's not Farage's point. He pointed out a decade ago what would happen and history has proven him right. Exactly. What I am now seeing are Starmer supporting anti-Israel Hamas boys in bed with EUphiles, who are now supporting Rishi Sunak and pushing wild allegations that Farage is Putin's puppet, because he pointed out what will happen long before it did happen. No, because Farage used Putin's dishonest excuses for the invasion of Ukraine, thus giving support to Putin. Proving just what a disaster Farage is.
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Post by see2 on Jun 22, 2024 16:11:27 GMT
Sorry, but Germany's initial reaction to the Russian invasion was to send 5000 fucking helmets in support for Ukraine, and who can forget Macron's plan to offer Ukraine on a plate in the style of 'Finlandisation'. The only thing the EU decisively did when Russia initially invaded Ukraine was to ban Russia from the Eurovision Song Contest. lol Boris led the way while the EU dithered. That's not Farage's point. He pointed out a decade ago what would happen and history has proven him right. Its a good job von de liar had got kicked out in Germany as they would have only had broom handles to send to the Ukraine. Its just sad the jonksyliar isn't kicked out for his childish deceptive posts.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2024 16:26:27 GMT
Exactly. What I am now seeing are Starmer supporting anti-Israel Hamas boys in bed with EUphiles, who are now supporting Rishi Sunak and pushing wild allegations that Farage is Putin's puppet, because he pointed out what will happen long before it did happen. No, because Farage used Putin's dishonest excuses for the invasion of Ukraine, thus giving support to Putin. Proving just what a disaster Farage is. This only proves the fact that you're either completely ignorant or a liar. Outside of your brainwashed establishment bubble this was being discussed 20 years ago. All Farage has done is come out to say that he was right, which he was. Now we get to see the establishment parties coming together as one-party to condemn, what seems to be, the only real opposition and one that puts his neck on the line to tell and maintain the truth.
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Post by Dogburger on Jun 22, 2024 16:32:33 GMT
Exactly. What I am now seeing are Starmer supporting anti-Israel Hamas boys in bed with EUphiles, who are now supporting Rishi Sunak and pushing wild allegations that Farage is Putin's puppet, because he pointed out what will happen long before it did happen. No, because Farage used Putin's dishonest excuses for the invasion of Ukraine, thus giving support to Putin. Proving just what a disaster Farage is. No he didn't ,he said the EU and NATO (well the USA) gave Putin a reason to invade Ukraine . If anyone had listened to him 10 years ago Russia would not have invaded and Ukraine would be intact and at peace . A long way from being a disaster ,more like someone who has a good idea of the international picture unlike supposed world leaders who think they know better
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 22, 2024 16:47:22 GMT
Its a good job von de liar had got kicked out in Germany as they would have only had broom handles to send to the Ukraine. Its just sad the jonksyliar isn't kicked out for his childish deceptive posts. Shame that you're not for your moronic trolling.
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Post by witchfinder on Jun 22, 2024 17:24:15 GMT
and THIS from SKY News ....
Has Nigel Farage made his first blunder of the election campaign?
His incendiary claim that the West provoked the war in Ukraine will be offensive to many people.
It may make some of those Conservative supporters considering switching to Reform UK on 4 July think again.
And a clarification in a late-night tweet appearing to row back from his earlier claims in a TV interview suggests he may have realised he went too far.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 22, 2024 17:26:02 GMT
I doubt that anyone other than rabid lefties will care, but we'll see.
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Post by Dogburger on Jun 22, 2024 17:41:44 GMT
and THIS from SKY News .... Has Nigel Farage made his first blunder of the election campaign? His incendiary claim that the West provoked the war in Ukraine will be offensive to many people. It may make some of those Conservative supporters considering switching to Reform UK on 4 July think again. And a clarification in a late-night tweet appearing to row back from his earlier claims in a TV interview suggests he may have realised he went too far. Its obvious the MSM would be after Farage at some point and play anything they could get their hands on in a direction in attempt to discredit him . Some not so aware may fall for it , anyone thats been paying attention have known for 10 years what Farage said and what he meant . I dont think he has gone too far at all and I don't suppose he thinks that either . People have been asking for years for more truth and honesty from politicians , well here it is .
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