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Post by Dubdrifter on Jun 20, 2024 21:22:29 GMT
Looks like Nigel is doing OK in the Polls …
Looks like the BBC are running scared … not to include him in a leadership debate … is sure to win him even more votes …
VOTE REFORM … and kick the Establishment in the BOLLOCKS …. for decades of NON-representation.
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Post by ProVeritas on Jun 21, 2024 0:42:14 GMT
Countries around the globe that are not in ECHR also have workers rights How many of them are proposing to repeal the legislation that affords those rights? All The Best |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 21, 2024 4:34:14 GMT
Ahem: None of which has anything to do with the ECHR of 1951. So it seems that it is you who's talking bollocks as usual, Nulla. Actually all of those are enshrined in the ECHR. Do you actually ever know what it is you are talking about. All The Best The ECHR wasn't enshrined in our domestic law until the HRA of 1998 (which didn't come fully into effect until 2000).
Prior to then it was accepted, internationally, that UK domestic law already met or exceeded the requirements of the ECHR.
Do you actually ever know what it is you're talking about?
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 21, 2024 6:56:21 GMT
Countries around the globe that are not in ECHR also have workers rights How many of them are proposing to repeal the legislation that affords those rights? All The Best They rely on domestic legislation not membership of an external organisation - there is no reason why the UK would be any different. The ECHR came into being in 1953 - the first UK Legislation guaranteeing workers rights was introduced in 1833. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jun 21, 2024 7:50:51 GMT
How many of them are proposing to repeal the legislation that affords those rights? All The Best They rely on domestic legislation not membership of an external organisation - there is no reason why the UK would be any different.The ECHR came into being in 1953 - the first UK Legislation guaranteeing workers rights was introduced in 1833. Really? In 14 years of Government the Tories have: All but made it illegal to go on strike, by enacting laws that, if they were applied to elections, would mean the Tories would never have been elected Made collective bargaining harder by giving employers the right to "not recognise a trade union" Made it harder for wrongfully dismissed employees to access Lega Aid, meaning less employers are held accountable for wrongful dismissal They have also repeatedly expressed the view that Worker's Rights need reducing. Farage is even more Right-Wing than the extreme Right-Wing of the Tories; if he gets into power there will be a full scale bonfire of Worker's Rights. Both the Right of the Tory Party and Farage want "less red tape" on Businesses - this will certainly include Worker's Rights - so they can engage in a race to the bottom for employment legislation. All The Best |
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Post by om15 on Jun 21, 2024 9:56:27 GMT
Which particular "workers rights" are you concerned about, the "right" to work from home, take unsubstantiated amounts of sick leave when Wimbledon is on, the right to not employ white working class boys, the right to make girls share toilets with men, or the right to insert apostrophes into to plurals.
Having once been a member of the AUEW and having seen what this nonsense can do to industry I can only wish Nigel Farage the best of luck.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 21, 2024 11:02:02 GMT
They rely on domestic legislation not membership of an external organisation - there is no reason why the UK would be any different.The ECHR came into being in 1953 - the first UK Legislation guaranteeing workers rights was introduced in 1833. Really? In 14 years of Government the Tories have: All but made it illegal to go on strike, by enacting laws that, if they were applied to elections, would mean the Tories would never have been elected Made collective bargaining harder by giving employers the right to "not recognise a trade union" Made it harder for wrongfully dismissed employees to access Lega Aid, meaning less employers are held accountable for wrongful dismissal They have also repeatedly expressed the view that Worker's Rights need reducing. Well none of that can be true as you have just claimed that membership of the ECHR protects workers rights. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 21, 2024 12:05:10 GMT
They rely on domestic legislation not membership of an external organisation - there is no reason why the UK would be any different.The ECHR came into being in 1953 - the first UK Legislation guaranteeing workers rights was introduced in 1833. Really? In 14 years of Government the Tories have: All but made it illegal to go on strike, by enacting laws that, if they were applied to elections, would mean the Tories would never have been elected Made collective bargaining harder by giving employers the right to "not recognise a trade union" Made it harder for wrongfully dismissed employees to access Lega Aid, meaning less employers are held accountable for wrongful dismissal They have also repeatedly expressed the view that Worker's Rights need reducing. Farage is even more Right-Wing than the extreme Right-Wing of the Tories; if he gets into power there will be a full scale bonfire of Worker's Rights. Both the Right of the Tory Party and Farage want "less red tape" on Businesses - this will certainly include Worker's Rights - so they can engage in a race to the bottom for employment legislation. All The Best LOL! Supports freedom of movement and mass, unconstrained immigration while accusing others of engaging in a race to the bottom of employment standards.🤣 |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 21, 2024 12:23:18 GMT
This is Farage on drugs. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kit9mOtIRyE* He does not know * He thinks because he does not know he needs a royal commission to decide * He says it does not make much difference because the law is not enforced * He say he would decide by looking at America * It's all he has to say on the matter (gasp!) * He omits Reform's manifesto promise of handing out life sentences for it. * He then talks about Russia is bad because it is aligned with bad man Kim Jong Un where there is no freedom, and we have to fight for that freedom in order to create peace. * He also points out medically it is bad for you long term. The irony that a life sentence could also be bad for you long term escapes his reasoning. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 21, 2024 12:25:59 GMT
So no better or worse than any other politician then.
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Post by om15 on Jun 21, 2024 12:30:38 GMT
I have listened to what has been said, read what has been written and considered the options, this morning I posted my postal vote with my selection made. The local Reform candidate is an HGV driver from the Blackmoor Vale ( he used to drive road trains in Australia), he seems an ideal candidate for Foreign Secretary, so my vote is cast for Reform, I have voted Tory for 54 years.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 21, 2024 12:42:44 GMT
The problem is on the one hand polls say overwhelmingly that the country believes in Farage agaisnt anyone else. He is the top favourite as a person. It's a rerun of the Johnson scenario. It works great until you actually get these people to make real decisions of great importance which affects the country. Any loose reasoning will show up as some sort of disaster. This is the time when the public gets in touch with reality.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 21, 2024 12:50:34 GMT
This is Farage on drugs. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kit9mOtIRyE* He does not know * He thinks because he does not know he needs a royal commission to decide * He says it does not make much difference because the law is not enforced * He say he would decide by looking at America * It's all he has to say on the matter (gasp!) * He omits Reform's manifesto promise of handing out life sentences for it. * He then talks about Russia is bad because it is aligned with bad man Kim Jong Un where there is no freedom, and we have to fight for that freedom in order to create peace. * He also points out medically it is bad for you long term. The irony that a life sentence could also be bad for you long term escapes his reasoning. Oh well that's that then ...... Farage knows nothing about the drug fraternity so he wont make a good leader.......  |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jun 21, 2024 13:20:46 GMT
This is Farage on drugs. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kit9mOtIRyE* He does not know * He thinks because he does not know he needs a royal commission to decide * He says it does not make much difference because the law is not enforced * He say he would decide by looking at America * It's all he has to say on the matter (gasp!) * He omits Reform's manifesto promise of handing out life sentences for it. * He then talks about Russia is bad because it is aligned with bad man Kim Jong Un where there is no freedom, and we have to fight for that freedom in order to create peace. * He also points out medically it is bad for you long term. The irony that a life sentence could also be bad for you long term escapes his reasoning. Oh well that's that then ...... Farage knows nothing about the drug fraternity so he wont make a good leader....... Well that's strange isn't it, because anyone who knows Farage knows the pub plays a central role in his profession. What if he said to the publican during his campaigning that Reform were offering his profession life sentences. After all there is strong evidence that alcohol has long term damaging effects, especially to the liver. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 21, 2024 13:22:51 GMT
The problem is on the one hand polls say overwhelmingly that the country believes in Farage agaisnt anyone else. He is the top favourite as a person. It's a rerun of the Johnson scenario. It works great until you actually get these people to make real decisions of great importance which affects the country. Any loose reasoning will show up as some sort of disaster. This is the time when the public gets in touch with reality. Starmer is still stumped on two simple questions
1. Define a woman... he say 99% of woman haven't got a penis ..... LOL
2. Did you say in 2019 Corbyn would make a good Prime Minister?
So if Starmer can't answer two simple questions, it puts Farage in a good place.
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