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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 30, 2024 11:53:18 GMT
The error you make is looking for something exclusively Right-Wing. Oh, exclusively right wing. LOL! So you can't acttually name anything de-facto right wing, then. Nationalism is more often Right Wing than Left. Is it? Other than according to a random lefty on Wikipedia without any evidential basis. Authoritarianism is more often Right Wing than Left... LOL! Never heard of the USSR or the PRC, Nulla? ...if the Nazis were actually socialist it would have been strange for them to arrest and inter in concentration camps the prominent members of both the Communist and Social Democratic Parties... Never heard of the Gulags, Nulla? The Soviets disappeared hundreds of thousands of their left wing opponents in similar ways. So sorry but your post is almost wholly subjective left wing nonsense. So I'll ask again: What did the National Socialists do that was actually, objectively right wing? Define "Objectively Right Wing". All The Best |
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Post by sandypine on Jul 30, 2024 11:57:38 GMT
Sorry, you wrote this: What something is called is 100% wholly irrelevant; what it DOES, HOW it FUNCTIONS determines what it actually is The UK functions as a parliamentary democracy. No ifs or buts. But it doesn't. The Monarch still has to sign acts into law, the Monarch still has to dissolve Parliament, the Monarch still has the right to deny an elected party the right to form a new government. That you are can't, or won't, see that does not make me wrong. All The Best I suppose the operative part is 'functions'. Having a right and not using it against the will of the people is not the same as exercising that right. So it functions as a democracy even if Constitutional power is seated elsewhere. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 30, 2024 12:13:38 GMT
But it doesn't. The Monarch still has to sign acts into law, the Monarch still has to dissolve Parliament, the Monarch still has the right to deny an elected party the right to form a new government. That you are can't, or won't, see that does not make me wrong. All The Best I suppose the operative part is 'functions'. Having a right and not using it against the will of the people is not the same as exercising that right. So it functions as a democracy even if Constitutional power is seated elsewhere. It Functions as a Monarchy. The Monarch exercises the FUNCTION of signing Acts Of Parliament into Law. The Monarch exercised the FUNCTION of Dissolving Parliament. The Monarch exercises the FUNCTION of approving a new Parliament. The Monarch still exercises those Rights, that is the Rights still Function. Can Parliament be dissolved without the Monarch CHOOSING to do so? Can a new Parliament be installed without the Monarch CHOOSING to do so? Can an Act of Parliament become law without the Monarch CHOOSING to do so? The answer to all three of those is NO. Ergo we function as a Monarchy. Our Democracy is really only an advisory process. All The Best |
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Post by sandypine on Jul 30, 2024 12:27:36 GMT
I suppose the operative part is 'functions'. Having a right and not using it against the will of the people is not the same as exercising that right. So it functions as a democracy even if Constitutional power is seated elsewhere. It Functions as a Monarchy. The Monarch exercises the FUNCTION of signing Acts Of Parliament into Law. The Monarch exercised the FUNCTION of Dissolving Parliament. The Monarch exercises the FUNCTION of approving a new Parliament. The Monarch still exercises those Rights, that is the Rights still Function. Can Parliament be dissolved without the Monarch CHOOSING to do so? Can a new Parliament be installed without the Monarch CHOOSING to do so? Can an Act of Parliament become law without the Monarch CHOOSING to do so? The answer to all three of those is NO. Ergo we function as a Monarchy. Our Democracy is really only an advisory process. All The Best You are confusing a noun and a verb. To function with the conjugation 'functions' indicates how operations are carried out, a function is a specific act that can be carried out. The question is will the monarch carry out all the functions above or will he decline to carry out a function. It seems that he will carry out the functions as above and therefore we function as a democracy. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 30, 2024 12:34:01 GMT
It Functions as a Monarchy. The Monarch exercises the FUNCTION of signing Acts Of Parliament into Law. The Monarch exercised the FUNCTION of Dissolving Parliament. The Monarch exercises the FUNCTION of approving a new Parliament. The Monarch still exercises those Rights, that is the Rights still Function. Can Parliament be dissolved without the Monarch CHOOSING to do so? Can a new Parliament be installed without the Monarch CHOOSING to do so? Can an Act of Parliament become law without the Monarch CHOOSING to do so? The answer to all three of those is NO. Ergo we function as a Monarchy. Our Democracy is really only an advisory process. All The Best You are confusing a noun and a verb. To function with the conjugation 'functions' indicates how operations are carried out, a function is a specific act that can be carried out. The question is will the monarch carry out all the functions above or will he decline to carry out a function. It seems that he will carry out the functions as above and therefore we function as a democracy. In a Democracy the electorate has supreme authority. That is not the case in this country. All The Best |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 30, 2024 12:44:47 GMT
Oh, exclusively right wing. LOL! So you can't acttually name anything de-facto right wing, then. Is it? Other than according to a random lefty on Wikipedia without any evidential basis. LOL! Never heard of the USSR or the PRC, Nulla? Never heard of the Gulags, Nulla? The Soviets disappeared hundreds of thousands of their left wing opponents in similar ways. So sorry but your post is almost wholly subjective left wing nonsense. So I'll ask again: What did the National Socialists do that was actually, objectively right wing? Define "Objectively Right Wing". All The Best Nope. You keep bandying it around, you define it. |
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Post by buccaneer on Jul 30, 2024 13:04:48 GMT
Sorry, you wrote this: What something is called is 100% wholly irrelevant; what it DOES, HOW it FUNCTIONS determines what it actually is The UK functions as a parliamentary democracy. No ifs or buts. But it doesn't. The Monarch still has to sign acts into law, the Monarch still has to dissolve Parliament, the Monarch still has the right to deny an elected party the right to form a new government. That you are can't, or won't, see that does not make me wrong. All The Best It functions as a parliamentary democracy. So, it's either that or you're backtracking on your own words. You don't get to have your cake and eat it. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 30, 2024 13:07:00 GMT
Define "Objectively Right Wing". All The Best Nope. You keep bandying it around, you define it. The only time I have used those three words in conjunction is to quote you. You used it first, you should define it. Of course, you won't; your abject dishonesty won't permit it. If it were defined and I managed to show such a thing you could not then claim "ah, but that is lefty" - which is really all you ever say. All The Best |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 30, 2024 13:07:44 GMT
Nulla backtracking?
Say it ain't so.🤣
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 30, 2024 13:08:09 GMT
But it doesn't. The Monarch still has to sign acts into law, the Monarch still has to dissolve Parliament, the Monarch still has the right to deny an elected party the right to form a new government. That you are can't, or won't, see that does not make me wrong. All The Best So, it's either that or you're backtracking on your own words. You don't get to have your cake and eat it. NO IT DOESN'T That you can't, or won't, accept that does not make me wrong; it makes you either dumb or delusional. All The Best |
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Post by buccaneer on Jul 30, 2024 13:10:53 GMT
It functions as a parliamentary democracy. So, it's either that or you're backtracking on your own words. You don't get to have your cake and eat it. NO IT DOESN'T That you can't, or won't, accept that does not make me wrong; it makes you either dumb or delusional. All The Best YES IT DOES. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 30, 2024 13:12:38 GMT
Nope. You keep bandying it around, you define it. The only time I have used those three words in conjunction is to quote you. You used it first, you should define it. Of course, you won't; your abject dishonesty won't permit it. If it were defined and I managed to show such a thing you could not then claim "ah, but that is lefty" - which is really all you ever say. All The Best Nope, you used it first. So do stop lying, Nulla. I can and will define right wing for you, when appropriate. But for now let's hear what you think it is. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 30, 2024 14:08:58 GMT
The only time I have used those three words in conjunction is to quote you. You used it first, you should define it. Of course, you won't; your abject dishonesty won't permit it. If it were defined and I managed to show such a thing you could not then claim "ah, but that is lefty" - which is really all you ever say. All The Best Nope, you used it first. Provide evidence. Or we'll all know that, as usual, you are lying to try and save an argument you have already lost. All The Best |
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Post by sandypine on Jul 30, 2024 14:10:05 GMT
Nope. You keep bandying it around, you define it. The only time I have used those three words in conjunction is to quote you. You used it first, you should define it. Of course, you won't; your abject dishonesty won't permit it. If it were defined and I managed to show such a thing you could not then claim "ah, but that is lefty" - which is really all you ever say. All The Best Why do we not just try defining Right Wing? You have used that several times here so that should be easy for you including exclusively Right Wing. Once we can define that then we can progress on to objectively Right Wing which seems on the face of it to mean that from an objective point of view something is Right Wing. If you cannot define them there is not much point in using them. |
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Post by sandypine on Jul 30, 2024 14:13:12 GMT
You are confusing a noun and a verb. To function with the conjugation 'functions' indicates how operations are carried out, a function is a specific act that can be carried out. The question is will the monarch carry out all the functions above or will he decline to carry out a function. It seems that he will carry out the functions as above and therefore we function as a democracy. In a Democracy the electorate has supreme authority. That is not the case in this country. All The Best Now do you mean supreme legal authority? |
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