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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 28, 2024 23:25:42 GMT
Well that is a historical fact. It is OK when you go back a 1000 years to show Jews as victims, when I go back a little bit further and show them as oppressors that is suddenly wrong? Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. Read my signature, oh fuck it, I'll quote it for you just in case you are too dumb to find it on your own: Are you willing to endorse that statement? All The Best My point was not just true, it was relevant history. Going back thousands of years to a period when wars were commonplace, and not giving any understanding of the reasons, whys or wherefores of the conflicts makes no sense whatsoever. No, because it ignores cause and effect. I did give whys or wherefores. Prior to the rise of Monotheistic Judaism the religion of the region was polytheistic. The Monotheistic Jews did to the people they oppressed into Monotheism the exact same as Christianity did when it spread by the sword and bribe through Europe. Proselyting Monotheistic religions ALWAYS revert to violence and oppression to "spread the word". Judaism, Christianity, Islam all followed the same methodology; because they are three rotten fruits from the same rotten tree. All The Best |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 29, 2024 6:37:17 GMT
But only one of them is still doing it.
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 29, 2024 11:06:55 GMT
But only one of them is still doing it. Really? Judaism isn't doing it in Palestine? And does no longer doing it absolve one of the crimes of the past? All The Best |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 29, 2024 11:42:55 GMT
But only one of them is still doing it. Really? Judaism isn't doing it in Palestine? And does no longer doing it absolve one of the crimes of the past? All The Best Israel is defending itself. We should take a leaf out of their book. |
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Post by see2 on Jul 29, 2024 12:05:54 GMT
My point was not just true, it was relevant history. Going back thousands of years to a period when wars were commonplace, and not giving any understanding of the reasons, whys or wherefores of the conflicts makes no sense whatsoever. No, because it ignores cause and effect. I did give whys or wherefores. Prior to the rise of Monotheistic Judaism the religion of the region was polytheistic. The Monotheistic Jews did to the people they oppressed into Monotheism the exact same as Christianity did when it spread by the sword and bribe through Europe. Proselyting Monotheistic religions ALWAYS revert to violence and oppression to "spread the word". Judaism, Christianity, Islam all followed the same methodology; because they are three rotten fruits from the same rotten tree. All The Best So now you are pretending to fully understand the full picture of conflicts that took place thousands of years ago, and that you have explained that situation fully. Do you have proof that all religion / emotional beliefs thousands of years ago, were treated and accepted equally? Or that there was never any conflict over territory? You appear to assume that the Jews had no right to defend their own territory. Christianity did not have official backing until (Roman) 381 and certainly didn't have a Christian army at that stage. AFAIA Christian armies for the purpose of defense and conversion arose as a reaction to the spread of Islamic invasions that began more than 300 years later. So your last comment looks like just another attempt to make the Jews look bad despite the fact that the Jews were forbidden to carry weapons for around 1400 years (even though often being butchered) because they were 'The Dhimmi'. A position imposed on them by Muhammad. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 29, 2024 14:28:09 GMT
Really? Judaism isn't doing it in Palestine? And does no longer doing it absolve one of the crimes of the past? All The Best Israel is defending itself. We should take a leaf out of their book. Are not the Gazans and Palestinians also defending themselves? All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 29, 2024 14:31:54 GMT
I did give whys or wherefores. Prior to the rise of Monotheistic Judaism the religion of the region was polytheistic. The Monotheistic Jews did to the people they oppressed into Monotheism the exact same as Christianity did when it spread by the sword and bribe through Europe. Proselyting Monotheistic religions ALWAYS revert to violence and oppression to "spread the word". Judaism, Christianity, Islam all followed the same methodology; because they are three rotten fruits from the same rotten tree. All The Best So now you are pretending to fully understand the full picture of conflicts that took place thousands of years ago, and that you have explained that situation fully. Do you have proof that all religion / emotional beliefs thousands of years ago, were treated and accepted equally? Or that there was never any conflict over territory? You appear to assume that the Jews had no right to defend their own territory. Christianity did not have official backing until (Roman) 381 and certainly didn't have a Christian army at that stage. AFAIA Christian armies for the purpose of defense and conversion arose as a reaction to the spread of Islamic invasions that began more than 300 years later. So your last comment looks like just another attempt to make the Jews look bad despite the fact that the Jews were forbidden to carry weapons for around 1400 years (even though often being butchered) because they were 'The Dhimmi'. A position imposed on them by Muhammad. Then you are wrong. I suggest you go study history, rather than psychobabble. The Invading Christian Army under Charlemagne that carried out the unconscionable Verden Massacre did so to force people to convert, not because of some non existent Islamic threat. Funny how toy ALWAYS try to blame Islam though - the façade is slipping. All The Best |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2024 14:56:58 GMT
Talking of Nigel Farage. He did stand for Parliament. He won and is now an MP.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 29, 2024 15:26:23 GMT
Israel is defending itself. We should take a leaf out of their book. Are not the Gazans and Palestinians also defending themselves? All The Best Not on October 7th they weren't. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 29, 2024 17:06:27 GMT
Are not the Gazans and Palestinians also defending themselves? All The Best Not on October 7th they weren't. I agree. But the same is not true of every day that has passed since Oct 7th. All The Best |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 29, 2024 17:36:33 GMT
Not on October 7th they weren't. I agree. But the same is not true of every day that has passed since Oct 7th. All The Best I really don't care. Vast swathes of otherwise sensible people are suffering some kind of Stockholm Syndrome when it comes to aggressive, self-entitled muslims. When Israel defends itself vs aggressive, self-entitled muslims who murdered a thousand people in tbe most barbaric way, it suddenly becomes Israels fault. When three cops are hospitalised by aggressive, self-entitled muslims, it suddenly becomes the fault of the police. Appeasement is an insidious, creeping sickness. And it needs to stop. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Jul 29, 2024 19:14:04 GMT
I agree. But the same is not true of every day that has passed since Oct 7th. All The Best I really don't care. Vast swathes of otherwise sensible people are suffering some kind of Stockholm Syndrome when it comes to aggressive, self-entitled muslims. When Israel defends itself vs aggressive, self-entitled muslims who murdered a thousand people in tbe most barbaric way, it suddenly becomes Israels fault. When three cops are hospitalised by aggressive, self-entitled muslims, it suddenly becomes the fault of the police. Appeasement is an insidious, creeping sickness. And it needs to stop. Yes, I agree, appeasement is an insidious sickness. We most certainly should NOT appease those of other faiths, whichever their faith, who come here and think they should be treated differently, because of their faith. However, the rejection of appeasement should not stop there. We should also not appease Israel in their desire for the utter destruction of Palestine, and the ongoing illegal theft of Palestinian land. We should also not appease those deluded people who think unaccountable Police brutality is acceptable. All The Best |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 29, 2024 19:35:09 GMT
Don't be daft, Nulla.
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Post by Bentley on Jul 29, 2024 20:27:06 GMT
How are we ‘ appeasing ‘ Israel?
Israel is in a war in a continent.Where were all the hand wringers when Muslim were slaughtering other Muslims or when the slaughter occurs in Africa ?
The virtue signal brigade choose who they condemn very carefully .
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Post by see2 on Jul 30, 2024 7:11:00 GMT
Israel is defending itself. We should take a leaf out of their book. Are not the Gazans and Palestinians also defending themselves? All The Best If they were, they would be doing something to neutralize the Hamas terrorist group that live amongst them, instead or which they appear to support them. |
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