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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 2, 2024 16:10:08 GMT
This is going to totally piss off the DM bashers, it was the Daily Mail Headline ..... "Tommy Robinson football hooligans protesters" ..... headline that sparked the most fury ..... the DM had to REMOVE the headline when general members of the public including, NHS workers, school teachers, shop workers, builders, just about every industry had people marching 'peacefully' in 'STAND UP FOR BRITAIN' protest march ... 'furious' that the DM labeled them 'football hooligans' ....... LOL
Wonder if the DM bashers will all of a sudden support that bias rag.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2024 16:38:07 GMT
This is going to totally piss off the DM bashers, it was the Daily Mail Headline ..... "Tommy Robinson football hooligans protesters" ..... headline that sparked the most fury ..... the DM had to REMOVE the headline when general members of the public including, NHS workers, school teachers, shop workers, builders, just about every industry had people marching 'peacefully' in 'STAND UP FOR BRITAIN' protest march ... 'furious' that the DM labeled them 'football hooligans' ....... LOL Wonder if the DM bashers will all of a sudden support that bias rag. The DM have many writers, so you can get very different narratives depending who is doing the writing. Those at the Guardian are all braindead student drones who aren't capable of such diversity. However, I agree, it's a dreadful headline and does demonstrate that there is an active campaign against the good people of this country. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 3, 2024 9:45:13 GMT
B4, the Tories will regroup. A period in opposition may not be a bad thing, believe me I don't want a Labour government but lets face it, when was the last time we had a Conservative government. I think after five years of a Labour government the country will be crying out for change, and the Tories will come back as a proper centre right Conservative party, the centrist liberals who have dominated the party since 2010 will be long gone. You will get waffle and a fake opposition to try and keep up the charade. The only thing the Tories managed to do was the EU referendum, but this was heavily forced by the fact that UKIP dominated the EU elections, and when Leave won the Tories tried to sabotage after McCameron stood down to play Lord Snot. If you want something different then you shouldn't be wasting your time on any of the establishment mainstream parties. I assume you're talking about Reform UK. It's a tough one, I'd like to vote Reform but I cant help thinking that a vote for Reform is essentially a vote for Labour because Reform voters will obviously be disillusioned Tory voters not Labour voters. My heart says Reform, but for all their faults, my head says Tory. |
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Post by piglet on Jun 3, 2024 9:57:58 GMT
Im a tory, a thatcherite, its in all of our interests for the tories to be out. Labour will as usual self destruct, its inevitable. It does not matter who you vote for as long as its not tory, im voting reform. Lets hope the tories become tories, im not hopeful.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2024 10:51:40 GMT
You will get waffle and a fake opposition to try and keep up the charade. The only thing the Tories managed to do was the EU referendum, but this was heavily forced by the fact that UKIP dominated the EU elections, and when Leave won the Tories tried to sabotage after McCameron stood down to play Lord Snot. If you want something different then you shouldn't be wasting your time on any of the establishment mainstream parties. I assume you're talking about Reform UK. It's a tough one, I'd like to vote Reform but I cant help thinking that a vote for Reform is essentially a vote for Labour because Reform voters will obviously be disillusioned Tory voters not Labour voters. My heart says Reform, but for all their faults, my head says Tory. Most of the heavyweights have either defected or are standing down. Tories are nothing more than an illusion of opposition being filled with the same braindrained assimilated youth as the other establishment parties. I say follow your heart if it's trying to tell you something.
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Post by Handyman on Jun 3, 2024 11:06:11 GMT
Does it matter what the size of defeat is? - I think everyone accepts that the Tories are going to lose, whether that is by 10 seats or a hundred (or whatever) is irrelevant. I have seen forecast of the Tories being down to 66 seats (I dont think they will) but even so, that is better than Labour did in 1931 when they won just 52 and yet, 14 years later, they were forming the government with a landslide. It is what a party does after it loses that is important. If the Tory's go back to believing in conservative policies then their period in the wilderness may not be that long. Yes, it does matter. Noone wants an unapposed government. Also,the Tory party will need to regroup with whoever is left. The smaller the return, the more difficult that is. For once I agree with you, if Labour do win as predicted and there is not an effective opposition Labour will be able to do what they wish , which happened when Blair was in No 10 |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 3, 2024 11:11:34 GMT
You will get waffle and a fake opposition to try and keep up the charade. The only thing the Tories managed to do was the EU referendum, but this was heavily forced by the fact that UKIP dominated the EU elections, and when Leave won the Tories tried to sabotage after McCameron stood down to play Lord Snot. If you want something different then you shouldn't be wasting your time on any of the establishment mainstream parties. I assume you're talking about Reform UK. It's a tough one, I'd like to vote Reform but I cant help thinking that a vote for Reform is essentially a vote for Labour because Reform voters will obviously be disillusioned Tory voters not Labour voters. My heart says Reform, but for all their faults, my head says Tory. Mate, we gave the Tories an eighty seat majority and look where that got us. It's pointless voting for the Tories since they have no intention of doing anything vaguely Tory even when given the absolute wherewithal to do so. The Tories are dead in the water. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 3, 2024 11:18:58 GMT
I assume you're talking about Reform UK. It's a tough one, I'd like to vote Reform but I cant help thinking that a vote for Reform is essentially a vote for Labour because Reform voters will obviously be disillusioned Tory voters not Labour voters. My heart says Reform, but for all their faults, my head says Tory. Mate, we gave the Tories an eighty seat majority and look where that got us. It's pointless voting for the Tories since they have no intention of doing anything vaguely Tory even when given the absolute wherewithal to do so. The Tories are dead in the water. Yes I know, I know. It's a real poser. We'll see, like may people I suspect, we are undecided. Apparently Farage has a big announcement this afternoon, rumour has it he may announce he is standing for Reform. If he does will that push us to support Reform? Dunno, we'll see. |
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Post by ratcliff on Jun 3, 2024 11:30:37 GMT
Im a tory, a thatcherite, its in all of our interests for the tories to be out. Labour will as usual self destruct, its inevitable. It does not matter who you vote for as long as its not tory, im voting reform. Lets hope the tories become tories, im not hopeful. Your vote will ,in effect ,be a vote for Labour |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 3, 2024 11:38:17 GMT
Mate, we gave the Tories an eighty seat majority and look where that got us. It's pointless voting for the Tories since they have no intention of doing anything vaguely Tory even when given the absolute wherewithal to do so. The Tories are dead in the water. Yes I know, I know. It's a real poser. We'll see, like may people I suspect, we are undecided. Apparently Farage has a big announcement this afternoon, rumour has it he may announce he is standing for Reform. If he does will that push us to support Reform? Dunno, we'll see. I'm not undecided. Every piece of evidence we have shows that it's pointless voting for the Tories. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 3, 2024 11:42:36 GMT
Im a tory, a thatcherite, its in all of our interests for the tories to be out. Labour will as usual self destruct, its inevitable. It does not matter who you vote for as long as its not tory, im voting reform. Lets hope the tories become tories, im not hopeful. Your vote will ,in effect ,be a vote for Labour Even if that were the case, I'm no longer prepared to vote for the right cheek to keep the left cheek out of power. They're so similar that I no longer care. Besides, I'm going to enjoy watching Labour rip themselves apart.🙂 |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 3, 2024 11:49:39 GMT
Yes I know, I know. It's a real poser. We'll see, like may people I suspect, we are undecided. Apparently Farage has a big announcement this afternoon, rumour has it he may announce he is standing for Reform. If he does will that push us to support Reform? Dunno, we'll see. I'm not undecided. Every piece of evidence we have shows that it's pointless voting for the Tories. That may or may not be the case. The fact remains, a vote for Reform is likely to give Labour a bigger majority than they could otherwise expect. I'll be honest I'd sooner have a rubbish Tory government than a rubbish Labour government. The thought of a pro EU, pro minority, pro woke, pro immigration Labour government is a frightening prospect, and yes I know, that's probably what we are going to get. Lets wait and see what Farage has to say this afternoon. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 3, 2024 11:50:48 GMT
Poor old Starmer doesn't know it yet (or maybe he does) Rayner & Abbott are already plotting his coup without the violence, this pair of Corbynites are hell bent on destroying the UK, they are anti-English/British they hate the monarchy, in fact they hate anything typically English/British, between them and the Unions the UK will not recover, and our English/British Identities will be lost forever.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 3, 2024 11:55:55 GMT
I'm not undecided. Every piece of evidence we have shows that it's pointless voting for the Tories. That may or may not be the case. The fact remains, a vote for Reform is likely to give Labour a bigger majority than they could otherwise expect. I'll be honest I'd sooner have a rubbish Tory government than a rubbish Labour government. The thought of a pro EU, pro minority, pro woke, pro immigration Labour government is a frightening prospect, and yes I know, that's probably what we are going to get. Lets wait and see what Farage has to say this afternoon. Nah, I want to destroy the Tories. And if the sheeple are dim enough to install a Labour administration then they deserve the buggering they're about to get. My anarchic side will enjoy watching the carnage. Fuck the sheeple. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 3, 2024 11:59:46 GMT
Poor old Starmer doesn't know it yet (or maybe he does) Rayner & Abbott are already plotting his coup... Absolutely, Beer Korma won't manage a full term in office. But hopefully the ensuing bunfight will destroy Labour. Because let's be fair, Abbott and Rayner don't have a brain cell between them. |
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