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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2024 16:41:26 GMT
Wouldn't surprise me if she ends up in the other house I'd say it was a cast iron certainty. It would be seen as racist not to elevate her to the Lords. If she was white her supporters would insist she was locked up. It's the double standard hypocrisy I can't stand. |
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Post by ProVeritas on May 29, 2024 16:45:19 GMT
Well, that vote is likley long gone now. All The Best No. Stamford Hill, N16, remains a chosen location… Right. But the very comments Abbott was investigated for are likely to have alienated the Jewish vote. All The Best |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 29, 2024 16:51:51 GMT
I'd say it was a cast iron certainty. It would be seen as racist not to elevate her to the Lords. If she was white her supporters would insist she was locked up. It's the double standard hypocrisy I can't stand. I agree, if a white politician had said half the things Abbott has come out with over the years they would have been hounded out of politics a long time ago. She will defo end up in the Lords for no other reason than she was the first black MP, or first black female MP. |
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Post by Bentley on May 29, 2024 18:28:04 GMT
Indeed but that isn’t always a good thing . Abbott is more notorious than celebrated . That's opinion. What I posted is fact... Nope . You posted “ Diane Abbott is certainly one of the very few MPs — past and present — that are remembered and recognised by the public without prompting.“ which is niot only your opinion based in your own limitations but factually incorrect . Thatch, Johnson , Churchill and more are at least as remembed and recognised without prompting than Abbott. Abbott is more notorious than celebrated which is clear to anyone without your limitations. |
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Post by patman post on May 29, 2024 18:31:20 GMT
That's opinion. What I posted is fact... Nope . You posted “ Diane Abbott is certainly one of the very few MPs — past and present — that are remembered and recognised by the public without prompting.“ which is niot only your opinion based in your own limitations but factually incorrect . Thatch, Johnson , Churchill and more are at least as remembed and recognised without prompting than Abbott. Abbott is more notorious than celebrated which is clear to anyone without your limitations. So you name three, none of which I’d disagree with, but three, four, or five is still a few… |
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Post by Bentley on May 29, 2024 18:32:34 GMT
She’s the MP for Hackney North and Stoke Newington . A plank would be able to beat any other political party there …as Abbott has consistently shown. I doubt you can support your view when she got 70.35% share of the total vote from the 61.5% of the electorate that cast their votes.
Interesting demographic stats show the population to be 55% White, 19.33% Black, 64% British-born, 12.64% Jewish, and 13.46% Muslim...
As I said , a Labour plank would win over any other political party there . Nothing you posted refutes that . |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 29, 2024 18:34:45 GMT
To be perfectly honest, I'm surprised and disappointed that Abbott is not shadow chancellor...
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Post by patman post on May 29, 2024 18:35:49 GMT
I doubt you can support your view when she got 70.35% share of the total vote from the 61.5% of the electorate that cast their votes.
Interesting demographic stats show the population to be 55% White, 19.33% Black, 64% British-born, 12.64% Jewish, and 13.46% Muslim...
As I said , a Labour plank would win over any other political party there . Nothing you posted refutes that . That theory will be tested if Diane Abbott stands as an independent. Perhaps she’ll form a splinter group… |
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Post by Bentley on May 29, 2024 18:36:15 GMT
Nope . You posted “ Diane Abbott is certainly one of the very few MPs — past and present — that are remembered and recognised by the public without prompting.“ which is niot only your opinion based in your own limitations but factually incorrect . Thatch, Johnson , Churchill and more are at least as remembed and recognised without prompting than Abbott. Abbott is more notorious than celebrated which is clear to anyone without your limitations. So you name three, none of which I’d disagree with, but three, four, or five is still a few… Attlee, Gladstone , Wilson, Heath , Corbyn , Starmer Rayner, Steel, Cameron , Mandelson ,George, ..lol. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 29, 2024 18:40:30 GMT
She has the same record as you in outsmarting people and it comes from the same place ..in their delusional dream world . Good point . Amazing really, she's the most dense and intolerable bigot I have ever come across. She also stated that she wanted the IRA to defeat the UK. She isn't a heavyweight either, she just spews race politics to a highly 'diverse' constituency. One thing for certain is that she's a dinosaur who offers nothing good in this day and age. Still, this is the Labour party we're talking about and her Jew hatred is obviously sought after. Starmer once again proves himself a liar and a creep. I see her as a bit of a Dennis Skinner type, but perhaps not as smart. I can't say I support her political position, but where the vast majority of the parliament think in the Westminster group think, she is off somewhere else entirely. She often manages to catch them out and brighten up the proceedings. watching Parliamentary folk trying to think is quite amusing. |
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Post by Bentley on May 29, 2024 18:40:41 GMT
As I said , a Labour plank would win over any other political party there . Nothing you posted refutes that . That theory will be tested if Diane Abbott stands as an independent. Perhaps she’ll form a splinter group… Well she is a plank so there will be splinters to spare . Tbh If she did win the vote as an independent it would be because of her connection to Labour . If she stands down a Labour candidate is a shoo in. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 29, 2024 18:44:00 GMT
No. Stamford Hill, N16, remains a chosen location… Right. But the very comments Abbott was investigated for are likely to have alienated the Jewish vote. All The Best Considering the size of their population in the UK I think it is rather more along the lines of it "alienating" Jewish business party donations. |
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Post by Bentley on May 29, 2024 18:48:33 GMT
You “That's like saying an idiot is smart compared to the likes of oneself.” Why not? You have pretended to be clever and insightful for years . You arejust another clown who whines ‘ troll’ when they are caught out and whines ‘ rude’ when others are rude back .. Your turn. See, you are now back to your spiteful accusations. That's so uncivilised. Manners cost nothing. I really don't understand why you have to attack someone like that who was just joining in a chat, not wishing to upset anyone on here. You “That's like saying an idiot is smart compared to the likes of oneself.” Heres a tip. If can’t take it don’t dish it out ….and if you are in a hole , stop digging .😁 There's a good boy . |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 29, 2024 18:55:58 GMT
See, you are now back to your spiteful accusations. That's so uncivilised. Manners cost nothing. I really don't understand why you have to attack someone like that who was just joining in a chat, not wishing to upset anyone on here. You “That's like saying an idiot is smart compared to the likes of oneself.” Heres a tip. If can’t take it don’t dish it out ….and if you are in a hole , stop digging .😁 There's a good boy . This was the full post. What you are doing is taking offence on behalf of some group which has nothing to do with you. You are not an MP, so if I attack MPs then you taking offence is just the same kind of thing these left-wingers do when they take offence if someone has insulted gays or blacks when they are neither.
You are showing your leftwing credentials to me, that's all.
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Post by patman post on May 29, 2024 18:56:29 GMT
So you name three, none of which I’d disagree with, but three, four, or five is still a few… Attlee, Gladstone , Wilson, Heath , Corbyn , Starmer Rayner, Steel, Cameron , Mandelson ,George, ..lol. After a google, perhaps. And after a think I could add more… |
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