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Post by Totheleft on May 29, 2024 18:24:49 GMT
Try Blackburn, Rochdale, Luton or Birmingham, if you lived in any of these locations you would not be so sanguine about the effects of immigration. Of course increasing the population by three quarters of a million people per annum puts a strain on hospitals, schools, housing and public libraries, any five year old child can work that out. Farage is correct about most things, whatever you may feel about him. I live in Rochdale and 3 week ago I had to undergo a 6 hrs wait a after being admitted by Ambulance and hay oh seen more Medical staff foreigners then in the waiting room .but hay ho you must be right . |
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Post by Bentley on May 29, 2024 18:44:22 GMT
It addresses both your question and addresses why Farage has a platform . So it does really . The fact that Farrage has a platform doesn't mean he is entitled to one. He has earned the right for a platform as I explained to you . The fact that you don’t think he’s entitled doesn’t mean he isnt . |
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Post by Bentley on May 29, 2024 18:56:54 GMT
Yesterday on SKY News Nigel Farage stated that the NHS waiting lists, housing shortages and the state of our public services were mainly, or mostly to do with immigration ... he clearly makes it up as he goes along. In the part of Yorkshire where I live, the population is something like 98 to 99% white, and the only place where you will see black or Asian people in any significent numbers is in the District General Hospital, where a sizeable proportion of staff are from ethnic minorities. If these falsehoods which populists like Farage put out were even remotely true, then the larger urban conurbations such as Liecester, London and Bradford would have longer NHS waiting lists, whilst remoter and more rural areas with very few immigrants or ethnic minorities would have shorter waiting lists, but that is not the case. The highest percentage of Eastern European settlers in the UK are to be found in Boston, Peterborough and The Fens, yet NHS waiting lists there are no different there to anywhere else.One of the few good points about our First Past The Post voting system is that though Reform may get over 10% or more of the popular vote, they will probably end up with no seats. Possibly because the cut price migrants are/ were young and/ or more resources have been put into NHS in those areas . |
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Post by happyhornet on May 29, 2024 19:14:27 GMT
The fact that Farrage has a platform doesn't mean he is entitled to one. He has earned the right for a platform as I explained to you . The fact that you don’t think he’s entitled doesn’t mean he isnt . Nobody is entitled to a platform, one can only be given one. |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 29, 2024 19:19:27 GMT
He has earned the right for a platform as I explained to you . The fact that you don’t think he’s entitled doesn’t mean he isnt . Nobody is entitled to a platform, one can only be given one. You're talking bloody rubbish. |
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Post by happyhornet on May 29, 2024 19:57:44 GMT
Nobody is entitled to a platform, one can only be given one. You're talking bloody rubbish. What platforms are you or I entitled to? |
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Post by Bentley on May 29, 2024 19:58:29 GMT
He has earned the right for a platform as I explained to you . The fact that you don’t think he’s entitled doesn’t mean he isnt . Nobody is entitled to a platform, one can only be given one. Oh for fucks sake .🤡^ |
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Post by witchfinder on May 29, 2024 19:58:48 GMT
Yesterday on SKY News Nigel Farage stated that the NHS waiting lists, housing shortages and the state of our public services were mainly, or mostly to do with immigration ... he clearly makes it up as he goes along. In the part of Yorkshire where I live, the population is something like 98 to 99% white, and the only place where you will see black or Asian people in any significent numbers is in the District General Hospital, where a sizeable proportion of staff are from ethnic minorities. If these falsehoods which populists like Farage put out were even remotely true, then the larger urban conurbations such as Liecester, London and Bradford would have longer NHS waiting lists, whilst remoter and more rural areas with very few immigrants or ethnic minorities would have shorter waiting lists, but that is not the case. The highest percentage of Eastern European settlers in the UK are to be found in Boston, Peterborough and The Fens, yet NHS waiting lists there are no different there to anywhere else. One of the few good points about our First Past The Post voting system is that though Reform may get over 10% or more of the popular vote, they will probably end up with no seats. Do you have a problem with housing and doctor's appointments in your area. I live in an area of Scotland with very little immigration and no problems with housing or doctor's appointments (usually same day) or dentists. 25 miles up the road it is a different story. It is not a falsehood to say immigration places a strain on all services. It is a logical assumption grounded in the reality of what is happening on average throughout the country. In England ( all of England ) the length of time it takes to get a GP appointment lengthened after the Conservatives came to power in 2010, and as with waiting lists, got worse. Nothing what so ever to to with immigrants - there was no problem before 2011 |
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Post by witchfinder on May 29, 2024 20:01:49 GMT
Yesterday on SKY News Nigel Farage stated that the NHS waiting lists, housing shortages and the state of our public services were mainly, or mostly to do with immigration ... he clearly makes it up as he goes along. This might help you... The biggest contributing factor of all when it comes to the housing crisis is the fact that BOTH "New Labour" and the Conservatives have not built anywhere near enough social housing to rent. |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 29, 2024 20:35:02 GMT
The biggest contributing factor of all when it comes to the housing crisis is the fact that BOTH "New Labour" and the Conservatives have not built anywhere near enough social housing to rent. Absolute bloody rubbish, Christ almighty what is it with you lefties. The reason we have a housing crisis in this country is because we allow too many people in. Net migration is running at 670,000 a year and the population has increased by 7 million over the past 20 years which is why people cant get GP appointments, dentist appointments, hospital appointments, school & nursery places etc etc, the reason social infrastructure is crumbling is not because there are too few houses, it's because there are too many people in this country. England has been the most densely populated country in Europe since 2007. You cant pour a quart into a pint pot, we are full. |
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Post by jonksy on May 29, 2024 20:45:58 GMT
The biggest contributing factor of all when it comes to the housing crisis is the fact that BOTH "New Labour" and the Conservatives have not built anywhere near enough social housing to rent. The reason we have a housing crisis in this country is because we allow too many people in. Net migration is running at 670,000 a year and the population has increased by 7 million over the past 20 years which is why people cant get GP appointments, dentist appointments, hospital appointments, school & nursery places etc etc, the reason social infrastructure is crumbling is not because there are too few houses, it's because there are too many people in this country. England has been the most densely populated country in Europe since 2007. You cant pour a quart into a pint pot, we are full. These are the dumfucks who will vote labour...You don't require a degree in rocket science to see the pot is full... |
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Post by jonksy on May 29, 2024 20:51:19 GMT
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Post by buccaneer on May 29, 2024 21:04:15 GMT
He has earned the right for a platform as I explained to you . The fact that you don’t think he’s entitled doesn’t mean he isnt . Nobody is entitled to a platform, one can only be given one. Farage has been given one. Tough for you it appears. Take your grievance up with Ofcom. |
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Post by witchfinder on May 29, 2024 21:06:43 GMT
The biggest contributing factor of all when it comes to the housing crisis is the fact that BOTH "New Labour" and the Conservatives have not built anywhere near enough social housing to rent. Absolute bloody rubbish, Christ almighty what is it with you lefties. The reason we have a housing crisis in this country is because we allow too many people in. Net migration is running at 670,000 a year and the population has increased by 7 million over the past 20 years which is why people cant get GP appointments, dentist appointments, hospital appointments, school & nursery places etc etc, the reason social infrastructure is crumbling is not because there are too few houses, it's because there are too many people in this country. England has been the most densely populated country in Europe since 2007. You cant pour a quart into a pint pot, we are full. So if people cannot get GP appointments because of immigration / immigrants, explain why getting a GP appointment was easy in 2009, FIVE YEARS after the influx of Eastern European workers caused by the accession of the A8 countries to the EU, and Free Movement. Yet as soon as the Tories came to power, both GP appointment waiting times began rising, the NHS began deteriorating, and waiting lists started rising. The European migrant workers always go where the jobs are, hence Peterborough, Boston and the Fens where unemployment had been almost non-existent, and where work was available. I am not an economist, but I do know that if there are no people to do the jobs, it causes either low growth or stagnating growth. If businesses attract workers, YOU PLAN, you build homes to match the growing number of workers who come to fill the jobs, and the local economy grows, which contributes to National Growth. Your conclusions are as farcical as Nigel Farages The European migrant workers came here to work, they are mostly young people, fit and healthy, they dont need hip replacements or replacement knee joints. Last time I was in my local A&E the only foreign people I saw were doctors and nurses, the place was packed with entirely white British people, people in wheelchairs, old ladies in nighties, young mothers holding babies, drunks and accident victims, all waiting hours and hours to be seen. |
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Post by jonksy on May 29, 2024 21:09:00 GMT
Absolute bloody rubbish, Christ almighty what is it with you lefties. The reason we have a housing crisis in this country is because we allow too many people in. Net migration is running at 670,000 a year and the population has increased by 7 million over the past 20 years which is why people cant get GP appointments, dentist appointments, hospital appointments, school & nursery places etc etc, the reason social infrastructure is crumbling is not because there are too few houses, it's because there are too many people in this country. England has been the most densely populated country in Europe since 2007. You cant pour a quart into a pint pot, we are full. Yet as soon as the Tories came to power, both GP appointment waiting times began rising, the NHS began deteriorating, and waiting lists started rising. The European migrant workers always go where the jobs are, hence Peterborough, Boston and the Fens where unemployment had been almost non-existent, and where work was available. I am not an economist, but I do know that if there are no people to do the jobs, it causes either low growth or stagnating growth. If businesses attract workers, YOU PLAN, you build homes to match the growing number of workers who come to fill the jobs, and the local economy grows, which contributes to National Growth. Your conclusions are as farcical as Nigel Farages The European migrant workers came here to work, they are mostly young people, fit and healthy, they dont need hip replacements or replacement knee joints. Last time I was in my local A&E the only foreign people I saw were doctors and nurses, the place was packed with entirely white British people, people in wheelchairs, old ladies in nighties, young mothers holding babies, drunks and accident victims, all waiting hours and hours to be seen. Have you heard the one about covid fiddles? |
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