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Post by om15 on Jun 14, 2024 15:17:34 GMT
Jaydee, nice to see you back, unfortunately your medication doesn't seem to have been very effective, perhaps you ought to try the English NHS, they may do the trick. Now, can you advise us how many of your Separatists will retain or win seats in the general election, with most of your party either in prison, under Police investigation or in disgrace it looks like a Labour landslide in Scotland, this will put the kybosh on separation but may allow you to come back from the abyss. Thanks for your alternative view from a parallel universe, but I'm afraid repetition doesn't make it any more believable, meantime, relax and enjoy the Reform Party broadcasts.
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Post by Ripley on Jun 14, 2024 15:28:29 GMT
Jaydee: You're back! I was just in Scotland a couple of weeks ago. The weather was quite terrible but I was impressed by the fact that on our port stops in Norway and the UK, ONLY the Scots had organised groups meet our ship and give the passengers local maps and information. Well done!
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Post by happyjack on Jun 14, 2024 16:07:16 GMT
I don’t know if Westminster has been cheating the English people but it has certainly been treating the Scottish people so favourably in comparison with them that it would not be surprising if many English people feel that way. Scotland raises circa £80 billion in revenue yet benefits from circa £105 billion in public expenditure either directly by UKGov on reserved matters or through the very generous block grant it provides to ScotGov to spend on devolved matters. That’s a benefit of £25 billion per annum in Scotland’s favour by virtue of it being part of the UK. Therefore the only reason why ScotGov can afford these things is not, as you seem to believe, because it is doing well but because of the largesse of the UKGov and the revenue raising power and the remarkable tolerance of the English people. If the English people should be asking their MPs anything it is why does Westminster provide so much more money (circa 26% more) per man, woman and child to ScotGov to spend on devolved matters than Westminster spends on these matters in England, thereby allowing ScotGov to do (and, shamelessly claim credit for providing) things such as you list above for the people of Scotland, particularly when it is effectively English revenues that are paying for them. In the meantime you should shut up and be grateful that we are being so favourably treated rather than gloating and attempting to wind the English people up about this. I do not know where you get your shit from. Scotland is the only nation in the UK that pays its way. You have been told this million times Scotland does not have a deficit. It underspends every year. In terms of the UK the Scotish Government cannot borrow. So what it takes to get through that skull of yours it cannot create something it cannot do. Defies the hell out of me. That spew you keep on about is because of UK TOTAL PUBLIC EXPENDITURE, under present constitional arrangements. Most of it money spent in England, on the joke it is being spent for the benefit of the Scots. Like Scotland paying for bankrupt England's massive debt. On a debt the Scots did not need or ask for. That includes all spending and local authority spending in England, which has SFA to do with Scotland. Dressed up as UK TOTAL PUBLIC EXPENDITURE and that share awarded to Scotland. So perhaps you can tell me how the billions spent on England on the HSL or the billions spent on Hinkley point, and a million and one English projects costing billions and years over due, has to do with Scotland. It is a very simple question.. Could I suggest you read my previous post. I also suggest you try and understand the Barnett Formula and see how the Scots are getting screwed. So when you correct anything I have said. Do it with facts and figures. Not DRoss and the Tory/LabourTory wankers bullshit.. I get my ‘’shit’’ from, amongst other things, the annual GERS reports and from the information that you post in support of your claims; information that you clearly are so incapable of understanding that you don’t realise that it completely disproves the very thing that you believe it is proving. I have already corrected everything that you have said on a number of occasions so it is a complete waste of my time doing so yet again. You are simply too thick to grasp it and, even if you weren’t, you are too bigoted to accept anything that challenges your Indy obsession.
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Post by jaydee on Jun 15, 2024 15:07:45 GMT
Jaydee, nice to see you back, unfortunately your medication doesn't seem to have been very effective, perhaps you ought to try the English NHS, they may do the trick. Now, can you advise us how many of your Separatists will retain or win seats in the general election, with most of your party either in prison, under Police investigation or in disgrace it looks like a Labour landslide in Scotland, this will put the kybosh on separation but may allow you to come back from the abyss. Thanks for your alternative view from a parallel universe, but I'm afraid repetition doesn't make it any more believable, meantime, relax and enjoy the Reform Party broadcasts. Mr Stupid at his stupid best. It baffle mer how more can Englishmen be more stupid. I for the umpteenth time given you a set of figures have given you ma set of figures on your continual daily bollocks and not once can you correct them. Now Mr Stupid if they are incorrect as you are suggesting. How about you correcting them. As your fascist wankers in Westminster change colour. Instead of being Blue fascist wankers. They will be Red fascist wankers. Or are you still so stupid and tonally gullible you actually still believe the Westminster wankers. And I am afraid still refusing to correct one word I have said. Makes you even more stupid. I have a better idea. You enjoy the lies from the wankers in reform.As Herr Adolph Farage. Who holds all the qualities that makes many Englishmen despicable. Becomes a 8 times loser. In the meantime. How about you Mr Stupid correcting what I have said and point to all this money Bankrupt England gave Scotland. That is what you ranted. And oh Mr stupid. Did you suffer much from the recent outbreaks while paying to drink your own excrement. Or are you still under the illusion as a sooper dooper Englishman.. You have the 5th or 6th RICHEST economy in the world. Make sure you relax and take your medication. For your info. I have not been a way. It is simply pointless talking to stupidity and clowns in denial.
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Post by jaydee on Jun 15, 2024 15:36:08 GMT
Jaydee: You're back! I was just in Scotland a couple of weeks ago. The weather was quite terrible but I was impressed by the fact that on our port stops in Norway and the UK, ONLY the Scots had organised groups meet our ship and give the passengers local maps and information. Well done! I stay during the summer months overlook the Forth. On the Fife side near Kirkcaldy. I take photographs of many of the ships plying the Forth and post them on Marine Traffic. During the summer there are up to 4 cruise liners on the Forth at any given time. This contributes around £40 million to the Scottish Economy. It is estimated that some £7 million pounds are generated annually by regional ports as they dock. Invergordon, Greenock etc etc.. Below is one of those photographs. On the day this was taken there was one other cruise ships docked at Rosyth.
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Post by jaydee on Jun 15, 2024 16:30:27 GMT
I do not know where you get your shit from. Scotland is the only nation in the UK that pays its way. You have been told this million times Scotland does not have a deficit. It underspends every year. In terms of the UK the Scotish Government cannot borrow. So what it takes to get through that skull of yours it cannot create something it cannot do. Defies the hell out of me. That spew you keep on about is because of UK TOTAL PUBLIC EXPENDITURE, under present constitional arrangements. Most of it money spent in England, on the joke it is being spent for the benefit of the Scots. Like Scotland paying for bankrupt England's massive debt. On a debt the Scots did not need or ask for. That includes all spending and local authority spending in England, which has SFA to do with Scotland. Dressed up as UK TOTAL PUBLIC EXPENDITURE and that share awarded to Scotland. So perhaps you can tell me how the billions spent on England on the HSL or the billions spent on Hinkley point, and a million and one English projects costing billions and years over due, has to do with Scotland. It is a very simple question.. Could I suggest you read my previous post. I also suggest you try and understand the Barnett Formula and see how the Scots are getting screwed. So when you correct anything I have said. Do it with facts and figures. Not DRoss and the Tory/LabourTory wankers bullshit.. I get my ‘’shit’’ from, amongst other things, the annual GERS reports and from the information that you post in support of your claims; information that you clearly are so incapable of understanding that you don’t realise that it completely disproves the very thing that you believe it is proving. I have already corrected everything that you have said on a number of occasions so it is a complete waste of my time doing so yet again. You are simply too thick to grasp it and, even if you weren’t, you are too bigoted to accept anything that challenges your Indy obsession. Then I suggest you learn how to read the annual shit you get and understand how it is calculated. I have gone all over this with you before. And it is now without question about as reliable as Mr Stupid and his info source he gets from a sex pest in a Nottingham jail. And you have corrected nothing. You explain to me the shit you believe. Recent GERs dictators that under present constitional arrangement Scotland contributed some £84 billion to the UK treasury. Or near enough. Try trebling that in reality. But I digress. From that Scotland was awarded back some £40 billion of its own money to run devolved affairs. That means devolved matters did not cost the English tax payer one penny. From that the ScotGov underspend. Is that true or is that not true. You have had the link a million times. So how did it run a deficit.On top of that. In terms of the UK the Scotsgov cannot borrow. Is that correct or not correct. Thus in terms to explain to the simple minded it cannot create something it cannot do. In short the so called deficit is amongst others, to pay for massive English borrowing that the Scots did not need or ask for. In short. Money spent in England for the Scots to pay.. .. Ho Ho Ho. So explain to me. Where is all this deficit. There is still over £40 billion of Scottish tax payers money floating around the UK treasury, try trebling it in reality. Subsidising bankrupt England. Where is the Scottish deficit.
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Post by jaydee on Jun 15, 2024 16:42:04 GMT
Well you did care less. That is why you came on with contradiction. That you could not ocorrect. Once again not if. The Scotsgov did good. In fact brilliant having subsidice bankrupt England with devastating austerity imposed. So if you have nothing to say about Scotland. Then stick to your English fascist government record of massive bankruptcy. Dragging Scotland with it. . As you clearly cannot correct one word i have posted. But what's new. . Eistein I never contradicted a thing, I said good on them. Einstein. You said you could not care less. So what are you saying that you do not care about. In terms of competition and sneering I suggest you read the bollocks from your own stupid countrymen. Even more on the lunatic side of Farage. Mind you it took months to realise that Johnston was a lying tosspot. I wonder how long it will take to realise Farage is even worse. You know how Brexit will pay.. news.sky.com/story/brexit-new-report-suggests-uk-311bn-worse-off-by-2035-due-to-leaving-eu-13046256 .
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Post by happyjack on Jun 15, 2024 16:42:41 GMT
I have answered all of your inane questions many times before. You are too thick and have no understanding of financial matters so you unable to understand what you read, including the document that you repeatedly post as evidence that ScotGov underspends each year, even when, as I have explained and explained, you are failing to read the figures correctly and not only that, but you are failing to read the accompanying text in that document in which ScotGov explains in simple terms, that they spend every penny that they receive, and yet you persist with your claims to the contrary. As I said above, it is a waste of my time going over the same old straightforward enough stuff with you when you simply lack the capacity to understand anything.
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Post by Ripley on Jun 15, 2024 16:43:45 GMT
Jaydee: You're back! I was just in Scotland a couple of weeks ago. The weather was quite terrible but I was impressed by the fact that on our port stops in Norway and the UK, ONLY the Scots had organised groups meet our ship and give the passengers local maps and information. Well done! I stay during the summer months overlook the Forth. On the Fife side near Kirkcaldy. I take photographs of many of the ships plying the Forth and post them on Marine Traffic. During the summer there are up to 4 cruise liners on the Forth at any given time. This contributes around £40 million to the Scottish Economy. It is estimated that some £7 million pounds are generated annually by regional ports as they dock. Invergordon, Greenock etc etc.. Below is one of those photographs. On the day this was taken there was one other cruise ships docked at Rosyth. Our cruise ship only spent a few hours in port at Rosyth. If that is typical, passengers are not getting much time / opportunity to contribute to the local economy. The taxi drivers probably make more out of the tourists than the shopkeepers do.
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Post by jaydee on Jun 15, 2024 16:56:39 GMT
I have answered all of your inane questions many times before. You are too thick and have no understanding of financial matters so you unable to understand what you read, including the document that you repeatedly post as evidence that ScotGov underspends each year, even when, as I have explained and explained, you are failing to read the figures correctly and not only that, but you are failing to read the accompanying text in that document in which ScotGov explains in simple terms, that they spend every penny that they receive, and yet you persist with your claims to the contrary. As I said above, it is a waste of my time going over the same old straightforward enough stuff with you when you simply lack the capacity to understand anything. Now speaking of being thick. You cannot even answer a simple question. Did the Scotsgov underspend. How did it have a deficit. Did Scotish devolved matters cost the Englsih tax payer one penny. Where is the deficit. By GERs. There is still some £40 billion floating around the UK treasury of Scottish tax payers money. Try trebling that in reality. Point to the deficit. Can the Scots Gov borrow in terms of the UK. So in terms of being thick. Try explain how the Scots created a deficit. I realise some are so thick they cannot see their arse from their elbow and go into denial. So you being the only person in the world that allows someone to spend your money. Then borrows on your behalf. Then spends that on all but you. Then you pay it back. How did you work up a bank deficit. Why do those on here despite being fed figures that they cannot dispute. Still rant and waffle utter clueless shite. And go into denial
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Post by jaydee on Jun 15, 2024 17:09:27 GMT
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Post by sheepy on Jun 15, 2024 17:17:21 GMT
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Post by jaydee on Jun 15, 2024 17:19:57 GMT
I stay during the summer months overlook the Forth. On the Fife side near Kirkcaldy. I take photographs of many of the ships plying the Forth and post them on Marine Traffic. During the summer there are up to 4 cruise liners on the Forth at any given time. This contributes around £40 million to the Scottish Economy. It is estimated that some £7 million pounds are generated annually by regional ports as they dock. Invergordon, Greenock etc etc.. Below is one of those photographs. On the day this was taken there was one other cruise ships docked at Rosyth. Our cruise ship only spent a few hours in port at Rosyth. If that is typical, passengers are not getting much time / opportunity to contribute to the local economy. The taxi drivers probably make more out of the tourists than the shopkeepers do. Nah. It can be there a few hours or two days. Do not forget pilotage fees for a ship this size can cost £3000. To anchor in a prime spot that can cost £40,000. On top of that a bus shuttle runs between the city centre and local tourist attractions. It is big bucks and employs many. By the way what cruise liner where you on. If it passed me I will see if I photographed it.
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Post by happyjack on Jun 15, 2024 17:23:12 GMT
I have answered all of your inane questions many times before. You are too thick and have no understanding of financial matters so you unable to understand what you read, including the document that you repeatedly post as evidence that ScotGov underspends each year, even when, as I have explained and explained, you are failing to read the figures correctly and not only that, but you are failing to read the accompanying text in that document in which ScotGov explains in simple terms, that they spend every penny that they receive, and yet you persist with your claims to the contrary. As I said above, it is a waste of my time going over the same old straightforward enough stuff with you when you simply lack the capacity to understand anything. Now speaking of being thick. You cannot even answer a simple question. Did the Scotsgov underspend. How did it have a deficit. Did Scotish devolved matters cost the Englsih tax payer one penny. Where is the deficit. By GERs. There is still some £40 billion floating around the UK treasury of Scottish tax payers money. Try trebling that in reality. Point to the deficit. Can the Scots Gov borrow in terms of the UK. So in terms of being thick. Try explain how the Scots created a deficit. I realise some are so thick they cannot see their arse from their elbow and go into denial. So you being the only person in the world that allows someone to spend your money. Then borrows on your behalf. Then spends that on all but you. Then you pay it back. How did you work up a bank deficit. Why do those on here despite being fed figures that they cannot dispute. Still rant and waffle utter clueless shite. And go into denial Yes, I speak of being thick and I am saying that you are too thick with no understanding of financial type matters to be discussing matters such as this. I have answered your question many times before so it is a waste of time me trying to explain it to you again as you wil just keep believing the nonsense that you believe, irrespective of how detached from reality your view is.
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Post by jaydee on Jun 15, 2024 17:38:50 GMT
Now speaking of being thick. You cannot even answer a simple question. Did the Scotsgov underspend. How did it have a deficit. Did Scotish devolved matters cost the Englsih tax payer one penny. Where is the deficit. By GERs. There is still some £40 billion floating around the UK treasury of Scottish tax payers money. Try trebling that in reality. Point to the deficit. Can the Scots Gov borrow in terms of the UK. So in terms of being thick. Try explain how the Scots created a deficit. I realise some are so thick they cannot see their arse from their elbow and go into denial. So you being the only person in the world that allows someone to spend your money. Then borrows on your behalf. Then spends that on all but you. Then you pay it back. How did you work up a bank deficit. Why do those on here despite being fed figures that they cannot dispute. Still rant and waffle utter clueless shite. And go into denial Yes, I speak of being thick and I am saying that you are too thick with no understanding of financial type matters to be discussing matters such as this. I have answered your question many times before so it is a waste of time me trying to explain it to you again as you wil just keep believing the nonsense that you believe, irrespective of how detached from reality your view is. Oh matey I fully understand. Let me explain it very nice and simple as you waffle more bollocks. Yes or no. Did the Scotsgov under Barnett receive back some £40 billion of its own money to spend on devolved matters. Did the Scotsgov underspend, using its own money. Where is the deficit. Did that money cost the English tax payer one penny. Under present constitional arrangements. Was some £40 billion of Sottish tax payers money left floating around the Uk treasury. That means the Scots paid there way in the UK. Where is the deficit. Now as you are in dispute of those figures. That the rest of the world cannot deny. Lets have your figures. . Simple question that even a bairn with a biscuit arse could answer. Point to the deficit. Not waffle crap, utter bollocks denial, Your figures. Now while you are it. Can you point out the massive Englsih deficit and debt. . Let me give you it. It is some £3.5 trillion. Yes that really is £3,500,000,000,000. That is some £50,000 for every UK citizen. Thats me. Or some £85,000 for every UK tax payer. Thats me. So stop ranting utter fiscal havering slastering drivel. Or are you in denial of that as well. Not to mention some £300 billion by mid century loss because of Brexit. Still to come. You know the wonderful world of Farage. And no matey you have answered nothing. Because you are incapable. You are on the same level as Mr Stupid. In your case a dismal Johnny like Dross. Forever running down Scotland
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