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Post by morayloon on May 24, 2024 22:45:18 GMT
A list of how Westminster has been cheating English people. With only limited finances, due to your governments holding on to a large part of taxation raised in Scotland, Scot Gov has put the people first. If the pocket money given to Scot Gov can achieve so much with so little, English posters have to ask their MP why their government won't go down the same road!
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Post by om15 on May 25, 2024 7:40:11 GMT
You have just summed up why Scotland is broke and needs vast subsidies from England to keep going. Who would pay for all that lot if you were independent? And still you whinge.
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Post by Vinny on May 26, 2024 17:56:34 GMT
Abolish devolution and the Barnett formula. Allocate public funding on a means tested basis. Those with the most need get the most, those with the least need should get the least help from the state.
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Post by morayloon on May 27, 2024 2:26:25 GMT
And some more info:
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Post by om15 on May 27, 2024 7:48:06 GMT
Your chart demonstrates our point about the SNP, they are good at spending English money, however despite higher spending the actual services are worse than in the rest of the UK.
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Post by happyjack on May 27, 2024 15:39:44 GMT
A list of how Westminster has been cheating English people. With only limited finances, due to your governments holding on to a large part of taxation raised in Scotland, Scot Gov has put the people first. If the pocket money given to Scot Gov can achieve so much with so little, English posters have to ask their MP why their government won't go down the same road! I don’t know if Westminster has been cheating the English people but it has certainly been treating the Scottish people so favourably in comparison with them that it would not be surprising if many English people feel that way. Scotland raises circa £80 billion in revenue yet benefits from circa £105 billion in public expenditure either directly by UKGov on reserved matters or through the very generous block grant it provides to ScotGov to spend on devolved matters. That’s a benefit of £25 billion per annum in Scotland’s favour by virtue of it being part of the UK. Therefore the only reason why ScotGov can afford these things is not, as you seem to believe, because it is doing well but because of the largesse of the UKGov and the revenue raising power and the remarkable tolerance of the English people. If the English people should be asking their MPs anything it is why does Westminster provide so much more money (circa 26% more) per man, woman and child to ScotGov to spend on devolved matters than Westminster spends on these matters in England, thereby allowing ScotGov to do (and, shamelessly claim credit for providing) things such as you list above for the people of Scotland, particularly when it is effectively English revenues that are paying for them. In the meantime you should shut up and be grateful that we are being so favourably treated rather than gloating and attempting to wind the English people up about this.
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Post by jaydee on Jun 14, 2024 8:27:21 GMT
You have just summed up why Scotland is broke and needs vast subsidies from England to keep going. Who would pay for all that lot if you were independent? And still you whinge. Mr stupid at his stupid best. Scotland subsidence's bankrupt England. Let me give you another copy and paste.. When you listen to the utter shit that the likes of D.Ross and the Westminster Tory wankers spew about Scotland is so ridiculous that I am surprised anyone believe one word they say. In terms of D.Ross. I have no idea where or what this utter clown basis his rambling against. Here are just a few figures. And since then the difference has increased. Figure not yet available. For instance nurses pay and doctors north of the border settled. Waiting times and numbers in England increased. It is now 7.68 million Healthcare spending in Scotland is £2,368 per person, while in England it is £2,182. Scotland has 76 GPs per 100,000 people, compared to England with 60 per 100,000 .The number of patients spending over 12 hours in A&E was 0.2 per cent in Scotland, 2 per cent in England. Scottish nurses, Police Officers and firemen are the highest paid in the UK. NHS waiting times. 945,072 people waited more than 12 hours in England A&E departments. That’s 48 times larger than the figure for Scotland 19,667, Scottish nurse average pay is £36,631 in England £33,384. The doctors strike has increased that in England. I have no ideas by how much. In terms of education . The Scots are the most educated people in Europe. Some 52% of Scots have University qualifications. That’s 8% higher than England. Not to mention. Scotland has four University's in the top 100 in the world. That's more per head than any other country in the world. Not to mention University placement is free. Saving some £14,000 a year. So imagine having a family of 4 going to university. As you know the class system does not operate north of the border. There were 3.9 million children living in poverty in England in 2020-21. That's 27 per cent of children, or eight in a classroom of 30. It is on the increase. Since the wankers took power in England. Food parcel have risen from 4,000 to 4.2 million. In Scotland. Funded early learning and childcare is free to parents, but funded by the Scottish Government. You can get up to 1,140 hours of funded early learning and childcare a year (around 30 hours a week in term time) if your child is 3 or 4 years old. Some 2 year olds are also eligible. On top of the National UK payment. Scottish Child Payment is awarded if successful towards the costs of supporting family in poverty. . It's a weekly payment of £25 that you can get for every child who's under 16 years of age. The payment every 4 weeks. It does not cost the English tax payer one penny. Neither does devolved maters. Scotland is the only UK nation to have exported more goods internationally than it has imported every year since records began. In terms of exports per head, Scotland out performs the UK: Scotland exports £17,455 per head per year, while England exports £8,626 per head per year. Scotland is an exporting powerhouse, Whose success has had nothing to do with being part of the UK, but whose future has been jeopardised due to the UK leading taking Scotland out of the European Union In 2022 Scots paid 40 - 50% more on energy bills than the south of England. Energy is a retained matter and is part of the National Grid that runs the entire length of the UK and across the channel. Business all over the world are in business of making money and do not give a rats crap where they source there products to run that business. On average renewable costs 3.7 pence per KW hour to produce While on average Nuclear and fossil fuel costs around 50 pence per KW hour to produce. Scotland can now produce all it needs and more to spare on renewable. On wind and wave power alone Scotland holds some 30% of the European capacity. It's a power house. To cut a long story short. When renewable enters the national grid. That 3.7 pence turns into 50 pence on that product that Scotland exports by the bucket load. On indy the Scottish Government will operate two markets. One singular to Scottish needs and the other to the national grid. That 3.7 pence will give a return to the Scots of 50 pence. Simple mathematic. If business can produce a widget for 3.7 pence. Then the one that costs 50 pence to make is going to have a problem. That is the scale. Oil in Scotland is a bonus. The Scottish Construction industry has a turn over of £20 billion between 21,000 companies employing 125,000 people directly. That is 20% more per capita than England. In 2021 Scotland built 118 affordable houses per 100,000. Guess what, as the previous figures suggest. That is 22% more than England at 22% per 100,000. Because of the disaster of affordable housing in England. The Joseph Rowntree Foundation have found that over 1 million families in England are paying rent that they simply cannot afford. Then the likes of Sunak rants the Scots are the highest taxed in the UK. That is correct if you earn over £125,000 per year. That is around 20% of tax payers. What clowns like him and D.Ross conveniently miss out. Some 80% of Scottish tax payers pay less than those in England. Scotland has a progressive tax system, with various rates. . But the basic rate is dictated by the UK treasury. Which England is screaming for. Not to mention the Scottish Government underspends every year since it took power.. . Oh look the English Tory wankers crashed the economy three times in as many months. As proven English liars represent the UK. Dragging the good name of the SCots with them. www.gov.scot/publications/foi-19-02227/Now why anyone in Scotland would vote for the Union and keep getting screwed defies the hell out of me. As the clowns in Westminster rant the SNP hate the English. Which shows the mind set. The policy of the SNP is to leave the UK. So why is the SNP not anti Welsh or NI. You do not need to be the brain of Britain to work it out. So Mr stupid would you like to point out this utter shIie that bankrupt England subsidence's Scotland. Since the SNP took power the have underspent every year. Would you care to correct any of this. And just for your info. As you are so Mr Stupid you cannot even tell the difference between the word RICHEST or LARGEST. The UK is not the 5th or 6th RICHEST economy in the world. It is the 5th or 6th LARGEST. It is not even in the top ten in Europe. In terms of the world it comes in around 28th. That is third world shit. Because the Englsih cannot lived and spend within their means. And dragging Scotland with it. I see the Unionist liars and Westminster wankers are filling your head with shit on a race to the bottom. They are now all fascist lying wankers, and can offer energy rich Scotland nothing. Correction please Mr Stupid.Not idiotic bullshit. bestdiplomats.org/richest-countries-in-europe/www.worlddata.info/richest-countries.php
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Post by jaydee on Jun 14, 2024 8:47:56 GMT
A list of how Westminster has been cheating English people. With only limited finances, due to your governments holding on to a large part of taxation raised in Scotland, Scot Gov has put the people first. If the pocket money given to Scot Gov can achieve so much with so little, English posters have to ask their MP why their government won't go down the same road! I don’t know if Westminster has been cheating the English people but it has certainly been treating the Scottish people so favourably in comparison with them that it would not be surprising if many English people feel that way. Scotland raises circa £80 billion in revenue yet benefits from circa £105 billion in public expenditure either directly by UKGov on reserved matters or through the very generous block grant it provides to ScotGov to spend on devolved matters. That’s a benefit of £25 billion per annum in Scotland’s favour by virtue of it being part of the UK. Therefore the only reason why ScotGov can afford these things is not, as you seem to believe, because it is doing well but because of the largesse of the UKGov and the revenue raising power and the remarkable tolerance of the English people. If the English people should be asking their MPs anything it is why does Westminster provide so much more money (circa 26% more) per man, woman and child to ScotGov to spend on devolved matters than Westminster spends on these matters in England, thereby allowing ScotGov to do (and, shamelessly claim credit for providing) things such as you list above for the people of Scotland, particularly when it is effectively English revenues that are paying for them. In the meantime you should shut up and be grateful that we are being so favourably treated rather than gloating and attempting to wind the English people up about this. I do not know where you get your shit from. Scotland is the only nation in the UK that pays its way. You have been told this million times Scotland does not have a deficit. It underspends every year. In terms of the UK the Scotish Government cannot borrow. So what it takes to get through that skull of yours it cannot create something it cannot do. Defies the hell out of me. That spew you keep on about is because of UK TOTAL PUBLIC EXPENDITURE, under present constitional arrangements. Most of it money spent in England, on the joke it is being spent for the benefit of the Scots. Like Scotland paying for bankrupt England's massive debt. On a debt the Scots did not need or ask for. That includes all spending and local authority spending in England, which has SFA to do with Scotland. Dressed up as UK TOTAL PUBLIC EXPENDITURE and that share awarded to Scotland. So perhaps you can tell me how the billions spent on England on the HSL or the billions spent on Hinkley point, and a million and one English projects costing billions and years over due, has to do with Scotland. It is a very simple question.. Could I suggest you read my previous post. I also suggest you try and understand the Barnett Formula and see how the Scots are getting screwed. So when you correct anything I have said. Do it with facts and figures. Not DRoss and the Tory/LabourTory wankers bullshit..
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Post by sheepy on Jun 14, 2024 9:00:00 GMT
If Scot gov has done a good job then good on them, I certainly don't see it as a competition. Where a few Scots nats turn up to sneer in their usual fashion.
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Post by jaydee on Jun 14, 2024 9:09:16 GMT
If Scot gov has done a good job then good on them, I certainly don't see it as a competition. Where a few Scots nats turn up to sneer in their usual fashion. Not if the Scotgov did a good job.. it did. Take dozens of things you do not have in fascist bankrupt England. . Free tuition fees. Scots Child allowance, progressive tax system, free bus travel for the aged and those under 21.. Free prescriptions, care for the elderly, amongst many others.. All of which bankrupt England is screaming for. So instead of doing a secret squirrel act. Would you care to correct anything I have said. In short. Scotland can no longer afford bankrupt England. Or are you going of on a circular rant. And exactly what do you compare the Tory wankers with the Scots Gov with. How about potholes or health care. Anything. Take your pick. Paid for by the Scots tax payer. Devolved matters do no cost the English tax payer one penny. And with that the Scotsgov still underspent.
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Post by sheepy on Jun 14, 2024 9:14:16 GMT
If Scot gov has done a good job then good on them, I certainly don't see it as a competition. Where a few Scots nats turn up to sneer in their usual fashion. Not if the Scotgov did a good job.. it did. Take dozens of things you do not have in fascist bankrupt England. . Free tuition fees. Scots Child allowance, progressive tax system, free bus travel for the aged and those under 21.. Free prescriptions, care for the elderly, amongst many others.. All of which bankrupt England is screaming for. So instead of doing a secret squirrel act. Would you care to correct anything I have said. In short. Scotland can no longer afford bankrupt England. Or are you going of on a circular rant. And exactly what do you compare the Tory wankers with the Scots Gov with. How about potholes or health care. Anything. Take your pick. Paid for by the Scots tax payer. Devolved matters do no cost the English tax payer one penny. I can honestly say, I couldn't careless, for all of your trying to make it a competition, if they have done well good on them, I couldn't be bothered pointing out where they haven't done so well as that would make me more like you, which is never going to happen.
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Post by jaydee on Jun 14, 2024 9:24:16 GMT
Not if the Scotgov did a good job.. it did. Take dozens of things you do not have in fascist bankrupt England. . Free tuition fees. Scots Child allowance, progressive tax system, free bus travel for the aged and those under 21.. Free prescriptions, care for the elderly, amongst many others.. All of which bankrupt England is screaming for. So instead of doing a secret squirrel act. Would you care to correct anything I have said. In short. Scotland can no longer afford bankrupt England. Or are you going of on a circular rant. And exactly what do you compare the Tory wankers with the Scots Gov with. How about potholes or health care. Anything. Take your pick. Paid for by the Scots tax payer. Devolved matters do no cost the English tax payer one penny. I can honestly say, I couldn't careless, for all of your trying to make it a competition, if they have done well good on them, I couldn't be bothered pointing out where they haven't done so well as that would make me more like you, which is never going to happen. Well you did care less. That is why you came on with contradiction. That you could not ocorrect. Once again not if. The Scotsgov did good. In fact brilliant having subsidice bankrupt England with devastating austerity imposed. So if you have nothing to say about Scotland. Then stick to your English fascist government record of massive bankruptcy. Dragging Scotland with it. . As you clearly cannot correct one word i have posted. But what's new. .
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Post by sheepy on Jun 14, 2024 9:26:41 GMT
I can honestly say, I couldn't careless, for all of your trying to make it a competition, if they have done well good on them, I couldn't be bothered pointing out where they haven't done so well as that would make me more like you, which is never going to happen. Well you did care less. That is why you came on with contradiction. That you could not ocorrect. Once again not if. The Scotsgov did good. In fact brilliant having subsidice bankrupt England with devastating austerity imposed. So if you have nothing to say about Scotland. Then stick to your English fascist government record of massive bankruptcy. Dragging Scotland with it. . As you clearly cannot correct one word i have posted. But what's new. . Eistein I never contradicted a thing, I said good on them.
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Post by Vinny on Jun 14, 2024 9:46:27 GMT
Abolish devolution, abolish the Barnett formula, allocate public spending on the basis of need, not geography and have one legal system for all of our island nation.
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Post by borchester on Jun 14, 2024 10:26:53 GMT
A list of how Westminster has been cheating English people. With only limited finances, due to your governments holding on to a large part of taxation raised in Scotland, Scot Gov has put the people first. If the pocket money given to Scot Gov can achieve so much with so little, English posters have to ask their MP why their government won't go down the same road! Could be Moray, but the polls still show that come July your countrymen and women will wipe the Nats dials and Scotland will return to the welcoming embrace of the Labour party
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