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Post by happyhornet on May 24, 2024 12:22:04 GMT
Do we know what Sunak's policies are? The only one that springs to mind lately is Rwanda which has cost hundreds of millions of our money and hasn't worked. BS. It hasn't started yet and it's already working with illegals moving to Ireland so as not to be removed.
How many flights have taken off? Any other policies you can think of?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2024 12:23:23 GMT
I don't think they're capable of a positive Labour argument.
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Post by jonksy on May 24, 2024 12:24:54 GMT
FFS hh if the arsehole CANNOT even define a woman what fucking use is he to the UK? Perhaps by focusing on the economy, NHS, Education, law and order instead of petty culture war issues? So what are starmers policies for those topics hh? Apart from fucking it up evem more than it is now...And who in their right mind would even think that not being able to define a woman is a culture issue FFS?
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Post by Bentley on May 24, 2024 12:28:15 GMT
Hasnt it ? Ask Ireland. Once the flights start ( if they start ) I suspect that it will change everything . As for the rest , it’s pretty much more of what we had. The flights haven't started and won't unless Sunak wins and even then I wouldn't bet on it, would you? "As for the rest , it’s pretty much more of what we had" So more of the status quo? Good luck selling that one. Sunak seems to be pursuing it and as it has it has caused an effect even before it starts then I would bet that it will. Inflation is going down and the economy isn’t too bad . I would rather have that than risk a Labour fiasco. The problem with Sunak is that he failed the people who voted for him . Plenty of centre right rhetoric but nothing to back it up .
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Post by happyhornet on May 24, 2024 12:30:13 GMT
Perhaps by focusing on the economy, NHS, Education, law and order instead of petty culture war issues? So what are starmers policies for those topics hh? Apart from fucking it up evem more than it is now...And who in their right mind would even think that not being able to define a woman is a culture issue FFS? As I said before I would have expected him to keep his cards close to his chest before an election was called. Now we'll get details of his policies to deliver on the priorities he's set out, or at least we better for his sake. What are Sunak's policies?
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Post by jonksy on May 24, 2024 12:34:35 GMT
So what are starmers policies for those topics hh? Apart from fucking it up evem more than it is now...And who in their right mind would even think that not being able to define a woman is a culture issue FFS? As I said before I would have expected him to keep his cards close to his chest before an election was called. Now we'll get details of his policies to deliver on the priorities he's set out, or at least we better for his sake. What are Sunak's policies? So as I have stated you are in the fucking dark along with the rest of us on what starmers policies are...Even starmer doesn't know and just goes with the flow of trying to be in touch with public opinion...And we all know what sunaks policies are he just wants out FFS...
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Post by happyhornet on May 24, 2024 12:34:58 GMT
The flights haven't started and won't unless Sunak wins and even then I wouldn't bet on it, would you? "As for the rest , it’s pretty much more of what we had" So more of the status quo? Good luck selling that one. Sunak seems to be pursuing it and as it has it has caused an effect even before it starts then I would bet that it will. Inflation is going down and the economy isn’t too bad . I would rather have that than risk a Labour fiasco. The problem with Sunak is that he failed the people who voted for him . Plenty of centre right rhetoric but nothing to back it up . When inflation was going up we were told that it had nothing to do with the government, but we're supposed to give them the credit when it comes down? The economy isn't too bad? For you perhaps, that's not the experience of people I know. Sunak and his party insisting the economy is turning a corner when most people at the sharp end aren't seeing or feeling any improvement is a huge gift for Labour. It plays into the out of touch Tory narrative, that they are essentially feeding us shit and calling it sugar.
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Post by happyhornet on May 24, 2024 12:36:51 GMT
As I said before I would have expected him to keep his cards close to his chest before an election was called. Now we'll get details of his policies to deliver on the priorities he's set out, or at least we better for his sake. What are Sunak's policies? So as I have stated you are in the fucking dark along with the rest of us on what starmers policies are...Even starmer doesn't know and just goes with the flow of trying to be in touch with public opinion...And we all know what sunaks policies are he just wants out FFS... Well we won't be for long, that's what manefestos are for. All political parties have been light on policy because they don't want to give the opposition years to pick holes in them or nick them.
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Post by jonksy on May 24, 2024 12:40:17 GMT
So as I have stated you are in the fucking dark along with the rest of us on what starmers policies are...Even starmer doesn't know and just goes with the flow of trying to be in touch with public opinion...And we all know what sunaks policies are he just wants out FFS... Well we won't be for long, that's what manefestos are for. All political parties have been light on policy because they don't want to give the opposition years to pick holes in them or nick them. This is the type of woke shit we can expect from starmer......
Tax red meat to save the planet, Labour ‘megadonor’ urges....It don't take much to fool you lefties does it hh?
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Post by Bentley on May 24, 2024 12:40:46 GMT
Sunak seems to be pursuing it and as it has it has caused an effect even before it starts then I would bet that it will. Inflation is going down and the economy isn’t too bad . I would rather have that than risk a Labour fiasco. The problem with Sunak is that he failed the people who voted for him . Plenty of centre right rhetoric but nothing to back it up . When inflation was going up we were told that it had nothing to do with the government, but we're supposed to give them the credit when it comes down? The economy isn't too bad? For you perhaps, that's not the experience of people I know. Sunak and his party insisting the economy is turning a corner when most people at the sharp end aren't seeing or feeling any improvement is a huge gift for Labour. It plays into the out of touch Tory narrative, that they are essentially feeding us shit and calling it sugar. If I get mugged it has nothing to do with the police but the police get involved to remedy it. I don’t know of any country , no matter how rich, where no one is poor ( maybe some oil rich countries or tax havens ). If you think Labour is going to lead us into sunny uplands ( or whatever ) you are as naive as the ex remainers accused the brexiteers of being .
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Post by Red Rackham on May 24, 2024 12:49:00 GMT
Lol, yes indeed, and if the boot were on the other foot you would be accusing Sunak of running away from debating with Starmer. Such is life. You can criticise Sunak all you like, indeed I do, but the bottom line is and for better or worse, we know what Sunaks policies are. But we do not know what Starmers policies are. I've just listened to economics guru Liam Halligan who said he has tried to work out what Labours energy policy is, and he cant. He said even with his economic expertise, he cannot work out what Labours energy policy is. And it's the same across the board, every day we hear someone saying 'what are Labours policies'? Labour policy seems to be... just trust us, we'll tell you what our policies are once we're in power. Do we know what Sunak's policies are? The only one that springs to mind lately is Rwanda which has cost hundreds of millions of our money and hasn't worked. Seriously! You're asking what Sunak's policies are? Sunak has been PM for the best part of two years, anyone who doesn't know what his polices are must live in a box. You cite Rwanda. I think we all know it's not the best plan in the world, but it is a plan. On the other hand, Starmer says he will scrap Rwanda "even if it's working"! When asked how he will deal with illegals all he says is 'smash the gangs'. It's all any Labour MP ever says, they must have been briefed to give absolutely no detail and told to repeat ad nauseum "smash the gangs". It's like listening to robots. Is Labours almost total lack of detail on any migrant policy because: a) Starmer has no policy, or b) Starmer doesn't want voters to know exactly what Labour migrant policy is. Until he's in number 10. Answers on a post card kiddies.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 24, 2024 12:55:56 GMT
The economy isn't too bad? For you perhaps, that's not the experience of people I know. Sunak and his party insisting the economy is turning a corner when most people at the sharp end aren't seeing or feeling any improvement is a huge gift for Labour... Who do you know? My wages are going up and my bills are going down. It's definitely feeling better for me.
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Post by happyhornet on May 24, 2024 13:02:54 GMT
Do we know what Sunak's policies are? The only one that springs to mind lately is Rwanda which has cost hundreds of millions of our money and hasn't worked. Seriously! You're asking what Sunak's policies are? Sunak has been PM for the best part of two years, anyone who doesn't know what his polices are must live in a box. You cite Rwanda. I think we all know it's not the best plan in the world, but it is a plan. On the other hand, Starmer says he will scrap Rwanda "even if it's working"! When asked how he will deal with illegals all he says is 'smash the gangs'. It's all any Labour MP ever says, they must have been briefed to give absolutely no detail and told to repeat ad nauseum "smash the gangs". It's like listening to robots. Is Labours almost total lack of detail on any migrant policy because: a) Starmer has no policy, or b) Starmer doesn't want voters to know exactly what Labour migrant policy is. Until he's in number 10. Answers on a post card kiddies. Should be easy for you to list Sunak's policies then.
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Post by jonksy on May 24, 2024 13:03:24 GMT
Do we know what Sunak's policies are? The only one that springs to mind lately is Rwanda which has cost hundreds of millions of our money and hasn't worked. Seriously! You're asking what Sunak's policies are? Sunak has been PM for the best part of two years, anyone who doesn't know what his polices are must live in a box. You cite Rwanda. I think we all know it's not the best plan in the world, but it is a plan. On the other hand, Starmer says he will scrap Rwanda "even if it's working"! When asked how he will deal with illegals all he says is 'smash the gangs'. It's all any Labour MP ever says, they must have been briefed to give absolutely no detail and told to repeat ad nauseum "smash the gangs". It's like listening to robots. Is Labours almost total lack of detail on any migrant policy because: a) Starmer has no policy, or b) Starmer doesn't want voters to know exactly what Labour migrant policy is. Until he's in number 10. Answers on a post card kiddies. Why do Labour always stop any effort by government to put a stop to the illegal immigration. It is clear that the vast majority of our citizens want an end to it,but Labour do not, it seems, and the good citizens seem helbent on putting him into the drivers seat. Beats me. if any of the prospective Labour voters have any ideas how to stop it, stop complaining about the tories efforts and come with your own ideas.....
Captain U-turn strikes again: Downbeat Keir Starmer complains 'we don't live in an ideal world' as he confirms he WON'T abolish tuition fees, rows back on green pledges, child poverty promises and scrapping Lords - blaming Covid and Liz Truss.......
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Post by happyhornet on May 24, 2024 13:07:05 GMT
When inflation was going up we were told that it had nothing to do with the government, but we're supposed to give them the credit when it comes down? The economy isn't too bad? For you perhaps, that's not the experience of people I know. Sunak and his party insisting the economy is turning a corner when most people at the sharp end aren't seeing or feeling any improvement is a huge gift for Labour. It plays into the out of touch Tory narrative, that they are essentially feeding us shit and calling it sugar. If I get mugged it has nothing to do with the police but the police get involved to remedy it. I don’t know of any country , no matter how rich, where no one is poor ( maybe some oil rich countries or tax havens ). If you think Labour is going to lead us into sunny uplands ( or whatever ) you are as naive as the ex remainers accused the brexiteers of being . I don't know about sunny uplands but I remember the last Labour government and I remember things being better then than they are now.
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