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Post by johnofgwent on May 25, 2024 13:38:57 GMT
The history of that area is highly complicated, but what we can say for absolute certainty is that there was a home for "The Israelites" ( the Jews ) and also for the Palestinians ( mostly Muslim ). Its a straight forward and simple answer to the question Of course there should be an independent and free Palestine, its the ONLY solution for both peoples ( the Israeli's & the Palestinians ) to live in peace. THere is no alternative Do you think that both could live in peace with each other if Hamas had a home in a free and independent Palestinian State? The Jews won't allow it. The Jews have been invading, shooting, bombing and bulldozing Palestinian people, towns, homes and land from the moment some British twat signed a declaration that they should be given a state in the middle east.
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Post by see2 on May 25, 2024 16:29:08 GMT
Why do you think the US is wary of stopping support for Israel? There is a definite will in the US to put things right and get a perspective on the real situation, by announcing sanctions in the first place, now they have been given the tools to get ahead of the game, by now they must realise the Israeli government is on a suicide mission and is going to drag them down with them, probably not Biden because he doesn't see anything coming and just makes threats everyone knows he cannot back up. He is way too deep in Israels twisted web. Why have you replied with a post that ignores my question??
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Post by sheepy on May 25, 2024 16:31:02 GMT
There is a definite will in the US to put things right and get a perspective on the real situation, by announcing sanctions in the first place, now they have been given the tools to get ahead of the game, by now they must realise the Israeli government is on a suicide mission and is going to drag them down with them, probably not Biden because he doesn't see anything coming and just makes threats everyone knows he cannot back up. He is way too deep in Israels twisted web. Why have you replied with a post that ignores my question?? Just using you, as even a troll should have their uses.
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Post by see2 on May 25, 2024 16:42:29 GMT
Do you think that both could live in peace with each other if Hamas had a home in a free and independent Palestinian State? The Jews won't allow it. The Jews have been invading, shooting, bombing and bulldozing Palestinian people, towns, homes and land from the moment some British twat signed a declaration that they should be given a state in the middle east. The Palestinian Arabs have indulged in attacking a killing unarmed (Dhimmi) Jews in Palestine for hundreds of years, the more so after the Arabs lost their rag in 1858 when the Ottomans removed the shackles of Dhimmitude from the Jews making the Jews equal under the law to the Arabs. When the "2 s s" was offered and the Israelis took it up the Arabs chose war and to wage a wars of annihilation against Israel. The Arabs chose war, but when they lost all three wars against the Jews / Israelis, they reverted to terrorism. The Arabs are the haters, the war mongers, they are the entirely sick side of events in Gaza. If the Arabs had at any time in the last 150 years (although its a bit late now) decided to live in peace with the Jews / Israelis, there would have been peace.
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Post by see2 on May 25, 2024 16:43:59 GMT
Why have you replied with a post that ignores my question?? Just using you, as even a troll should have their uses. Just proving what a sicko cowardly poster you are, well done.
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Post by Pacifico on May 25, 2024 17:37:55 GMT
The Muslim war against the Jew means the Palestinians will never accept statehood . They are the convenient victims the Muslims need to keep the lefty's of the western world onside . Peace isn't very profitable .
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Post by sandypine on May 25, 2024 18:13:26 GMT
Do you think that both could live in peace with each other if Hamas had a home in a free and independent Palestinian State? The Jews won't allow it. The Jews have been invading, shooting, bombing and bulldozing Palestinian people, towns, homes and land from the moment some British twat signed a declaration that they should be given a state in the middle east. I think you will find in the 20s and 30s it was very much a case of the Palestinian people killing Jews willy-nilly and demanding an end to Jewish immigration of any sort. The poor old mandate authorities tried numerous initiatives to bring about some form of agreement but the hatreds went deep and still do.
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Post by sheepy on May 25, 2024 18:15:56 GMT
Just using you, as even a troll should have their uses. Just proving what a sicko cowardly poster you are, well done. Don't be like that you troll everyone at every opportunity, I just use you to make a point.
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Post by ProVeritas on May 25, 2024 20:20:58 GMT
Oh look, it is just the fault of Brown Skinned Muslims again. All The Best The fault of extremist Muslims, absolutely, I like the honesty of calling a spade a spade.So you'll now call Netanyahu a belligerent, extremist, likely war criminal, right? Or is that an honesty too far? All The Best
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Post by ProVeritas on May 25, 2024 20:24:52 GMT
No, it was easy to find, less than 10 seconds. I, unlike many here, am very informed on this subject; I was following this issue back then as it happened - what about you? I am certain anyone genuinely informed and interested about this subject would be aware of this image back in 2006. The links to "iffy blogs" are irrelevant. It is a news story from a reputable news outlet, and that news story did contain that image when it was "live". But here's link to a reddit thread from 7 months ago, so you can see the image in question: www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/comments/17r1xhs/israeli_children_writing_messages_on_missiles/All The Best Thanks. I understand that more recently, names of those killed by Hamas in the October 7th massacre were written on bombs destined for Hamas. If that is true, I don't see a problem with that, as the action was a clear result of a casus belli for war. As far as being informed goes, no one could be more informed than you PV, according to you, PV.Lots of people are more informed than me on this subject. I see no evidence that more than or two of them are posting here though. All The Best
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Post by ProVeritas on May 25, 2024 20:30:54 GMT
The Jews won't allow it. The Jews have been invading, shooting, bombing and bulldozing Palestinian people, towns, homes and land from the moment some British twat signed a declaration that they should be given a state in the middle east. The Palestinian Arabs have indulged in attacking a killing unarmed (Dhimmi) Jews in Palestine for hundreds of years, the more so after the Arabs lost their rag in 1858 when the Ottomans removed the shackles of Dhimmitude from the Jews making the Jews equal under the law to the Arabs. When the "2 s s" was offered and the Israelis took it up the Arabs chose war and to wage a wars of annihilation against Israel. The Arabs chose war, but when they lost all three wars against the Jews / Israelis, they reverted to terrorism. The Arabs are the haters, the war mongers, they are the entirely sick side of events in Gaza. If the Arabs had at any time in the last 150 years (although its a bit late now) decided to live in peace with the Jews / Israelis, there would have been peace.Complete lie. Zionism has been around since the late 19th Century, Zionist Extremists (who are now in power in Israel) want all Non-Jews out of Eretz Israel. That will only happen via war, violence, and mass killing. All The Best
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Post by ProVeritas on May 25, 2024 20:36:50 GMT
The Muslim war against the Jew means the Palestinians will never accept statehood . They are the convenient victims the Muslims need to keep the lefty's of the western world onside . Peace isn't very profitable . So one example is enough to condemn all? Ok, then I give you Baruch Goldstein, a man held up as a hero by some in the current Israeli government. Does that now mean all Jews should be treated as terrorists? Or does it only work like that for brown people? All The Best
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Post by Pacifico on May 25, 2024 21:39:36 GMT
Why do you keep trying to bring racism into the discussion? - Palestinians look no different to Israelis.
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Post by ProVeritas on May 26, 2024 0:51:50 GMT
Why do you keep trying to bring racism into the discussion? - Palestinians look no different to Israelis. I don't. Its the Jews = Good / Muslims - Bad people that do that. You know, like you. All The Best
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Post by Pacifico on May 26, 2024 6:59:58 GMT
Why do you keep trying to bring racism into the discussion? - Palestinians look no different to Israelis. I don't. so why do you keep baning on about the colour of peoples skins? - you are the only poster doing that here.
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