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Post by morayloon on May 22, 2024 17:50:26 GMT
So, 65.5% of us see our Nationality as Scottish only; Scottish & British stands at 8.2% down 10.1%; British only is up 5.5% to 13.9%
I must say that the 65.5% figure is encouraging (up 3.1%) as it shows more people willing to identify as Scottish. It is good news because of the 90,400 population drop in Scots born, allied with an influx of 49,200 born elsewhere in the UK. Also there were 185,600 overseas born.
The number of people stating dual identity has dropped dramatically, with British only overtaking it.
It looks as though national identity is polarising and it is the Scottish/British category which is losing out
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2024 18:07:04 GMT
You should be ready to take your seat amongst the Reich.
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Post by thomas on May 23, 2024 6:25:40 GMT
So, 65.5% of us see our Nationality as Scottish only; Scottish & British stands at 8.2% down 10.1%; British only is up 5.5% to 13.9% I must say that the 65.5% figure is encouraging (up 3.1%) as it shows more people willing to identify as Scottish. It is good news because of the 90,400 population drop in Scots born, allied with an influx of 49,200 born elsewhere in the UK. Also there were 185,600 overseas born. The number of people stating dual identity has dropped dramatically, with British only overtaking it. It looks as though national identity is polarising and it is the Scottish/British category which is losing out scext is dead they cry!!! The jocks are back in their box they said!!! Two thirds of us see ourselves as Scottish in national identity only................tumbleweed. You won't get many comments on here I imagine moray , but it is interesting to see that dual nationality ,which was never that large to be fair , is dropping dramatically due to the constitutional question. |
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Post by om15 on May 23, 2024 7:59:16 GMT
As many of those supposedly declaring themselves Scottish come from the Punjab and wear Muslim Tartan underpants it is of little consequence.
One thing for sure is that no one in England is remotely interested.
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Post by Dan Dare on May 23, 2024 8:31:25 GMT
Tommo's jibes about English football being a one-horse race are intended to deflect discussion away from the inconvenient fact that no club other than Celtic or Rangers has won the Scottish top division since Aberdeen in 1985.
And interestingly the most recent Old Firm match featured eight Englishmen on the pitch and only four Scots. There were as many Japanese players on view as Scottish.
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Post by sandypine on May 23, 2024 10:34:48 GMT
So, 65.5% of us see our Nationality as Scottish only; Scottish & British stands at 8.2% down 10.1%; British only is up 5.5% to 13.9% I must say that the 65.5% figure is encouraging (up 3.1%) as it shows more people willing to identify as Scottish. It is good news because of the 90,400 population drop in Scots born, allied with an influx of 49,200 born elsewhere in the UK. Also there were 185,600 overseas born. The number of people stating dual identity has dropped dramatically, with British only overtaking it. It looks as though national identity is polarising and it is the Scottish/British category which is losing out It could be in part due to the observation that 'British' has become something more oblique and less desirous than in the past. British is now not a catch all for the four home nations and those welcomed to join in because they want to. It is a blank cheque for all and sundry to claim some form of belonging to something the value of which has been traduced mainly by our representatives for reasons most varied and at worst nefarious. There is little pride attached to British now and the destruction of its value, its history and its place in the world is an ongoing, and if the census is true, successful enterprise. |
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Post by morayloon on May 23, 2024 10:52:47 GMT
As many of those supposedly declaring themselves Scottish come from the Punjab and wear Muslim Tartan underpants it is of little consequence. One thing for sure is that no one in England is remotely interested. And, yet, here you are commenting on a Scottish thread in the Scottish forum. You just couldn't make it up |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2024 10:55:06 GMT
As many of those supposedly declaring themselves Scottish come from the Punjab and wear Muslim Tartan underpants it is of little consequence. One thing for sure is that no one in England is remotely interested. True. However, it wouldn't take an awful lot of English folk to colonise Scotland, at least enough to save it from the growing Nazism up there. |
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Post by om15 on May 23, 2024 11:03:33 GMT
You have plenty to say on the British threads.
There doesn't appear to be much appetite among the formerly chatty SNP supporters on here, no comments abouts missing funds, ferries, health services, schools, potholes and pending court cases, so we English have to step in to keep the Jock threads alive, our pleasure.
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Post by morayloon on May 23, 2024 12:00:26 GMT
Tommo's jibes about English football being a one-horse race are intended to deflect discussion away from the inconvenient fact that no club other than Celtic or Rangers has won the Scottish top division since Aberdeen in 1985. And interestingly the most recent Old Firm match featured eight Englishmen on the pitch and only four Scots. There were as many Japanese players on view as Scottish. Indeed so! But, given that England's population is eleven times that of Scotland, you'd expect many more teams to have won that country's top league. In the time frame mentioned only 9 have. 13 titles were won by the 2 Manchester clubs; 10 by London clubs (Arsenal & Chelsea); and 6 by the two Liverpool clubs. Doesn't sound much different to the Scottish situation. As for the number of Englishmen playing in a Rangers v Celtic match. I have looked at the top English clubs' squads and found this. Man City: squad 22, 6 English players. Arsenal: squad 25, 7 English players. Liverpool: squad 28, English players 8. Foreign players competing in other national leagues than their own is a worldwide phenomenon. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2024 12:11:13 GMT
Around one million English folk, sorry, British folk in the south, will be more than enough to save Scotland. We just need a good estate agent to cover the southern Scottish areas. Any recommendations? Maybe those Londoners who are leaving could be persuaded. One on here already moved to Ireland.
It's actually a viable plan.
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Post by om15 on May 23, 2024 12:20:26 GMT
I spent part of my childhood in Dumfriesshire and later on a few years in Moray, both were great places and I liked living there. But the way Scotland is at the moment I would rather relocate to Bogata than go back there. Bogata has less corrupt politicians, better roads and a more amiable population.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2024 12:28:54 GMT
I spent part of my childhood in Dumfriesshire and later on a few years in Moray, both were great places and I liked living there. But the way Scotland is at the moment I would rather relocate to Bogata than go back there. Bogata has less corrupt politicians, better roads and a more amiable population. It will be difficult to persuade people. But if we paid people to move there in high numbers and relatively fast, Scotland could be saved one area at a time. The horrible and corrupt Snats will of course commit to racism toward the arrivals in the hope of driving them out, but the police will have take action to keep them safe.
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Post by ProVeritas on May 23, 2024 12:29:14 GMT
I spent part of my childhood in Dumfriesshire and later on a few years in Moray, both were great places and I liked living there. But the way Scotland is at the moment I would rather relocate to Bogata than go back there. Bogata has less corrupt politicians, better roads and a more amiable population. Better weather too. All The Best |
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Post by Dan Dare on May 23, 2024 13:32:47 GMT
Indeed so! But, given that England's population is eleven times that of Scotland, you'd expect many more teams to have won that country's top league. In the time frame mentioned only 9 have. 13 titles were won by the 2 Manchester clubs; 10 by London clubs (Arsenal & Chelsea); and 6 by the two Liverpool clubs. Doesn't sound much different to the Scottish situation. As for the number of Englishmen playing in a Rangers v Celtic match. I have looked at the top English clubs' squads and found this. Man City: squad 22, 6 English players. Arsenal: squad 25, 7 English players. Liverpool: squad 28, English players 8. Foreign players competing in other national leagues than their own is a worldwide phenomenon. Seems your abacus could do with new batteries. In the forty seasons since Aberdeen won the Scottish First Division, eight clubs have won the top division in England: Man Utd (13), Man City (8), Arsenal (5), Chelsea (5), Liverpool (4), Everton (2), Blackburn (1), Leicester (1) and Leeds (1). Contrary to your claim to the contrary, this sounds very different to the Scottish situation where the last forty championships have been won by two clubs from a single city.
As for foreign players, it's true that the Premier League is over-endowed with overseas players however they are generally established current internationals as the squads for 2024 will no doubt show. In 2020, there were more EPL players at the Euros than from any other league. The Old Firm otoh have to make do with second stringers - none of the English players in either squad have been selected for the Euros.
Over half of Scotland's 2024 squad ply their trade in England, and another three in other foreign leagues, which also highlights the paucity of local talent in the domestic leagues
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