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Post by Bentley on May 23, 2024 13:41:00 GMT
Tommo's jibes about English football being a one-horse race are intended to deflect discussion away from the inconvenient fact that no club other than Celtic or Rangers has won the Scottish top division since Aberdeen in 1985. And interestingly the most recent Old Firm match featured eight Englishmen on the pitch and only four Scots. There were as many Japanese players on view as Scottish. Indeed so! But, given that England's population is eleven times that of Scotland, you'd expect many more teams to have won that country's top league. In the time frame mentioned only 9 have. 13 titles were won by the 2 Manchester clubs; 10 by London clubs (Arsenal & Chelsea); and 6 by the two Liverpool clubs. Doesn't sound much different to the Scottish situation. As for the number of Englishmen playing in a Rangers v Celtic match. I have looked at the top English clubs' squads and found this. Man City: squad 22, 6 English players. Arsenal: squad 25, 7 English players. Liverpool: squad 28, English players 8. Foreign players competing in other national leagues than their own is a worldwide phenomenon. No different from most other European leagues afaik.
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Post by jonksy on May 23, 2024 13:44:22 GMT
So, 65.5% of us see our Nationality as Scottish only; Scottish & British stands at 8.2% down 10.1%; British only is up 5.5% to 13.9% I must say that the 65.5% figure is encouraging (up 3.1%) as it shows more people willing to identify as Scottish. It is good news because of the 90,400 population drop in Scots born, allied with an influx of 49,200 born elsewhere in the UK. Also there were 185,600 overseas born. The number of people stating dual identity has dropped dramatically, with British only overtaking it. It looks as though national identity is polarising and it is the Scottish/British category which is losing out
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Post by Bentley on May 23, 2024 14:17:23 GMT
Not a problem for grown up Brits . “ Are you British “ yeah “ Are you English “ yeah “Are you Scottish “ OF COURSE I AM ! “Are you British “ HOOTS MON ! No!
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2024 14:36:16 GMT
Not a problem for grown up Brits . “ Are you British “ yeah “ Are you English “ yeah “Are you Scottish “ OF COURSE I AM ! “Are you British “ HOOTS MON ! No!It was Scotland's Tony Blair who pushed mass-immigration to England only. It's only fair that we reciprocate and organise a mass-movement to Scotland. It's a cure to their problem. Many Scots will thank us, since they're being driven out by Snats, many of which are actually from Ireland.
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Post by Dogburger on May 23, 2024 16:37:50 GMT
Excellent news for the men in skirts ,whens the referendum ?
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Post by ProVeritas on May 23, 2024 20:23:02 GMT
Nice to see John Swinney doing a Johnson and protecting an ally form the just censure he deserves.
So many Scots claim the Scottish Parliament is less corrupt than Westminster, but this shows that is cloud-cuckoo thinking. Kind of like the idea Scotland can afford to be weaned off of the Westminster teat.
All The Best
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Post by jonksy on May 23, 2024 21:03:52 GMT
Good timing or what? Report over alleged embezzlement of SNAT's funds by Sturgeonfurer's husband........ Police Scotland has sent a report to prosecutors in relation to Sturgeonfurer's husband Peter Murrell after the former SNAT chief executive was charged with embezzling party funds. The force announced the move on Thursday, saying in a statement: 'Police Scotland has today submitted a standard prosecution report to the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service in relation to a 59-year-old man who was charged on April 18 2024 in connection with the embezzlement of funds from the Scottish National Party. 'Investigations continue and we are unable to comment further.' This happened as the SNATS today launched its campaign for the upcoming General Election in Westminster.
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Post by thomas on May 24, 2024 8:38:56 GMT
Tommo's jibes about English football being a one-horse race are intended to deflect discussion away from the inconvenient fact that no club other than Celtic or Rangers has won the Scottish top division since Aberdeen in 1985. And interestingly the most recent Old Firm match featured eight Englishmen on the pitch and only four Scots. There were as many Japanese players on view as Scottish. we aren't the ones arrogantly squealing year after year that we are the greatest footballing nation on earth while sneering at everyone else. The facts of course show otherwise as ever. I am of course flattered dan that the Englishman chooses to compare the greatest footballing nation on earth with the mighty scotland , but just as scotland has obviously been a two horse race since the mid eighties , England , which is ten times the population , has largely been a five horse race since the 1991. That doesn't detract from the fact though that England is now a one horse race , despite the waffle about competition , and Man City have won the English league 4 times in a row and 7 out of ten times over the last decade. With a squad that is 75 % foreign.With foreign managers. Foreign owners. Like much of the premier league. My point is we lowly untermenschen are told the English premier league is the greatest league in the world , which is true , but doesn't mention the fact the foreign mercenaries make that the case. No the English. This is reflected in the fact England has the worst international footballing record of the worlds top footballing nations in terms of trophies. France even has more international trophies despite how poor its league has been historically , where even Scottish clubs have won more European club competitions than French. So whats going wrong dan? English players can't win anything without foreigners , and the Arabs single horse keeps winning the race ?
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Post by thomas on May 24, 2024 8:43:15 GMT
One thing for sure is that no one in England is remotely interested. Thanks for jumping on the thread ommy to squeal you dont care. If only that were true. Wiser heads can see the political problems that are being displayed for your country regarding the census. It interesting those that were once comfortable with the dual identity are shrinking , and we are becoming polarised between the brits and non brits.
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Post by thomas on May 24, 2024 8:46:55 GMT
You have plenty to say on the British threads. There doesn't appear to be much appetite among the formerly chatty SNP supporters on here, no comments abouts missing funds, ferries, health services, schools, potholes and pending court cases, so we English have to step in to keep the Jock threads alive, our pleasure. we do. We aren't claiming we dont care while commenting though , and recognise the fact Scotland is unfortunately part of the uk prison system under Westminster. Even now , you still dont get Scottish independence isnt about one party , the snp but a wider movement based on the belief we as Scots need to be an independent nation to thrive. Did you vote Brexit because Nigel garage and ukip told you , or because you believed England ( or greater England) would be better off outside?
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Post by thomas on May 24, 2024 8:55:55 GMT
Indeed so! But, given that England's population is eleven times that of Scotland, you'd expect many more teams to have won that country's top league. In the time frame mentioned only 9 have. 13 titles were won by the 2 Manchester clubs; 10 by London clubs (Arsenal & Chelsea); and 6 by the two Liverpool clubs. Doesn't sound much different to the Scottish situation. As for the number of Englishmen playing in a Rangers v Celtic match. I have looked at the top English clubs' squads and found this. Man City: squad 22, 6 English players. Arsenal: squad 25, 7 English players. Liverpool: squad 28, English players 8. Foreign players competing in other national leagues than their own is a worldwide phenomenon. Seems your abacus could do with new batteries. In the forty seasons since Aberdeen won the Scottish First Division, eight clubs have won the top division in England: Man Utd (13), Man City (8), Arsenal (5), Chelsea (5), Liverpool (4), Everton (2), Blackburn (1), Leicester (1) and Leeds (1). Contrary to your claim to the contrary, this sounds very different to the Scottish situation where the last forty championships have been won by two clubs from a single city.
As for foreign players, it's true that the Premier League is over-endowed with overseas players however they are generally established current internationals as the squads for 2024 will no doubt show. In 2020, there were more EPL players at the Euros than from any other league. The Old Firm otoh have to make do with second stringers - none of the English players in either squad have been selected for the Euros.
Over half of Scotland's 2024 squad ply their trade in England, and another three in other foreign leagues, which also highlights the paucity of local talent in the domestic leagues
waffle waffle waffle. Addressed time and again if you care to read what is being said. Why doesn't England ever win anything then? Without the Arab oil money , the Spanish managers , and foreign mercenaries , the EPL is left with the English national team , the biggest underachievers in world football led by a manager , Southgate , famous in the football world for failure. Famous for missing a penalty for his country , getting his club side middlesborough humped in a Uefa final 5 nil , and losing the European championship final to an average Italian side in your own backyard that couldnt even qualify for the World Cup two years later from their Uefa group. As I said dan , im flattered the Englishman thinks so much of the mighty scotland he constantly gripes and compares his wee country to ours in the football world like much else. Meanwhile , the worlds real big footballing nations are too busy counting their trophies , and planning on winning new ones .
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Post by thomas on May 24, 2024 9:02:07 GMT
Indeed so! But, given that England's population is eleven times that of Scotland, you'd expect many more teams to have won that country's top league. In the time frame mentioned only 9 have. 13 titles were won by the 2 Manchester clubs; 10 by London clubs (Arsenal & Chelsea); and 6 by the two Liverpool clubs. Doesn't sound much different to the Scottish situation. As for the number of Englishmen playing in a Rangers v Celtic match. I have looked at the top English clubs' squads and found this. Man City: squad 22, 6 English players. Arsenal: squad 25, 7 English players. Liverpool: squad 28, English players 8. Foreign players competing in other national leagues than their own is a worldwide phenomenon. No different from most other European leagues afaik. I think that's the point being made to dan though. It's normal for smaller footballing nations to be dominated by the same few teams. In scotland , its rangers and Celtic , in holland , psv , Ajax and Feyenoord , and even In the bigger nations , Barcelona and real have dominated Spanish football. However , it is unusual whats happening in England with Man City. Could be just the natural progression of the buying trophies model of the modern era , where Man City are now so fabulously wealthy the rest in your country can't touch them. Or it could be the rumours of financial impropriety , and the 115 charges of corruption and financial misconduct mean like Glasgow rangers , they are cheating. Time will tell.
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Post by thomas on May 24, 2024 9:05:53 GMT
LMFAO.
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Post by Vinny on May 24, 2024 10:58:58 GMT
Abolition of devolution would give whoever advocated it a thumping majority in the national Parliament in London.
Down with the SNATs.
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Post by thomas on May 24, 2024 11:31:45 GMT
Abolition of devolution would give whoever advocated it a thumping majority in the national Parliament in London. Down with the SNATs. go for it Vinny. overruling the popular democratic opinion of the vast majority of Scots , including many unionists , is the surest way of ending the uk . I suppose though that's your level of ingenuity , pretending a problem doesn't exist by trying to sweep it under the carpet. dont let us hold you back.
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