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Post by Hutchyns on Jul 3, 2024 20:24:05 GMT
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 3, 2024 20:24:30 GMT
You clearly don't and seem to believe that telling lies makes it true. Reform is simply where the Conservatives should have been if the Tories didn't decide to compete with Labour instead of opposing them. Reform is only saying what the Tories promised the people when they won a majority in the last election.
Labour won't win the election, the Tories will simply lose it to keep the charade going.
This is why Reform is being attacked by the establishment, which is full of establishment liars, actors and far-left extremists who justify and celebrate terrorist attacks.
So when Margaret Thatcher massively increased borrowing in the early 1980s in the face of a recession, she was not been truly Conservative ?, this seems to be what you are inferring, no borrowing when the nation has to. The Conservative Party has never been anything like Reform UK, and many great Conservative statesmen would be appaled at Reform UK, people like Harold MacMillan and Edward Heath, as are many Conservatives today. Most Conservatives would never contemplate withdrawing from the ECHR, or playing with Xenophobia. Reform UK are a milder form of the British National Party, NOT Conservatives.
Absolute nonsense, fiddles. |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 3, 2024 20:27:07 GMT
So when Margaret Thatcher massively increased borrowing in the early 1980s in the face of a recession, she was not been truly Conservative ?, this seems to be what you are inferring, no borrowing when the nation has to. The Conservative Party has never been anything like Reform UK, and many great Conservative statesmen would be appaled at Reform UK, people like Harold MacMillan and Edward Heath, as are many Conservatives today. Most Conservatives would never contemplate withdrawing from the ECHR, or playing with Xenophobia. Reform UK are a milder form of the British National Party, NOT Conservatives.
Absolute nonsense, fiddles. He’s talking to a mirror. Anyone but ignorant lefties know this isn’t true . |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 3, 2024 20:35:45 GMT
You clearly don't and seem to believe that telling lies makes it true. Reform is simply where the Conservatives should have been if the Tories didn't decide to compete with Labour instead of opposing them. Reform is only saying what the Tories promised the people when they won a majority in the last election.
Labour won't win the election, the Tories will simply lose it to keep the charade going.
This is why Reform is being attacked by the establishment, which is full of establishment liars, actors and far-left extremists who justify and celebrate terrorist attacks.
So when Margaret Thatcher massively increased borrowing in the early 1980s in the face of a recession, she was not been truly Conservative ?, this seems to be what you are inferring, no borrowing when the nation has to. The Conservative Party has never been anything like Reform UK, and many great Conservative statesmen would be appaled at Reform UK, people like Harold MacMillan and Edward Heath, as are many Conservatives today. Most Conservatives would never contemplate withdrawing from the ECHR, or playing with Xenophobia. Reform UK are a milder form of the British National Party, NOT Conservatives. Stopping human trafficking is not xenophobia. 7 year old drowned. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-684617945 drowned including a child. www.lemonde.fr/en/europe/article/2024/04/23/at-least-five-migrants-including-a-child-die-attempting-to-cross-english-channel_6669257_143.html27 drowned. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-5940635560 feared drowned. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-67740331This needs to fucking stop.
Being kind is killing them.
Putting them up in hotels, is a big invitation to die trying to get here.
Sorry if this offends you, but being cruel to be kind is the only way to save lives.
One way of being cruel to be kind is to deport so many illegal immigrants that the rest stop trying and dying to get here.
Another is to put so many illegal immigrants into tented misery that the rest stop trying and dying to get here.
The gangs have started trying to use the ECHR as a weapon against us, I understand the argument for leaving it, even though I disagree with the argument for leaving it.
Supporting Reform is not the same as supporting the BNP.
The BNP have been destroyed, since then, like many extremists, you require an enemy, so you've invented a new one.
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 3, 2024 21:05:18 GMT
What policies does Reform have that makes them 'Far right'? This should be interesting, if you get a reply that is. Unfortunately it seems not. I thought it a rather simple question but....  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2024 21:21:20 GMT
So when Margaret Thatcher massively increased borrowing in the early 1980s in the face of a recession, she was not been truly Conservative ?, this seems to be what you are inferring, no borrowing when the nation has to. The Conservative Party has never been anything like Reform UK, and many great Conservative statesmen would be appaled at Reform UK, people like Harold MacMillan and Edward Heath, as are many Conservatives today. Most Conservatives would never contemplate withdrawing from the ECHR, or playing with Xenophobia. Reform UK are a milder form of the British National Party, NOT Conservatives. Stopping human trafficking is not xenophobia. 7 year old drowned. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-684617945 drowned including a child. www.lemonde.fr/en/europe/article/2024/04/23/at-least-five-migrants-including-a-child-die-attempting-to-cross-english-channel_6669257_143.html27 drowned. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-5940635560 feared drowned. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-67740331This needs to fucking stop.
Being kind is killing them.
Putting them up in hotels, is a big invitation to die trying to get here.
Sorry if this offends you, but being cruel to be kind is the only way to save lives.
One way of being cruel to be kind is to deport so many illegal immigrants that the rest stop trying and dying to get here.
Another is to put so many illegal immigrants into tented misery that the rest stop trying and dying to get here.
The gangs have started trying to use the ECHR as a weapon against us, I understand the argument for leaving it, even though I disagree with the argument for leaving it.
Supporting Reform is not the same as supporting the BNP.
The BNP have been destroyed, since then, like many extremists, you require an enemy, so you've invented a new one.
To compare the BNP to Reform only highlights how retarded and dishonest these Hamas boys are. The BNP were basically old Labour, and not too different to Jeremy Corbyn's old socialism, and he also ended up with a Jews control everything fixation. |
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Post by ratcliff on Jul 3, 2024 21:30:10 GMT
Why is it that any political party who makes gains over a lefty one is branded ... far-right?
Any alternative to a left party is instantly labeled far-right
They've got away with it for years especially branding Farage Far Right racist every time he opened his mouth.
Now the millions who called him that because they followed like sheep ......baa baa baa baa .. are now saying we agree with Farage on immigration and we aren't far right racists, some of the biggest whingers and whingers about illegal migrant accommodation being set up in their area is coming from the .... Lefty Liberals ... lol
The CDU of Germany is not far right, it is Centre Right, and Angela Merkel would be closer politicaly to Keir Starmer than to Nigel Farage. The UK Conservative Party is also Centre Right, however the National Rally (National Front) of France is Far Right, as is Reform UK. I know the difference between traditional Centre Right (Conservative) political parties and the far Right, but it seems you confuse the two. Conservative party members are centre right , however the Conservative parliamentary party is in trouble because doesn't listen to the members and certainly isn't centre right , at best it's centrist |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jul 3, 2024 23:32:53 GMT
This sums up Farage’s immense popularity in a nutshell…
… on the nail!
I reckon the smear campaign is going to fail … and Farage could be accelerated into No.10 sooner than he anticipated.
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Post by Vinny on Jul 4, 2024 7:03:45 GMT
Paul Joseph Watson used to pretend that the 11th September 2001 terrorist attacks were an "inside job", the guy used to work with the conman Alex Jones. The man is an arsehole.
Reform don't need his help.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jul 4, 2024 7:20:02 GMT
What a lovely blue sky day … to ignore the handful of rather pathetic smears we’ve seen from a rather hysterical MSM… and go out and VOTE REFORM.
…. I think the God’s are smiling on Britain today … we can smell a possibility of REAL POLITICAL CHANGE in the air … but only if we take a massive gamble … ignore the Deep State/Netanyahu Posse controlled propaganda … and VOTE for a real alternative …. PEACE and PROSPERITY.
A LABOUR/ TORY VOTE is a WASTED VOTE … that doesn’t deliver any change in direction this Parliament has gone in years … Brexit arguable was blocked and not delivered by this House and Whitehall … that is still to be realigned and sorted … LABOUR in Opposition was a ‘joke’ … and supported war in Ukraine.
If you don’t want your children dying on the killing fields of Ukraine … which is what Vinny and his 9/11 engineers want … grow some balls and protect your Families and Communities … and get out and VOTE to STOP IT HAPPENING.
War-criminals like B.Liar and Sunak shouldn’t have a platform in our Parliament.
VOTE REFORM NOW …
… Don’t say you weren’t warned … as you stand by the gravestones of your loved ones at the next Ukraine Memorial Cenotaph Celebrations.
FOOTNOTE ASIDE:
[Naturally, Sunak won’t be there … he and his family are apparently moving to America if his election campaign is a disaster here. … these fly-by-nights who get in bed with Globalists … are all the same.
It’s a shame … he’s a very bright guy … and could have been a great UK PM … if he had gone about electioneering and getting into No. 10 in the correct way … through a National voting ballot box …
…. Not shoe-horned in by the WEF + a Zionist Posse of quangos controlling The Monday Club.
… the Democrats in the U.S. could desperately use his talents right now … I’m sure he could mutate to being American in no time at all … these chameleon politicians … like actors - are good at moving into new territories and assuming the identity of Locals ]
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Post by vlk on Jul 4, 2024 8:28:57 GMT
So, today is the final full day of the Tory-government until perhaps the latter half of the 2030s when the pendulum swings again.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 4, 2024 8:34:33 GMT
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 4, 2024 8:57:36 GMT
I'll make a prediction. It will be the dirtiest campaigns we have ever seen. You should have put a bet on that |
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Post by Vinny on Jul 4, 2024 9:02:41 GMT
If you don’t want your children dying on the killing fields of Ukraine … which is what Vinny and his 9/11 engineers want … grow some balls and protect your Families and Communities … and get out and VOTE to STOP IT HAPPENING. You can cut it out with your bollocks. The only one supporting war in Ukraine is you. You supported Putin's theft of Donetsk, Luhansk and Crimea and supported the attempted theft of Odesa by Wagner Group terrorists. You support the full invasion and bombing of civilians so shove your lies where the sun doesn't shine. And when it comes to Reform, Nigel Farage is not on Putin's side. |
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 4, 2024 9:54:43 GMT
Ukraine did not make any move to join NATO .... UNTIL RUSSIA INVADED UKRAINIAN TERRITORY
And no matter what Farage says or believes or thinks, if a free and independent country such as Latvia or Poland chooses to belong to the NATO defence pact, it has got absolutely nothing what so ever to do with Vladimir Putin.
But not only that, NATO is no threat to Russia, I know that, Farage knows it, and Putin knows it.
If Nigel Farage thinks that Putin ought to have a veto on which nations are allowed to join either the EU or NATO, then we have effectively surrendered to him.
Boris Johnson is right on Ukraine, as is Keir Starmer, Rishi Sunak, Nigel Farage is out of step with history.
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