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Post by witchfinder on Jul 3, 2024 14:15:04 GMT
THe ONLY reason why SOME European states are turning to the nasty far Right is Immigration, and no other reason.
We are living through a period of history where War, Economic Turmoil, Famine, Climate Change and other factors are driving people to move.
Whether it be France, Sweden, Italy or Germany, its the one issue which unites these voters - immigration.
It has little to do with "Woke" or "Liberal lefties" or even "Euroscepticism".
The far Right in Germany has no policy or suggestion of withdrwal from the EU, neither does Marine Le Pen's party in France or the Conservative Reformists of Sweden.
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jul 3, 2024 14:21:23 GMT
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 3, 2024 14:21:32 GMT
THe ONLY reason why SOME European states are turning to the nasty far Right is Immigration, and no other reason. We are living through a period of history where War, Economic Turmoil, Famine, Climate Change and other factors are driving people to move. Whether it be France, Sweden, Italy or Germany, its the one issue which unites these voters - immigration. It has little to do with "Woke" or "Liberal lefties" or even "Euroscepticism". The far Right in Germany has no policy or suggestion of withdrwal from the EU, neither does Marine Le Pen's party in France or the Conservative Reformists of Sweden. Listen stop trying to pull the wool over our eyes.
No one would give a flying fuck if these immigrants worked hard, contributed to society, and lead a decent respectful life in their host country. (I am sure there are decent ones among them)
It is not up to the host country to root out the good from the bad, hence the reason most European countries and the UK are getting FLOODED with criminal undesirables , who are fleeing their own country either because they are lazy useless fuckers, or they are wanted for crimes. They are flying under the radar to get to European countries including the UK to escape justice .......that's why Europe is turning Right .. because the Left have lost the plot.... and the likes of you play the old 'Racist' card rather than stand up and admit you got it wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2024 14:22:19 GMT
I speak for over 500 million people.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2024 14:24:47 GMT
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 3, 2024 14:25:40 GMT
THe ONLY reason why SOME European states are turning to the nasty far Right is Immigration, and no other reason. We are living through a period of history where War, Economic Turmoil, Famine, Climate Change and other factors are driving people to move. Whether it be France, Sweden, Italy or Germany, its the one issue which unites these voters - immigration. It has little to do with "Woke" or "Liberal lefties" or even "Euroscepticism".
The far Right in Germany has no policy or suggestion of withdrwal from the EU, neither does Marine Le Pen's party in France or the Conservative Reformists of Sweden. Well it could be argued that the reason the centre-left has failed on immigration throughout Europe (including the UK) is that they are too obsessed with liberal woke policies that put the Culture War ahead of the welfare of the people. Once you start to look at every issue through the prism of race, gender and slavery it becomes very easy to believe in open borders. |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 3, 2024 14:31:25 GMT
Labour candidate for Clacton, Jovan Owusu-Nepau, said his favourite drink is white mens tears, and that he was standing in Clacton (which is 96% white) for black and brown people. So not only is he openly racist, he's a thick racist who is still a Labour candidate and still has the confidence of Starmer. I wonder what you would be saying about Jovan if he was a Reform candidate, lol. You don't disappoint, you're a typical opportunist lefty. It's what we expect. Sorry Red the mud slinging hasn't worked. It worked for the racist candidate who threw it at white people. What does that say about Labour and its supporters? |
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Post by witchfinder on Jul 3, 2024 14:35:17 GMT
THe ONLY reason why SOME European states are turning to the nasty far Right is Immigration, and no other reason. We are living through a period of history where War, Economic Turmoil, Famine, Climate Change and other factors are driving people to move. Whether it be France, Sweden, Italy or Germany, its the one issue which unites these voters - immigration. It has little to do with "Woke" or "Liberal lefties" or even "Euroscepticism".
The far Right in Germany has no policy or suggestion of withdrwal from the EU, neither does Marine Le Pen's party in France or the Conservative Reformists of Sweden. Well it could be argued that the reason the centre-left has failed on immigration throughout Europe (including the UK) is that they are too obsessed with liberal woke policies that put the Culture War ahead of the welfare of the people. Once you start to look at every issue through the prism of race, gender and slavery it becomes very easy to believe in open borders. The centre Left have failed on immigration, as has the centre Right From Germanys Centre Right CDU to France's Centrist government, from Social Democratic governments to Conservative governments, none of them seem to have the answer. What about our government of the last 14 years ? ... how Left wing do you think they have been, and what's their record on immigration. ? Its simply Bull Shit to ascribe the immigration problems to "The Left" Posters have suggested here that as some EU nations turn to the Far Right, its the end of the European Union, how dishonest, and how far removed from reality. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 3, 2024 14:47:10 GMT
Well it could be argued that the reason the centre-left has failed on immigration throughout Europe (including the UK) is that they are too obsessed with liberal woke policies that put the Culture War ahead of the welfare of the people. Once you start to look at every issue through the prism of race, gender and slavery it becomes very easy to believe in open borders. The centre Left have failed on immigration, as has the centre Right From Germanys Centre Right CDU to France's Centrist government, from Social Democratic governments to Conservative governments, none of them seem to have the answer. What about our government of the last 14 years ? ... how Left wing do you think they have been, and what's their record on immigration. ? Its simply Bull Shit to ascribe the immigration problems to "The Left" Posters have suggested here that as some EU nations turn to the Far Right, its the end of the European Union, how dishonest, and how far removed from reality. Why is it that any political party who makes gains over a lefty one is branded ... far-right?
Any alternative to a left party is instantly labeled far-right
They've got away with it for years especially branding Farage Far Right racist every time he opened his mouth.
Now the millions who called him that because they followed like sheep ......baa baa baa baa .. are now saying we agree with Farage on immigration and we aren't far right racists, some of the biggest whingers and whingers about illegal migrant accommodation being set up in their area is coming from the .... Lefty Liberals ... lol
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 3, 2024 14:47:49 GMT
Well it could be argued that the reason the centre-left has failed on immigration throughout Europe (including the UK) is that they are too obsessed with liberal woke policies that put the Culture War ahead of the welfare of the people. Once you start to look at every issue through the prism of race, gender and slavery it becomes very easy to believe in open borders. The centre Left have failed on immigration, as has the centre Right From Germanys Centre Right CDU to France's Centrist government, from Social Democratic governments to Conservative governments, none of them seem to have the answer. What about our government of the last 14 years ? ... how Left wing do you think they have been, and what's their record on immigration. ? Its simply Bull Shit to ascribe the immigration problems to "The Left" Posters have suggested here that as some EU nations turn to the Far Right, its the end of the European Union, how dishonest, and how far removed from reality. Countries in Europe that really are right-wing do not have the problem with immigration that we see in countries with more left leaning Governments. |
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Post by zanygame on Jul 3, 2024 15:21:14 GMT
The EU polls weren't that far out. Its just that it was such an important question that people remember. Mostly they got it wrong because of assumption on voting numbers. Remainers were overconfident and too many didn't vote. I don't imagine that happening this time, do you? The only good thing if Labour do get into power is that Europe is turning Right wing, they've had a belly full of Liberal lefty snowflake wokeism taking over their countries.
France is a good example, so Starmer peddling his socialism lefty woke snowflake agenda might find it difficult to get his chums in the EU to play ball, most of Europe will be having their 'Exit' referendums, while poor old lefty Starmer will be looking at ways of rejoining ... that's the kind of daft bastard we'll have to put up with.
France is your only example. |
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Post by borchester on Jul 3, 2024 15:24:12 GMT
The centre Left have failed on immigration, as has the centre Right From Germanys Centre Right CDU to France's Centrist government, from Social Democratic governments to Conservative governments, none of them seem to have the answer. What about our government of the last 14 years ? ... how Left wing do you think they have been, and what's their record on immigration. ? Its simply Bull Shit to ascribe the immigration problems to "The Left" Posters have suggested here that as some EU nations turn to the Far Right, its the end of the European Union, how dishonest, and how far removed from reality. Countries in Europe that really are right-wing do not have the problem with immigration that we see in countries with more left leaning Governments. All I can see are a lot of pretty girls being ignored by the menfolk ?
Each to his own I suppose, but I reckon that those lads are missing out
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 3, 2024 15:27:16 GMT
The only good thing if Labour do get into power is that Europe is turning Right wing, they've had a belly full of Liberal lefty snowflake wokeism taking over their countries.
France is a good example, so Starmer peddling his socialism lefty woke snowflake agenda might find it difficult to get his chums in the EU to play ball, most of Europe will be having their 'Exit' referendums, while poor old lefty Starmer will be looking at ways of rejoining ... that's the kind of daft bastard we'll have to put up with.
France is your only example. Errr this might be the reason... don't you follow the news?
France goes to polls as far right eyes historic win
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Post by zanygame on Jul 3, 2024 15:27:26 GMT
Sorry Red the mud slinging hasn't worked. It worked for the racist candidate who threw it at white people. What does that say about Labour and its supporters? No it didn't. It had little effect on the vote or the polls. A shitty self indulgent greedy lying government is what placed the Tories so low in the polls. You may like to think Boris breaking Covid rules was just Boris being Boris, but for many people it destroyed trust and called into doubt his integrity. Then when he said he had a plan to get Brexit done and it didn't work, Boris blamed the EU but people remembered that lack of integrity. That's why I said Trust is everything. |
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Post by zanygame on Jul 3, 2024 15:28:43 GMT
Countries in Europe that really are right-wing do not have the problem with immigration that we see in countries with more left leaning Governments. All I can see are a lot of pretty girls being ignored by the menfolk ?
Each to his own I suppose, but I reckon that those lads are missing out
I think the girls would be pretty annoyed at looking their best and being ignored. |
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