ginnyg2
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Post by ginnyg2 on Jun 27, 2024 8:53:04 GMT
Leaders debate on now if Starmer says one more time “when I was chief prosecutor “ I might end up being prosecuted It was like watching England play Slovenia. |
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Post by wapentake on Jun 27, 2024 8:53:49 GMT
Leaders debate on now if Starmer says one more time “when I was chief prosecutor “ I might end up being prosecuted It was like watching England play Slovenia.  |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 27, 2024 9:03:13 GMT
Not quite, get out of the EU and our government have the ability to control all immigration, the next step of course is getting a government to carry out the wishes of the people. Leaving the EU was a step. I was talking about what was said. Nigel never said and your government will have the ability to stop immigration. And my point was that FoM would have been fine if we hadn't spent decades before propping up our economy by inviting millions from across the globe to live here. If Nigel was trying to be honest with the people, that's what he would have said. And that still holds true 8 years after leaving FoM, staying in would have meant less people coming here than the ones we have invited. Time to wake up and smell the reality Nigel had his own reasons for wanting us out of the EU, he just found one most appealing to the British public. Nigel could have informed the public that there was no need to leave the EU to stop immigration LOL! CamoBlair tried that and got told to fuck off.
Brexit was the result.
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 27, 2024 10:10:13 GMT
I'd like to know who this charity is that is buying houses for asylum seekers..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2024 10:21:27 GMT
I'd like to know who this charity is that is buying houses for asylum seekers.. The police are a disgrace and clearly corrupt to the core for following through on this.
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Post by witchfinder on Jun 27, 2024 10:25:37 GMT
PENSIONS
If fairness really means fairness, then can anyone explain why the state pension ought to be the ONLY kind of income which is exempt from Income Tax. ?
Or to put this another way, why should pensioners be the ONLY section of the population to be singled out to have their own special tax ceiling, a different Income Tax threshold to everyone else. ?
What about working families on low incomes ?
At present no pensioner pays income tax on their state pension - IF - that is their only source of income, because obviously it falls below the tax threshold.
In the financial year 2027-28 the state pension will just fall into the tax threshold, and at worst it could mean that pensioners would pay about 50p per week ( FIFTY PENCE ).
This is clearly a scheme to Buy Votes, pensioners are the demographic group in society with the most disposable income, generally the wealthiest group in the population, but pensioners are also the group most likely to vote Conservative.
If the Tories were in the slightest bit interested in helping ordinary people, then a pensioner earning £13,000 per year + help with rent, surely would not mind paying 50p per week to help those at the other end of the chain, young people starting off in life and REALLY struggling.
All this wind and whaff from Sunak about taxing pensioners amounts to less than the price of a cheap loaf of bread per week.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 27, 2024 10:35:16 GMT
PENSIONS If fairness really means fairness, then can anyone explain why the state pension ought to be the ONLY kind of income which is exempt from Income Tax. ? Or to put this another way, why should pensioners be the ONLY section of the population to be singled out to have their own special tax ceiling, a different Income Tax threshold to everyone else. ? What about working families on low incomes ? At present no pensioner pays income tax on their state pension - IF - that is their only source of income, because obviously it falls below the tax threshold. In the financial year 2027-28 the state pension will just fall into the tax threshold, and at worst it could mean that pensioners would pay about 50p per week ( FIFTY PENCE ). This is clearly a scheme to Buy Votes, pensioners are the demographic group in society with the most disposable income, generally the wealthiest group in the population, but pensioners are also the group most likely to vote Conservative. If the Tories were in the slightest bit interested in helping ordinary people, then a pensioner earning £13,000 per year + help with rent, surely would not mind paying 50p per week to help those at the other end of the chain, young people starting off in life and REALLY struggling. All this wind and whaff from Sunak about taxing pensioners amounts to less than the price of a cheap loaf of bread per week. Why are the left so obsessed with pensioners? Why does it enrage them so much that someone who's worked their whole life might enjoy a comfortable retirement?
Pensioners have, in the main, paid for their pensions quite handsomely over many years.
It makes far more sense to be concerned about the £billions being handed to scroungers who've never contributed a penny in their lives.
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Post by ratcliff on Jun 27, 2024 10:39:25 GMT
PENSIONS If fairness really means fairness, then can anyone explain why the state pension ought to be the ONLY kind of income which is exempt from Income Tax. ? Or to put this another way, why should pensioners be the ONLY section of the population to be singled out to have their own special tax ceiling, a different Income Tax threshold to everyone else. ? What about working families on low incomes ? At present no pensioner pays income tax on their state pension - IF - that is their only source of income, because obviously it falls below the tax threshold. In the financial year 2027-28 the state pension will just fall into the tax threshold, and at worst it could mean that pensioners would pay about 50p per week ( FIFTY PENCE ). This is clearly a scheme to Buy Votes, pensioners are the demographic group in society with the most disposable income, generally the wealthiest group in the population, but pensioners are also the group most likely to vote Conservative. If the Tories were in the slightest bit interested in helping ordinary people, then a pensioner earning £13,000 per year + help with rent, surely would not mind paying 50p per week to help those at the other end of the chain, young people starting off in life and REALLY struggling. All this wind and whaff from Sunak about taxing pensioners amounts to less than the price of a cheap loaf of bread per week. Witchy your I hate OAPs pointy finger is mis-aimed Benefits handouts packages are income and are not taxable and generally pay a far higher income to spongers than taxable OAP pension pays to the elderly. A couple of years ago in evidence in a child neglect trial it emerged that defendant sponging parents were receiving benefit handouts package of £7000 a month - untaxed. Even the laughably named benefit cap (its anything but a cap) pays handouts as untaxed income of in excess of £20000 per year to spongers If fairness really means fairness why is the handouts income package not taxable ? |
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Post by witchfinder on Jun 27, 2024 10:44:56 GMT
Its hypocricy that a government gives very special terms, or treats a section of society differently when you consider that for over a decade most public sector workers got either no annual pay rise, or a pay rise below inflation.
Perhaps if we explained to a pensioner on a MINIMUM of £13,000 PA, and getting free rent, that the measly 50p they pay each week in tax might shorten their wait for a knee operation, or a cataract procedure.
Its 100% wrong - the Income Tax threshold must be the same for everyone, no special opt-outs.
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Post by ratcliff on Jun 27, 2024 11:01:20 GMT
Its hypocricy that a government gives very special terms, or treats a section of society differently when you consider that for over a decade most public sector workers got either no annual pay rise, or a pay rise below inflation. Perhaps if we explained to a pensioner on a MINIMUM of £13,000 PA, and getting free rent, that the measly 50p they pay each week in tax might shorten their wait for a knee operation, or a cataract procedure. Its 100% wrong - the Income Tax threshold must be the same for everyone, no special opt-outs. You therefore must surely agree that handout packages in excess of the personal tax allowance to welfare spongers should be fully taxable at standard income tax rates paid by their funders? If not what ,in your opinion , makes benefits spongers packages ''special''? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 27, 2024 11:13:09 GMT
Benefits handouts packages are income and are not taxable and generally pay a far higher income to spongers than taxable OAP pension pays to the elderly. I'm sure we had this conversation recently on the mind zone, but I pointed out that while Universal Credit is not taxable, Jon Seekers Allowance is. |
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Post by ratcliff on Jun 27, 2024 11:21:45 GMT
Benefits handouts packages are income and are not taxable and generally pay a far higher income to spongers than taxable OAP pension pays to the elderly. I'm sure we had this conversation recently on the mind zone, but I pointed out that while Universal Credit is not taxable, Jon Seekers Allowance is. Yes , I highlighted the lefty pretence that handouts don't come as a package ( they do) if you care to look back Why are you repeating your previous posted lefty misinformation that Job seekers/ESA is taxable per se - it isn't.
(ESA) and jobseeker's allowance (JSA) can be taxable if they are paid based on National Insurance contributions you have made, or can be non-taxable if they are instead means-tested (based on your financial situation).Another Win-win for the never/hardly worked handouts sponger www.litrg.org.uk/tax-nic/how-tax-collected/tax-state-benefits#:~:text=You%20need%20to%20be%20careful,based%20on%20your%20financial%20situation). |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 27, 2024 11:27:30 GMT
Its hypocricy that a government gives very special terms, or treats a section of society differently when you consider that for over a decade most public sector workers got either no annual pay rise, or a pay rise below inflation. Just like millions of PRIVATE sector employees then I didn’t get a fucking penny pay rise from 2010 to 2020 |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jun 27, 2024 11:31:13 GMT
Its hypocricy that a government gives very special terms, or treats a section of society differently when you consider that for over a decade most public sector workers got either no annual pay rise, or a pay rise below inflation. Perhaps if we explained to a pensioner on a MINIMUM of £13,000 PA, and getting free rent, that the measly 50p they pay each week in tax might shorten their wait for a knee operation, or a cataract procedure. Its 100% wrong - the Income Tax threshold must be the same for everyone, no special opt-outs. You therefore must surely agree that handout packages in excess of the personal tax allowance to welfare spongers should be fully taxable at standard income tax rates paid by their funders? If not what ,in your opinion , makes benefits spongers packages ''special''? Now, will the response be silence or bluster?  |
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Post by sandypine on Jun 27, 2024 11:44:41 GMT
Not quite, get out of the EU and our government have the ability to control all immigration, the next step of course is getting a government to carry out the wishes of the people. Leaving the EU was a step. I was talking about what was said. Nigel never said and your government will have the ability to stop immigration. And my point was that FoM would have been fine if we hadn't spent decades before propping up our economy by inviting millions from across the globe to live here. If Nigel was trying to be honest with the people, that's what he would have said. And that still holds true 8 years after leaving FoM, staying in would have meant less people coming here than the ones we have invited. Time to wake up and smell the reality Nigel had his own reasons for wanting us out of the EU, he just found one most appealing to the British public. Nigel could have informed the public that there was no need to leave the EU to stop immigration It was clearly stated that immigration from outside the EU was in the control of government and FOM in the EU meant that we had little control of who arrived from teh EU. To control all immigration leaving the EU was a necessity but beyond that being honest with the British people was that if one is a member of a trading bloc such as the EU then laws and regulations are made by the bloc as a whole in whatever manner has been arranged. To be a sovereign nation leaving the EU was both desirable and necessary. |
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