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Post by Fairsociety on May 23, 2024 18:08:54 GMT
Savers drain pension pots ahead of Labour tax raid.......None of us will have a pot to piss in when labour infests the HOC. Savers are draining their pots to avoid Labour taxes ahead of the general election, advisers have said. In withdrawing their pensions before they need them savers are incurring income tax charges in order to avoid a looming Labour raid. Pensions used to be subject to the Lifetime Allowance (LTA) of £1,073,100, with pensioners hit by a 55pc tax charge on lump sums or a 25pc charge on other withdrawals when their pot exceeded that amount......
Exactly, Sunak has given the nation including pensions/savers/home owners/investors/tax payers a early warning to sort out their financial affairs before Labour clobber them, you can't say fairer than that.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 23, 2024 18:30:12 GMT
Irrelevant poster is irrelevant.
Nigel isn't standing, he clearly wants no part of the ensuing shit show and I don't blame him.
And you're relevant are you? 😂 Nope. Same as you. Same as Nigel.
So stop trying assume relevance, there's a person.
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Post by johnofgwent on May 23, 2024 20:24:45 GMT
Savers drain pension pots ahead of Labour tax raid.......None of us will have a pot to piss in when labour infests the HOC. Savers are draining their pots to avoid Labour taxes ahead of the general election, advisers have said. In withdrawing their pensions before they need them savers are incurring income tax charges in order to avoid a looming Labour raid. Pensions used to be subject to the Lifetime Allowance (LTA) of £1,073,100, with pensioners hit by a 55pc tax charge on lump sums or a 25pc charge on other withdrawals when their pot exceeded that amount......
so what exactly is Captain fence sitter the zionist’s friend going to do ??
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2024 21:08:37 GMT
Labour is going to raise taxes, increase state, increase debt and import millions more third worlders. Basically, do exactly what the Tories are doing. At the end of the day there is no change, except for the worst. If you plan on sticking around this will go on for five years, during which time corruption will increase, fascist rent-a-mobs, who are working with Islamists, will be attacking genuine conservatives to try and hold onto power.
Anyone enthusiastic for Labour are most likely foreign imports who have no care for the well being of decent people and just want free handouts until the economy flatlines completely. They know who they are, and they hate the Jews too, because they're programmed to support Islamism - their extreme and violent hand.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2024 21:17:37 GMT
I think you're right, but he does have some followers, and may have got more votes for Reform rather than Tory, so a bit of a shame. and then what? - a few more votes for Reform is not going to change the outcome of the election. So compare the 2 elections - the UK gets to choose between 2 left of centre parties (two cheeks of the same arse as gorgeous George would say) and the US gets to choose between 2 men with diverse ideas in an election that has worldwide significance. What election is the most important? It's the most logical answer.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2024 21:29:14 GMT
You could be right. None of us can say for certainty what will happen. But I think you are far more likely to be wrong. Yes I think the polls might narrow a bit and yes the Tories will probably poll a little better on the day than the worst polling suggests. But voting patterns in byelections and local elections recently have been throwing up a lot of evidence for widespread anti-Tory tactical voting, as if most voters aside from die hard Tories have decided they want to see the back of them and are prepared to vote for whomever can best defeat them. At least in England. There may also be an anti-SNP factor in Scotland. This means that whilst the Lib Dems might poll nationally only in single figures, they are likely to do far better where they are the main challengers to the Tories and take seats with the help of Labour supporters. Also Labour might poll nationally well below 40 percent but are likely to do much better in just those seats where they are best placed to defeat the Tory. Anti-Tory tactical voting - if it happens on any significant scale - will doom the Tories much more than overall vote share. There is precedent for polls to narrow substantially. Labour almost wiped out a huge Tory poll lead in 2017, and there is of course the John Major Tory victory of 1992. And unseen events can change things radically, as the Falklands War did for Thatcher. And of course Reform and Farage are wild cards. If they challenge the Tories from the right they are likely to damage the Tory vote still further. But if they do a secret deal - which cannot be entirely ruled out - to stand down and back the Tories in return for a right wing agenda after any victory, then that would obviously substantially shore up the Tory vote. Because whilst many floating voters and centrists and former red wall voters are deserting the Tories for Labour and other moderate parties. the Tory hard core are increasingly leaning towards Reform. Some sort of deal that involves Reform standing down could radically alter Tory fortunes or at least limit the damage sufficiently to make a hung parliament more likely You may be right. I accept a Tory win looks most unlikely, I also think a Labour landslide is equally unlikely, and I don't think Reform will do as well as some people think they will. A lot of people talk about voting intentions but when it comes down to it, when it comes to polling day and putting that X on the ballot paper, I think a lot of people will hold their nose and vote Tory. Perhaps not enough to swing it for Sunak, but enough to deny Starmer a landslide, possibly enough to force a hung parliament which would be an absolute disaster for Starmer. As far as I can see, broadly speaking, people don't particularly like Sunak, but they don't trust Starmer. I tend to agree with most of that. There is no great love of, or trust in, Starmer out there. If Labour wins a majority - and that does seem most likely right now - it will largely be on the basis of them being the Not The Tories Party. If Labour wins on such a basis, support for the incoming Labour government will rapidly dissipate unless Labour is seen to deliver something better for most people who voted for them, and to be seen to be doing so quite early on.
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Post by jonksy on May 23, 2024 21:32:39 GMT
Savers drain pension pots ahead of Labour tax raid.......None of us will have a pot to piss in when labour infests the HOC. Savers are draining their pots to avoid Labour taxes ahead of the general election, advisers have said. In withdrawing their pensions before they need them savers are incurring income tax charges in order to avoid a looming Labour raid. Pensions used to be subject to the Lifetime Allowance (LTA) of £1,073,100, with pensioners hit by a 55pc tax charge on lump sums or a 25pc charge on other withdrawals when their pot exceeded that amount......
so what exactly is Captain fence sitter the zionist’s friend going to do ?? You can bet it will only make matters worse for the average Joe.
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Post by borchester on May 24, 2024 0:15:01 GMT
You may be right. I accept a Tory win looks most unlikely, I also think a Labour landslide is equally unlikely, and I don't think Reform will do as well as some people think they will. A lot of people talk about voting intentions but when it comes down to it, when it comes to polling day and putting that X on the ballot paper, I think a lot of people will hold their nose and vote Tory. Perhaps not enough to swing it for Sunak, but enough to deny Starmer a landslide, possibly enough to force a hung parliament which would be an absolute disaster for Starmer. As far as I can see, broadly speaking, people don't particularly like Sunak, but they don't trust Starmer. I tend to agree with most of that. There is no great love of, or trust in, Starmer out there. If Labour wins a majority - and that does seem most likely right now - it will largely be on the basis of them being the Not The Tories Party. If Labour wins on such a basis, support for the incoming Labour government will rapidly dissipate unless Labour is seen to deliver something better for most people who voted for them, and to be seen to be doing so quite early on. At the risk of repeating myself. I can't see Starmer doing much of anything. He hasn't done much so far and is unlikely to do much in the future. The bulk of the population are neither homeless nor impoverished and they have little desire to put their hands in their pockets for the extra and unnecessary benefits of such layabouts as the smug left cares to to dredge up. So Sir Keir will just do a Rishi Sunak. He will sit back, do zilch and enjoy being PM
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Post by happyhornet on May 24, 2024 6:17:10 GMT
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Post by Fairsociety on May 24, 2024 7:58:01 GMT
The sad part about it Starmer doesn't want to tell us any of his (bad) policies, he doesn't want to and he doesn't have to, he's already won the General Election by Default, so his plan of action is to say or do nothing, it's already in the bag.
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Post by piglet on May 24, 2024 9:36:38 GMT
Thinking about the Farage thing, i wonder if he might of over engineered things. There is the Labour disaster about to happen, and the battles therein. Farage wont be there, and a new hero might emerge, that of Richard Tice, while Farage sidelines himself. There is mileage in the idea that hes more concerned about the USA.
Or is it something else thats holding him back, that of failure, the fear of it, that a politician like him should be able to stand in any seat and win it, which is not the case, that it is people like us that would vote for him, but we are a small minority.
Which brings up an even more disturbing thought that the vast majority are left wing woke warriors that will destroy any form of government,....for evermore, plunging the country into permanent chaos, like it is now.
Like the next government which will be labour, that not onlky will the right try to remove it, but the majority of the left.
Meanwhile, the voice of stability and common sense, that of Tice and Farage, goes unheard, even ignored, that governments will have constant change. AS IT HAS BEEN UNDER MAY JOHNSON AND NOW SUNAK.
My contempt for Sunak has no bottom to it, he is, and was a total disaster. Its l;ike we put a clown in charge,he is proof that you can elect a pigs bladder on a stick as prime minister.
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Post by thomas on May 24, 2024 9:46:43 GMT
I did laugh when one of the comments said lets be fair to Rishi , the welsh are gonna lap up Englands mortifying quarter final exit. Piss taking aside , the guy is awful. I dont even think Theresa may could have been that out of touch. Hope he doesn't stumble into a Scottish fan zone in Munich with his morris dancing bells on asking how everyone is. What a leg end that man is.
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Post by happyhornet on May 24, 2024 10:03:27 GMT
I did laugh when one of the comments said lets be fair to Rishi , the welsh are gonna lap up Englands mortifying quarter final exit. Piss taking aside , the guy is awful. I dont even think Theresa may could have been that out of touch. Hope he doesn't stumble into a Scottish fan zone in Munich with his morris dancing bells on asking how everyone is. What a leg end that man is. Actually I've got us down for heart breaking defeat against France in the semi finals in a rerun of the world cup quarter final.
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Post by thomas on May 24, 2024 10:24:47 GMT
I did laugh when one of the comments said lets be fair to Rishi , the welsh are gonna lap up Englands mortifying quarter final exit. Piss taking aside , the guy is awful. I dont even think Theresa may could have been that out of touch. Hope he doesn't stumble into a Scottish fan zone in Munich with his morris dancing bells on asking how everyone is. What a leg end that man is. Actually I've got us down for heart breaking defeat against France in the semi finals in a rerun of the world cup quarter final. us? there's no `us` mate. `us ` Scots aren't cheering you on either , we are one of your adversaries. If `us` Scots do our usual , then my second team will of course be the auld allies France. I think it's gonna take more than your country being successful in the euros to save Rishi sunak. What a plank of wood that man is.
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Post by happyhornet on May 24, 2024 10:54:11 GMT
Actually I've got us down for heart breaking defeat against France in the semi finals in a rerun of the world cup quarter final. us? there's no `us` mate. `us ` Scots aren't cheering you on either , we are one of your adversaries. If `us` Scots do our usual , then my second team will of course be the auld allies France. I think it's gonna take more than your country being successful in the euros to save Rishi sunak. What a plank of wood that man is. By us I mean England, my team. I also often refer to my club side Watford as "us", so do other football fans. Chill out.
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