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Post by Fairsociety on May 23, 2024 9:10:58 GMT
Here's another thing bugging me, haven't No.10 heard of umbrellas. Perhaps he decided that he could court popularity by becoming a wet? Starmer looks like that without rain. |
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Post by buccaneer on May 23, 2024 9:30:49 GMT
I think this is a poison chalice of their own making to a huge extent, and one the Tory's enabled when they installed the so-called "adult back into the room" - Rishi Sunak. Deep down the Tory's would love to hand the mess they've left over. They don't have the will or the way to lead the country.
Problem is, Starmer will enjoy such a chalice because his more 'progressive' politics will fit hand to glove with the Civil Service and all DEI institutions/departments/banks/globalists/brands etc. who have a natural knee-jerk reaction to conservative/traditionalist politics.
It will be a good day if you are part of the "global majority", can't see what good it would be for the rest of us though.
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Post by happyhornet on May 23, 2024 9:38:32 GMT
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 23, 2024 9:49:02 GMT
And if he stood and lost you'd doubtless be crowing about that.
Nothing to see here, move along.
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Post by andrewbrown on May 23, 2024 10:00:00 GMT
And if he stood and lost you'd doubtless be crowing about that.
Nothing to see here, move along.
I think you're right, but he does have some followers, and may have got more votes for Reform rather than Tory, so a bit of a shame. I also agree with HH that I can't get my head around a patriot thinking the US election is more important than ours. Was Brexit all for nothing? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 23, 2024 10:03:47 GMT
And if he stood and lost you'd doubtless be crowing about that. Nothing to see here, move along.
I think you're right, but he does have some followers, and may have got more votes for Reform rather than Tory, so a bit of a shame. I also agree with HH that I can't get my head around a patriot thinking the US election is more important than ours. Was Brexit all for nothing? Well, he did say that the US election had “global significance” whereas “The choice between Labour and the Conservatives is uninspiring". And he's right. Indeed, on the latter point I said very similar myself yesterday: ...Replacing one set of shitheads with another, virtually indistinguishable set? |
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Post by Dogburger on May 23, 2024 10:05:17 GMT
On the World stage they are . Farage has had what 7 goes at getting elected on a right wing ticket and has probably realised that while its a bit of fun the support is not really there to win a seat . We as people don't like extremist politics either left or right and the man in the middle wins every seat in the country every time . Thats not to say some of the rights policies on say immigration , law and order and the environment couldn't be a popular fit with centralist voters but its a hard slog to pull them away in any numbers from the traditional parties . I think he will wait and see what way the Tories go after their defeat . If they go with the right wing and visibly move that way that will be the end of it for Farage and Reform ,their position in the political map taken . If however the Tories move left toward Labour who I suspect will move a notch left themselves then he may give it a go next time . There will be an ocean full of votes to be hovered up and Farage will see it as game on as the only centre right and a bit more right party . |
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Post by happyhornet on May 23, 2024 10:05:22 GMT
And if he stood and lost you'd doubtless be crowing about that.
Nothing to see here, move along.
I think you're right, but he does have some followers, and may have got more votes for Reform rather than Tory, so a bit of a shame. I also agree with HH that I can't get my head around a patriot thinking the US election is more important than ours. Was Brexit all for nothing? I've always suspected that Farrage doesn't have a patriotic bone in his body, he's the Milli Vanilli of patriots. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 23, 2024 10:09:17 GMT
I think you're right, but he does have some followers, and may have got more votes for Reform rather than Tory, so a bit of a shame. I also agree with HH that I can't get my head around a patriot thinking the US election is more important than ours. Was Brexit all for nothing? I've always suspected that Farrage doesn't have a patriotic bone in his body, he's the Milli Vanilli of patriots. Irrelevant poster is irrelevant.
Nigel isn't standing, he clearly wants no part of the ensuing shit show and I don't blame him.
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Post by Fairsociety on May 23, 2024 10:14:54 GMT
I've always suspected that Farrage doesn't have a patriotic bone in his body, he's the Milli Vanilli of patriots. Irrelevant poster is irrelevant.
Nigel isn't standing, he clearly wants no part of the ensuing shit show and I don't blame him.
Yes Farage is subjected to horrendous vile disgusting left-wing abuse, if that same horrendous vile disgusting abuse and threats was aimed at a left wing candidate we'd never hear the end of it, there would be arrests galore the police would hunting down the culprits, unlike they do for Farage ...because he 'deserves it'. Typical double standard lefty hypocrisy. |
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Post by witchfinder on May 23, 2024 10:17:55 GMT
I think Farage is keeping his distance from Reform UK because he has one eye on rejoining the Conservative Party.
If the Tories lose the election, there s going to be a battle for the heart and direction of the party, and if the Right wing win, there will probably be a place for Farage, and othe Right wing loons.
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Post by buccaneer on May 23, 2024 10:28:27 GMT
And if he stood and lost you'd doubtless be crowing about that.
Nothing to see here, move along.
I think you're right, but he does have some followers, and may have got more votes for Reform rather than Tory, so a bit of a shame. I also agree with HH that I can't get my head around a patriot thinking the US election is more important than ours. Was Brexit all for nothing? Strategically, for his politics he may think it's better off focusing on getting Trump into office rather than the dourness of politicians vying for PM in the UK. After all, the US president is one of the most powerful and influential people in the world & Starmer & co. won't have a politically natural ally on the other side of the pond where their brand of politics doesn't influence or inspire people like Trump. Farage could be ensuring the orthodoxy of globalism doesn't get to carry on ad hoc, and someone like Trump influencing the balance of power will ruffle people like Starmer and Lammy on issues like foreign policy, defense and trade even. I don't know what Trump's chances are like in the US elections, as I personally have very little interest in US politics, but strategically in the short to medium term this seems like a pretty astute move from Farage. A better bet hedged too. |
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Post by ratcliff on May 23, 2024 10:39:09 GMT
Here's another thing bugging me, haven't No.10 heard of umbrellas. I read somewhere that aides took consideration of how the optics of someone holding a brolly for him would be portrayed by the opposition as him being out of touch with those who have to hold their own brollies |
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Post by Fairsociety on May 23, 2024 10:44:33 GMT
Here's another thing bugging me, haven't No.10 heard of umbrellas. I read somewhere that aides took consideration of how the optics of someone holding a brolly for him would be portrayed by the opposition as him being out of touch with those who have to hold their own brollies I think they've overthought it, I'm sure most people would be thinking if he can't manage to keep himself dry in a downpour not much chance of him managing the country. |
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Post by happyhornet on May 23, 2024 10:52:17 GMT
Irrelevant poster is irrelevant.
Nigel isn't standing, he clearly wants no part of the ensuing shit show and I don't blame him.
Yes Farage is subjected to horrendous vile disgusting left-wing abuse, if that same horrendous vile disgusting abuse and threats was aimed at a left wing candidate we'd never hear the end of it, there would be arrests galore the police would hunting down the culprits, unlike they do for Farage ...because he 'deserves it'. Typical double standard lefty hypocrisy. Does the name Jo Cox mean anything to you? How about Rosie Cooper? www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-48306380Abuse and threats against any politician is disgusting and unacceptable, let's not pretend it just happens to right wing politicians. |
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