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Post by zanygame on Jun 7, 2024 6:55:13 GMT
Depends how much value you put in a logo. But I say the way its run now is of far greater concern. The need to urgently build pylons across East Anglia because they just noticed all those wind turbines in the wash. That to me sounds far more damning than having to change a logo. Indeed the choice of logo is only because the election was called so suddenly. But mostly from my point of view, I lean towards energy independency offered by wind energy and the cheaper power this will eventually lead to. Why Pylons? Cost, lack of planning. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jun 7, 2024 6:57:43 GMT
Notice our patriotic Starmer/Rayner/Abbott don't appear to be anywhere honoring out D-Day veterans ... oh that's right they hate anything English/British... Gobshites. Starmer was there and stayed longer than Sunak. Another example of Fairsociety making up shit and then presenting as fact. Something he does often. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 7, 2024 6:58:09 GMT
GB Energy is going to be funded to the tune of £8 Billion - where is the other £85 Billion coming from? In short, the future. In more detail, wind energy is cheaper to produce than gas, so if we continue to pay the same as we were for gas (Not the crazy Putin prices) the difference can be used to pay for the development. No more Tory short termism please. Oh please, not that bunkum. Wind energy is certainly not cheaper than gas - the operators have already said that unless they are getting £75 per MwH their operations are uneconomic. And that was before you add in the back up costs to ensure continuity of supply. |
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Post by sheepy on Jun 7, 2024 7:01:54 GMT
You don't see a problem with that then, Zany. The good folk of Norfolk might well do though. |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 7, 2024 7:06:58 GMT
In short, the future. In more detail, wind energy is cheaper to produce than gas, so if we continue to pay the same as we were for gas (Not the crazy Putin prices) the difference can be used to pay for the development. No more Tory short termism please. Oh please, not that bunkum. Wind energy is certainly not cheaper than gas - the operators have already said that unless they are getting £75 per MwH their operations are uneconomic. And that was before you add in the back up costs to ensure continuity of supply. I provided you a picture. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2024 7:13:54 GMT
Oh please, not that bunkum. Wind energy is certainly not cheaper than gas - the operators have already said that unless they are getting £75 per MwH their operations are uneconomic. And that was before you add in the back up costs to ensure continuity of supply. I provided you a picture. Maybe you should just provide the site you copy and paste from. This would save a lot of time. After all, anyone can post images on wikimedia and cannot be used as a reliable source. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jun 7, 2024 7:30:39 GMT
Oh please, not that bunkum. Wind energy is certainly not cheaper than gas - the operators have already said that unless they are getting £75 per MwH their operations are uneconomic. And that was before you add in the back up costs to ensure continuity of supply. I provided you a picture. And I provided you with the reality. No wind producer is going to invest in any project that doesn't have a guaranteed price of at least £75MwH - projects that are priced at less than this are being cancelled. |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 7, 2024 7:35:04 GMT
I provided you a picture. And I provided you with the reality. No wind producer is going to invest in any project that doesn't have a guaranteed price of at least £75MwH - projects that are priced at less than this are being cancelled. Your reality. One that includes the building of the turbines into the short term cost of the generation. Hence short termism. Bought by the wonderous Tories. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jun 7, 2024 7:39:17 GMT
Notice our patriotic Starmer/Rayner/Abbott don't appear to be anywhere honoring out D-Day veterans ... oh that's right they hate anything English/British... Gobshites. Starmer was there and stayed longer than Sunak. Another example of Fairsociety making up shit and then presenting as fact. Something he does often. It's worse than that, Sunak left early to go and do a campaign interview, a campaign he is running on presenting himself as more trustworthy than his opponent on national security and bringing back national service as a flagship policy. As you say Starmer stayed for the duration and met Zelensky after Sunak had scarpered. The optics couldn't have been much worse. “I think it’s political malpractice of the highest order if Rishi Sunak absented himself for an election interview… it’s not the right thing to do at a fundamental level.” Conservative commentator Tim Montgomerie on reports as to why the PM left D-Day event early. x.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1798844486254223487?t=gEXNGFWkzJC5qHoP3SuQLA&s=19 |
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Post by sheepy on Jun 7, 2024 7:39:58 GMT
And I provided you with the reality. No wind producer is going to invest in any project that doesn't have a guaranteed price of at least £75MwH - projects that are priced at less than this are being cancelled. Your reality. One that includes the building of the turbines into the short term cost of the generation. Hence short termism. Bought by the wonderous Tories. Well actually what you are arguing about is the need to put basic commodities back under UK control, which the Tories and previous Labour governments have sold off to the highest bidder. Which is now coming back to bite them with a vengeance. I think one thing I have seen Labour and Tory voters agree on is that basic commodities should never be in foreign control. The ugly side of taking globalism to its limits and telling people that is what is good for them, but never was. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jun 7, 2024 7:40:00 GMT
Starmer was there and stayed longer than Sunak. Another example of Fairsociety making up shit and then presenting as fact. Something he does often. It's worse than that, Sunak left early to go and do a campaign interview, a campaign he is running on presenting himself as more trustworthy than his opponent on national security and bringing back national service as a flagship policy. As you say Starmer stayed for the duration and met Zelensky after Sunak had scarpered. The optics couldn't have been much worse. “I think it’s political malpractice of the highest order if Rishi Sunak absented himself for an election interview… it’s not the right thing to do at a fundamental level.” Conservative commentator Tim Montgomerie on reports as to why the PM left D-Day event early. x.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1798844486254223487?t=gEXNGFWkzJC5qHoP3SuQLA&s=19Just imagine the reaction in the right wing media if say Jeremy Corbyn had done that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2024 7:44:54 GMT
I provided you a picture. And I provided you with the reality. No wind producer is going to invest in any project that doesn't have a guaranteed price of at least £75MwH - projects that are priced at less than this are being cancelled. I'm sure there's money to be made from it by those who are forcing it upon the people, at their expense. There's just no benefits for those forced to pay for it in the short or long-term. It certainly sounds like Labour. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 7, 2024 7:45:57 GMT
Notice our patriotic Starmer/Rayner/Abbott don't appear to be anywhere honoring out D-Day veterans ... oh that's right they hate anything English/British... Gobshites. Starmer was there and stayed longer than Sunak. Another example of Fairsociety making up shit and then presenting as fact. Something he does often. Calm down andrea, you wont see him Rayner or Abbott waving the Union Jack, they'd rather be waving the 12 Gold stars FFS |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Jun 7, 2024 7:51:55 GMT
Starmer was there and stayed longer than Sunak. Another example of Fairsociety making up shit and then presenting as fact. Something he does often. Calm down andrea, you wont see him Rayner or Abbott waving the Union Jack, they'd rather be waving the 12 Gold stars FFS "Shameless Rishi Sunak forced to apologise for leaving D-Day commemorations early Prime Minister Rishi Sunak had been facing a furious backlash after he ducked out early from D-Day events to do an ITV interview about his flagging General Election campaign" www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-rishi-sunak-forced-apologise-32979464#google_vignette |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jun 7, 2024 8:01:30 GMT
Calm down andrea, you wont see him Rayner or Abbott waving the Union Jack, they'd rather be waving the 12 Gold stars FFS "Shameless Rishi Sunak forced to apologise for leaving D-Day commemorations early Prime Minister Rishi Sunak had been facing a furious backlash after he ducked out early from D-Day events to do an ITV interview about his flagging General Election campaign" www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-rishi-sunak-forced-apologise-32979464#google_vignetteWhy would he want to stand with a bunch of lefty hypocrites including Macron, Biden ...they only want to recognise lefty leaders, that's why ALL Tory leaders get the cold shoulder at any of these events. |
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