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Post by patman post on May 27, 2024 20:06:17 GMT
Most UK news media is owned and directed by Tory-supporting and peerage-seeking proprietors and mainly staffed by cowed political scribblers held by their pay-checks. Basing predictions of future opinion poll findings without any support from current results is plain grabbing at fictitious straws. I’m not calling the results of this coming election, but I’m hoping for an outright Labour win. The population of the UK doesn’t deserve to be put through the wringer operated by power hungry ultra right europhobes, who are bent on their futile attempt to prove this small offshore island has the same clout it had two centuries ago… More lefty bollocks.. Happy to recant if you can list a majority of those UK news organs not owned and operated by non-commercial capitalist organisations or proprietors…
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Post by Bentley on May 27, 2024 20:06:59 GMT
And you understand that Tories will tend to get harder questions than Starmer because Starmer hasn’t actually done much that is significant. Or more likely, Labour has done little that’s dragged the UK into the mire that is most voters are experiencing today… Because they have done nothing of significance.
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Post by see2 on May 27, 2024 20:08:42 GMT
Just like last time. Oh wait....It took a world banking crash. More zany bollocks......Pssst want to buy some cheap gold.. Pssst, how about the selling off of our oil, natural gas, water, electricity etc. along with 4 million unemployed a huge rise in children living in R/poverty and two huge economic black holes where the NHS and State education used to be?
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Post by jonksy on May 27, 2024 20:08:54 GMT
And you understand that Tories will tend to get harder questions than Starmer because Starmer hasn’t actually done much that is significant. Or more likely, Labour has done little that’s dragged the UK into the mire that is most voters are experiencing today… FFS bankrupted the country illegal war, FOM, HR, PIF, PIE, flogging gold well below market value. High unemployement and NHS waiting lists. Devolution. increased student loans, A&E unit closures, cheap imported workforces. less social housing constructed public buildings rotting and made derelict. etc etc. The list is endless....
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Post by patman post on May 27, 2024 20:11:54 GMT
Or more likely, Labour has done little that’s dragged the UK into the mire that is most voters are experiencing today… Because they have done nothing of significance. You may not have noticed while you drooled over your ultra Right heroes and illusions of regained sovereignty, but Labour has not been in power for 14 years, and has had to sit on the sidelines while the Tories indulged in their UK self-harming fest…
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Post by jonksy on May 27, 2024 20:12:55 GMT
Happy to recant if you can list a majority of those UK news organs not owned and operated by non-commercial capitalist organisations or proprietors… 90% of our media is biased towards the left..
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Post by see2 on May 27, 2024 20:13:02 GMT
Or more likely, Labour has done little that’s dragged the UK into the mire that is most voters are experiencing today… I am afraid Labour under Blair were the main architects of the mire we are in today, Cameron et al just kept up the 'good' work. Blair was a leader on strategy but left the tactics to his Cabinet and they were mainly inept and specifically hamstrung by the strategic goals of Blair. Your post reveals just how ill informed you are.
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Post by jonksy on May 27, 2024 20:14:07 GMT
Because they have done nothing of significance. You may not have noticed while you drooled over your ultra Right heroes and illusions of regained sovereignty, but Labour has not been in power for 14 years, and has had to sit on the sidelines while the Tories indulged in their UK self-harming fest… No but their lefty woke establishment have...
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Post by Bentley on May 27, 2024 20:14:23 GMT
Because they have done nothing of significance. You may not have noticed while you drooled over your ultra Right heroes and illusions of regained sovereignty, but Labour has not been in power for 14 years, and has had to sit on the sidelines while the Tories indulged in their UK self-harming fest… Hence my post “And you understand that Tories will tend to get harder questions than Starmer because Starmer hasn’t actually done much that is significant” Try to keep up.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2024 20:15:33 GMT
Because they have done nothing of significance. You may not have noticed while you drooled over your ultra Right heroes and illusions of regained sovereignty, but Labour has not been in power for 14 years, and has had to sit on the sidelines while the Tories indulged in their UK self-harming fest… The civil service was exposed when they were supporting and joining the Labour party. If there were any actual Conservatives around they were made impotent by the corruption that Labour left behind, which also infected the party. The Tories were not allowed to be Conservative and those that tried were eliminated. You should know this, and I'm sure you do. Just because they didn't drop to their knees to racist Marxist Hamas supporing BLM doesn't mean they were any less Labour. All the Tories did was say one thing and do the other. This is why they're very unpopular amongst actual Conservatives.
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Post by see2 on May 27, 2024 20:17:09 GMT
Happy to recant if you can list a majority of those UK news organs not owned and operated by non-commercial capitalist organisations or proprietors… 90% of our media is biased towards the left.. Says the poster who repeatedly uses totally Tory biased media to do his Tory thinking for him. I am so disgusted with the BBC news' pro Tory approach to the election I have stopped watching BBC news.
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Post by patman post on May 27, 2024 20:21:00 GMT
Happy to recant if you can list a majority of those UK news organs not owned and operated by non-commercial capitalist organisations or proprietors… 90% of our media is biased towards the left.. Organisations and titles? No — I didn’t think so…
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Post by jonksy on May 27, 2024 20:23:02 GMT
90% of our media is biased towards the left.. Organisations and titles? No — I didn’t think so… All of them apart from gydofawkes and GB news....Not difficult is it?...
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2024 20:25:05 GMT
I am afraid Labour under Blair were the main architects of the mire we are in today, Cameron et al just kept up the 'good' work. Blair was a leader on strategy but left the tactics to his Cabinet and they were mainly inept and specifically hamstrung by the strategic goals of Blair. Your post reveals just how ill informed you are. Actually, he's pretty much spot on, except that Blair was also a puppet of the Clintons who are part of the American oligarchy.
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Post by Red Rackham on May 27, 2024 20:26:37 GMT
When labour were in power they came in the back of Lorries, same issue different means. If you're gonna start sprouting crap again about the EU shipping them here then the conversation ends. The EU ship no one anywhere. The illegals pay thousands to get to taken to Britain, not France not Germany. If offered a place in France they'd refuse. Rwanda is not better than nothing, its worse. It incredibly expensive and will stop no one. Its like fitting shag pile carpet to your house to stop it flooding. It soaks up the first few millimetres at a collosal cost, but your home still floods. When Labour were in power the EU weren't allowing 20,000 criminals a year to drag dinghies in broad daylight down French beaches en route for England. But that was before Brexit, and as we all know, the UK must be punished for Brexit. The EU without the consent of any electorates removed all borders and encouraged mass immigration from the RoW but particularly from Africa, and as you know in 2008 and 2009 the EU opened job centres in Africa and sent envoys to Africa to encourage migration, the EU spent €billions on project Africa. Then Merkel had the utter bloody gall to apologise for it and say she wished the clock could be turned back. Of course that was years ago, and it's all going tits up now isn't it. The unelected bureaucrats have finally realised that forced mass immigration is in-fact a massive threat to the continuation of the enforced Euro experiment therefor they are quietly backtracking on previously firm held migration policy. Why? Because the unelected masters of the universe who govern from behind closed doors in Brussels may not be bothered what electorates think of their policies, as long as electorates are going along with them but as soon as European electorates start voting for centre right parties, as they are doing because they are sick of enforced mass immigration, the EU immediately prioritise self preservation over long held policies. ZG when Schuman and Monet came up with the idea of a United States of Europe or whatever you want to call it, it was to ensure against WW3, not to flood Europe with every vagrant criminal and ne'er-do-well from the rest of the world.
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