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Post by jonksy on May 16, 2024 11:57:01 GMT
Europe is in a battle for its very survival, the problem is none of the 3 main parties will even acknowledge this, let alone attempt to do anything about it. Meanwhile, the country sinks ever deeper into the abyss. Reform is the only chance for a way out.
The Netherlands says it will opt out of EUSSR rules to bring in its 'strictest-ever' asylum policy that will see people removed 'by force' following Geert Wilders' election victory.....
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Post by Handyman on May 16, 2024 13:43:29 GMT
A coalition of EU member states, led by the Czech and Italian Prime Ministers, is demanding the right to implement Rwanda-style deportation schemes. The group, comprising 19 nations, is urging Brussels to authorise the transfer of migration procedures outside the bloc's territory.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 17, 2024 8:46:21 GMT
Meanwhile, Beer Korma wants to run the other way.
Talk about out of touch.
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Post by piglet on May 17, 2024 9:11:34 GMT
Meloni is a bit of alright. Wink.
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Post by Fairsociety on May 17, 2024 9:11:40 GMT
I see shithouse Sunak has taken at least 50 migrants back from Ireland, when are we going to get a leader with backbone FFS, and to think he could be replaced with another spineless shithouse.
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Post by witchfinder on May 17, 2024 9:59:21 GMT
And to inject some reality into this Daily Mail article
Firstly, Geert Wilders and his party won 37 of the 150 seats in the Dutch Parliament, and 23% of the popular vote.
Secondly, he is so disliked by virtualy all the other political parties that part of the coalition agreement is that he cannot be Prime Minister.
Thirdly, two of the coalition partners were extremely reluctant to go into coalition with Wilders, because they will not go along with his proposed breaking of the law ( European law ).
and lastly, the second largest of his coalition partners ( The Peoples Party For Freedom & Democracy ) with 24 seats, is VERY Pro-Europe.
I will predict what is going to happen - The coalition will ask for an opt-out of European legislation, the EU will say that no member state can opt out of legislation, and it will then be up to Wilders to decide whether to accept the decision or put forward a proposal to the Dutch Parliament to over-rule the EU, in which case the coalition would fall apart.
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Post by ginnyg2 on May 17, 2024 10:11:15 GMT
And to inject some reality into this Daily Mail article Firstly, Geert Wilders and his party won 37 of the 150 seats in the Dutch Parliament, and 23% of the popular vote. Secondly, he is so disliked by virtualy all the other political parties that part of the coalition agreement is that he cannot be Prime Minister. Thirdly, two of the coalition partners were extremely reluctant to go into coalition with Wilders, because they will not go along with his proposed breaking of the law ( European law ). and lastly, the second largest of his coalition partners ( The Peoples Party For Freedom & Democracy ) with 24 seats, is VERY Pro-Europe. I will predict what is going to happen - The coalition will ask for an opt-out of European legislation, the EU will say that no member state can opt out of legislation, and it will then be up to Wilders to decide whether to accept the decision or put forward a proposal to the Dutch Parliament to over-rule the EU, in which case the coalition would fall apart. "Secondly, he is so disliked by virtualy all the other political parties that part of the coalition agreement is that he cannot be Prime Minister." That's democracy for you. |
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Post by andrewbrown on May 18, 2024 8:38:28 GMT
I see shithouse Sunak has taken at least 50 migrants back from Ireland, when are we going to get a leader with backbone FFS, and to think he could be replaced with another spineless shithouse. So if a migrant moves from country A to country B, should country A be forced to accept them back? |
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Post by andrewbrown on May 18, 2024 8:40:08 GMT
And to inject some reality into this Daily Mail article Firstly, Geert Wilders and his party won 37 of the 150 seats in the Dutch Parliament, and 23% of the popular vote. Secondly, he is so disliked by virtualy all the other political parties that part of the coalition agreement is that he cannot be Prime Minister. Thirdly, two of the coalition partners were extremely reluctant to go into coalition with Wilders, because they will not go along with his proposed breaking of the law ( European law ). and lastly, the second largest of his coalition partners ( The Peoples Party For Freedom & Democracy ) with 24 seats, is VERY Pro-Europe. I will predict what is going to happen - The coalition will ask for an opt-out of European legislation, the EU will say that no member state can opt out of legislation, and it will then be up to Wilders to decide whether to accept the decision or put forward a proposal to the Dutch Parliament to over-rule the EU, in which case the coalition would fall apart. "Secondly, he is so disliked by virtualy all the other political parties that part of the coalition agreement is that he cannot be Prime Minister." That's democracy for you. Correct. He is a minority opinion. That's how it works. |
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Post by Fairsociety on May 18, 2024 9:31:34 GMT
I see shithouse Sunak has taken at least 50 migrants back from Ireland, when are we going to get a leader with backbone FFS, and to think he could be replaced with another spineless shithouse. So if a migrant moves from country A to country B, should country A be forced to accept them back? It's the double standard hypocrisy andrea, we can't return the illegals back to France, yet Dublin who are part of the EU expect the UK to take back the illegals landing on their turf. |
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Post by ginnyg2 on May 18, 2024 10:14:18 GMT
"Secondly, he is so disliked by virtualy all the other political parties that part of the coalition agreement is that he cannot be Prime Minister." That's democracy for you. Correct. He is a minority opinion. That's how it works. That isn't democracy. That is force majeure. |
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Post by andrewbrown on May 18, 2024 12:21:27 GMT
So if a migrant moves from country A to country B, should country A be forced to accept them back? It's the double standard hypocrisy andrea, we can't return the illegals back to France, yet Dublin who are part of the EU expect the UK to take back the illegals landing on their turf. Yes, you are correct, and I'm glad you realise that. I'm just interested in your opinion as to why France should take back ours, but we should reject the ones from Ireland. Of course, then you'll realise it wasn't me with the hypocrisy. If you actually answer the question, then there can be a discussion. |
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Post by jonksy on May 18, 2024 12:47:57 GMT
It's the double standard hypocrisy andrea, we can't return the illegals back to France, yet Dublin who are part of the EU expect the UK to take back the illegals landing on their turf. Yes, you are correct, and I'm glad you realise that. I'm just interested in your opinion as to why France should take back ours, but we should reject the ones from Ireland. Of course, then you'll realise it wasn't me with the hypocrisy. If you actually answer the question, then there can be a discussion. Well mummy isn't very pleased andria....
As France melts down... Madame Micron is so frustrated with her incompetent husband that she's trying to take the reins, whisper Paris insiders.....
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2024 12:49:28 GMT
It's the double standard hypocrisy andrea, we can't return the illegals back to France, yet Dublin who are part of the EU expect the UK to take back the illegals landing on their turf. Yes, you are correct, and I'm glad you realise that. I'm just interested in your opinion as to why France should take back ours, but we should reject the ones from Ireland. Of course, then you'll realise it wasn't me with the hypocrisy. If you actually answer the question, then there can be a discussion. Surely this doesn't matter? If it's consistent then they won't be in the UK. If we have to take them back then France has to take them back. If we have to take them from France then Ireland has to take them from the UK. |
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Post by Bentley on May 18, 2024 12:54:24 GMT
It's the double standard hypocrisy andrea, we can't return the illegals back to France, yet Dublin who are part of the EU expect the UK to take back the illegals landing on their turf. Yes, you are correct, and I'm glad you realise that. I'm just interested in your opinion as to why France should take back ours, but we should reject the ones from Ireland. Of course, then you'll realise it wasn't me with the hypocrisy. If you actually answer the question, then there can be a discussion. Stop a win win either way . If France takes back the migrants then we can return the ones that passed into Ireland . If they don’t then we should not accept them back from Ireland . All we need is a robust system that will deal with illegal migrants from France …robust enough to see Ireland as a soft touch instead of the UK. |
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