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Post by Orac on May 30, 2024 8:11:47 GMT
A thought just struck me, why does light travel so fast?, i dont know, i havent researched it, that might be a good starting point, scrambling into your browser? Is it petrol driven? Something is powering it, i have no background in science, it doesnt need infinite fuel, yet it has mass. Why is all matter linked? Why do physics as we know break down in a black hole? Can i have those answers please pro and vinny. When you answer i might believe your view that space travel is not possible. How can one thing be in two places at once? Why, on earth, every force has a opposite force equal to its opposite? Can i buy that on amazon? and fill my car on it? Is god, the universe, seperate to nature, can god have a rainy day? You dont know do you, but you keep saying you do. My advice is , don't inhale and let it bother you. Have a detached curiosity and do your own thinking. Science popularisers would give you impression that our understanding of the world is far, far more complete than it actually is. You raise interesting questions - why does light travel so fast? I would add to that, why does it travel specifically at the speed that is significant for the relationship between time and space? You will be told that zero rest mass 'particles' must travel at the speed of light or they don't exist. Confused yet? We can go on - what is a 'particle' anyway? Black holes are utterly disturbing - apparently, it is reckoned that most of the information in the universe is inside black holes. |
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Post by Vinny on May 30, 2024 8:33:40 GMT
Science deals in facts and evidence.
Faith deals in what you would like to believe in.
I would love there to be the possibility of space exploration, contact and friendship with extra terrestrial races.
Show evidence rather than statements of faith.
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Post by Dubdrifter on May 30, 2024 9:00:58 GMT
My advice is , don't inhale and let it bother you. Have a detached curiosity and do your own thinking. Science popularisers would give you impression that our understanding of the world is far, far more complete than it actually is. You raise interesting questions - why does light travel so fast? I would add to that, why does it travel specifically at the speed that is significant for the relationship between time and space? You will be told that zero rest mass 'particles’ must travel at the speed of light or they don't exist. Confused yet? We can go on - what is a 'particle' anyway? Black holes are utterly disturbing - apparently, it is reckoned that most of the information in the universe is inside black holes. Yes, popular scientists are good at creating ‘illusions’ … which is why they find a good home on Youtube … enjoy being funded/manipulated by Religion and being easily bullied by the rogue Deep State. Amongst those ‘illusions’ are the pictures of Deep Space and distant galaxies … the colours are not REAL … and the pictures are built up from a combination of data … from radio telescopes, optical lenses, ultra-violet and other EMF detectors … so what we see twinkling in the sky … and in books is a mixture of rays/radiations arriving at different speeds … all distorted and refracted by gravitational lensing and a host of other possible interferences … possibly also travelling through the unknown gaps that make up Dark Matter. Who knows what speed these particles are travelling? … these waves of radiation are travelling? … the speed of light in a lab with pure photons hitting detectors … might give a ‘constant’ …. but out there in Space … surely that ‘constant’ doesn’t apply?? Yet scientists feel confident calculating huge distances in Space from this data soup riddled with anomalies.🤔 Hmmm … I’m not convinced it’s v.accurate. … these objects could be much further away than these calculations show … especially if these radiations are fast track worm-hole jumping through Dark Matter before they hit our detectors?? ….However … if these radiations can only wormhole jump under black hole conditions … and we learn how to simply short cut through Dark Matter using portal Stargates … bingo … easy inter-stellar travel.👍 … Bending the tapestry of Space … but NOT Time … which, as I’ve mentioned before, … is purely conceptual. (Current evidence that Time is real and has properties of elasticity … and time dilation exists … are in my view just atomic clocks with a supersensitive propensity to be affected by minute gravity variations and sub atomic faults and component failure.) |
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Post by Vinny on May 30, 2024 9:12:24 GMT
Matters of faith are not matters of "fact".
Please provide evidence, not statements of belief based on youtube nonsense.
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Post by Dubdrifter on May 30, 2024 9:23:02 GMT
Just to add this to the theory around anti-gravity ionisations. Brazillian UFO principle explained to one witness.  Simple experiments behind small model effects  More detailed science.  Note how these all mirror what could be happening in weather systems that generate incredible lift in electrical storm clouds. |
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Post by Orac on May 30, 2024 9:33:53 GMT
My advice is , don't inhale and let it bother you. Have a detached curiosity and do your own thinking. Science popularisers would give you impression that our understanding of the world is far, far more complete than it actually is. You raise interesting questions - why does light travel so fast? I would add to that, why does it travel specifically at the speed that is significant for the relationship between time and space? You will be told that zero rest mass 'particles’ must travel at the speed of light or they don't exist. Confused yet? We can go on - what is a 'particle' anyway? Black holes are utterly disturbing - apparently, it is reckoned that most of the information in the universe is inside black holes. (Current evidence that Time is real and has properties of elasticity … and time dilation exists … are in my view just atomic clocks with a supersensitive propensity to be affected by minute gravity variations and sub atomic faults and component failure.) We have had this discussion before  Time isn't elastic - it just looks different from different perspectives. It's the same as foreshortening you see if you look directly down railway lines (time looks different from different speeds). You objections to relativity are based in your misunderstanding of the theory, but that doesn't mean relativity is correct. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on May 30, 2024 9:46:25 GMT
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Post by ProVeritas on May 30, 2024 9:57:19 GMT
ProVeritas …. You just proved you are not geared to sifting evidence … Nope, you've just proved, as you do in every fake science thread, that you can't provide evidence for any of your claims. All The Best |
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Post by Dubdrifter on May 30, 2024 10:09:53 GMT
(Current evidence that Time is real and has properties of elasticity … and time dilation exists … are in my view just atomic clocks with a supersensitive propensity to be affected by minute gravity variations and sub atomic faults and component failure.) We have had this discussion before Time isn't elastic - it just looks different from different perspectives. It's the same as foreshortening you see if you look directly down railway lines (time looks different from different speeds). You objections to relativity are based in your misunderstanding of the theory, but that doesn't mean relativity is correct. You’re the first one to challenge what I said … thanks for responding. Perspective makes no difference … because Time as humans define it … is invisible (it’s a concept … of our imagination … as is Space-Time) As the Universe changes/ages one human conceptual second at a time … does it really alter anything? … where we are?, what speed we are travelling? … what perspective we see objects moving away? … or towards us? … railway lines, clocks … any old junk Einstein wants to imagine … ?? None of this alters Time … the relentless forward metronome ticking of a stupid, restricting, enslaving CLOCK … that’s arguably NEVER been right since aliens likely sowed the idea in our imaginations whilst we were ‘asleep’. 😋 … as a tool to trap our minds … our free thinking. Where is there proof the Universe had a start … or will have an end? … another stupid human concept dumb scientists chase. Prof Jim Al-Khalili running up mountains with atomic clocks … just to dupe WOKE BBC viewers that they can claw back a nano-second of their fading ‘youth’ based on an illusion? … it’s annoying they perpetuate this nonsense … and get away with it … Hope this helps people move on from Relativity. |
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Post by Vinny on May 30, 2024 10:14:47 GMT
ProVeritas …. You just proved you are not geared to sifting evidence … Nope, you've just proved, as you do in every fake science thread, that you can't provide evidence for any of your claims. All The Best Exactly. An equation for analysis would be a start. Factors, required thrust, energy capacity of fuel. Mass of fuel. Mass of proposed vessel. Thrust capacity of engine. Heat byproduct. Max heat tolerance of "engine". Radiation byproduct. Fatal radiation level. Mass of radiation shielding required. None of this is considered, only magic. |
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Post by borchester on May 30, 2024 10:46:48 GMT
A thought just struck me, why does light travel so fast?, Which rather begs the question, does it ?
The closest known galaxy to us is the Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy, which is 25,000 light years from the Sun and does not sound as though light is travelling very fast at all. Why, in that time Chuck could not only have written and produced the sequel to Young Sheldon's grandchildren, he could have created a wormhole into which George and Mary Sheldon fell and joined the cast of An Even Bigger Bang Theory.
Overall, science is best left in the hands of poets, rather than grubby handed mechanics who mean well, but at the end of the day, are still, grubby handed mechanics
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Post by ProVeritas on May 30, 2024 10:49:42 GMT
Just to add this to the theory around anti-gravity ionisations. Brazillian UFO principle explained to one witness. View AttachmentSimple experiments behind small model effects View AttachmentMore detailed science. View AttachmentNote how these all mirror what could be happening in weather systems that generate incredible lift in electrical storm clouds. None of those images are actual science. There's no equations, no proofs, just images with non-specific text may as well have come out of a comic, in fact they probably did. All The Best |
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Post by Dubdrifter on May 31, 2024 7:00:55 GMT
You short-sighted closed minded amateurs … all the best innovations in science and technology started with a scribbled drawing on the back of a cigarette pack. Take the genius Leonardo and his sketches … …. I’ve given you the observations … and a bit of my own fresh theory regarding levitation mechanisms going on in storm systems … backed up by geo-weathering evidence you never bothered to analyse … You’ve also had the witness reports from the Disclosure Project there for you to study - you haven’t done anything to look at what is on that website. Reams of data there for you to study …. detailed reports from covert military sources/ top flying people who know their onions when it comes to what is “Black Ops” and what is extra-terrestrial/inner-terrestrial technology. Again … no comment … no analysis …. no maths/equations proving why these sighting are ‘invalid’.?? … What is wrong with you mathematics experts?? You light-weights haven’t a clue what is out there … because you don’t LOOK or LISTEN. - not that you will bother analysing … Deep State/Religious stooge TROLLS never get stuck in and deliver counter evidence to Conspiracy FACT. If you want equations … formulate your own … deliver us the proofs what updraft force is needed for storm clouds to hold up hundreds of tons of giant hailstones that can kill 1,000 troops(some with shields), 6,000 horses of King Edward 3rds Army outside Chartres, France 5th April 1360. …. and try laying the blame for THAT … on Global Warming …. and me exploiting fossil fuels - driving my diesel car … a big F.U. to Greta and those JSO/Green science fakers that make huge profits for Globalists destroying the Amazon … …. The complete utter bollocks we get from what are supposed to be ‘experts’ … explaining anti-gravity technology flitting around our planet … as “ball lightening”, “marsh gas” “lighthouses” and noisy smelly fossil-fuel Skunk Works UFO-lookalike ‘fakes’ … beggars belief. The U.S. Military Cover-Up and whistle-blower persecution, eradication and murder programme … especially surrounding the anti-gravity/extra-terrestrial technology field …. has left the Rogue State within the U.S. guilty of criminal activities and undermining Democracy and the American Constitution. Let’s hope we get a President that addresses these issues … and throws the book at these CRIMINALS. … only then will we get transparency regarding this technology. The sooner the UK ditches our poodle/servile relationship with Israeli/U.S. Rogue State criminality … the sooner our economy will recover … then … in years to come our scientists can be FREE to ditch the restrictions of Religious funding … and openly explore research in these areas … without fear of ridicule, loss of livelihood … or the threat of covert assassination. Meanwhile … back to the new industrial innovators whose economy and space explorations are making the bankrupt USA and NASA look 3rd rate in our modern world. … India and China. Here is the Space Station no Western Media is discussing … and most Western scientists have been brain-washed to ignore … ignoramuses! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiangong_space_stationStarved of resources from a dying U.S. economy and Administrative incompetence … NASA struggles daily to compete with the new Space pioneers on the block … the U.S. is a fading Empire and needs to come to terms with being economically 3rd rate … instead of lashing out … like a petulant child … as Israel cripples and defunds it … engineers it’s collapse. This on Ion Drive technology … tenuously linked to what I have been dropping … in my primitive way …. that will help keep this expanding platform in it’s geo-stationary orbit. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_thrusterBut it uses xenon gas as a ‘fuel’ … so isn’t quite the key for human intergalactic travel … Ion drivers need to tap a ‘fuel’ easily found/synthesised in Space … (may I suggest H2O? … or the gases of sun plasma (H2/He we observed being tapped in my video drop- CGI? Nah!)- all likely found along the journey route around our Star System … H2 and O2 … can be harvested and synthesised in quantities … sublimating into Space from every planet and moon that has/had active volcanism … and also easily harvested from ice asteroids in the Kyper Belt.) If you observe what the experts in inter-stellar travel are using … you can throw around quite a few good ideas! 🤔😆 … … but you just need to ignore all the negative people who pull projects down … and create anarchy … and want to start Star Wars. Pushing them out of our lives, crossing them out of our Contacts … is the way FORWARD. |
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Post by ProVeritas on May 31, 2024 7:45:34 GMT
The existence of Ion Thrusters does NOT prove your Anti-Gravity fairy-tale is true.
All The Best
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Post by Orac on May 31, 2024 8:41:08 GMT
We have had this discussion before Time isn't elastic - it just looks different from different perspectives. It's the same as foreshortening you see if you look directly down railway lines (time looks different from different speeds). You objections to relativity are based in your misunderstanding of the theory, but that doesn't mean relativity is correct. You’re the first one to challenge what I said … thanks for responding. Perspective makes no difference … because Time as humans define it … is invisible (it’s a concept … of our imagination … as is Space-Time) Whatever time really is, it must at minimum be an illusion we all share quantitatively - ie we can agree on it. Any illusion can look different from different perspectives - examples are a mirage or a rainbow. |
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Time isn't elastic - it just looks different from different perspectives. It's the same as foreshortening you see if you look directly down railway lines (time looks different from different speeds). You objections to relativity are based in your misunderstanding of the theory, but that doesn't mean relativity is correct.
