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Post by sheepy on May 29, 2024 8:10:26 GMT
Returning to what these secret manipulators can already do with our weather …. Remember the extreme floods we saw in Dubai recently? … If you are wondering what caused them …. look no further than this: View AttachmentSo we can see here what they’ve been engineering for 70 years … playing God. If they can manipulate weather systems to support and direct thousands of tons of water to drop in zones where it can hinder/destroy an enemy’s capability to fight or function … this is a powerful military weapon … that might be manipulating Nature’s ‘anti-gravity’ principle … that science ignored. Linked to electro-magnetism … and momentum … but with some hidden elements open scientists need to figure out. Nobody as far as I know has done a study how doing such things can have affects elsewhere. Meaning messing with a system that is finely balanced could have a probability of creating adverse effects elesewhere.
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Post by ProVeritas on May 29, 2024 8:40:34 GMT
Returning to what these secret manipulators can already do with our weather …. You have to PROVE those "secret manipulators" even exist before we can take anything you say about their abilities seriously. You HAVE NOT done that. All The Best
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Post by Vinny on May 29, 2024 9:11:43 GMT
Convection isn't "anti gravity" gravity still applies and when clouds reach full maturity the thermals feeding them stop, the clouds cool, and then ultimately dump their rain / snow / hail back down to the ground.
If you want to know more, either read weather for dummies or talk to a pilot.
You are not following the scientific method: Define a Question to Investigate. As scientists conduct their research, they make observations and collect data. ... Make Predictions. Based on their research and observations, scientists will often come up with a hypothesis. ... Gather Data. ... Analyze the Data. ... Draw Conclusions.
What you are doing is drawing conclusions first, throwing away any evidence which challenges your belief and then making false statements. What you are doing is not science.
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Post by piglet on May 29, 2024 9:30:43 GMT
By creating a goal, you automatically ditch stuff that doesnt work, thats my point even though you keep throwing it at me, that current science shows that space travel cannot happen.
So having rejected space sails, petrol,( that is a joke), nuclear power, and god knows what else, where is the starting point?
Its not stuff weve already got. Its not stuff weve already got.
I am an intutive, a rare breed, this challenge would be like a magnet, that if i were an astrophysicist or whatever they are called, my subconscious would be working overtime on the normal stuff like petrol, another joke, but also on quantum mechanics, and stuff beyond that, to look for avenues that would further knowledge. There cant be limits.
Its not like evidence for space travel isnt there, ufos etc, ufos are like bees in summer, they fly at impossible speed, turning corners, up and down, that would crush a human.
Now, who is going to tell me that those things are morning mist? Or that ufo sucking up plasma from the sun is a cloud? Your thinking is pallid, regressive, denying reality, and you would be sacked in a moment by researchers.
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Post by ProVeritas on May 29, 2024 9:54:45 GMT
By creating a goal, you automatically ditch stuff that doesnt work, No you don't. Because UNTILL and UNLESS you TRY IT you can't ever know it doesn't work. All The Best
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Post by ProVeritas on May 29, 2024 9:56:41 GMT
By creating a goal, you automatically ditch stuff that doesnt work, thats my point even though you keep throwing it at me, that current science shows that space travel cannot happen. So having rejected space sails, petrol,( that is a joke), nuclear power, and god knows what else, where is the starting point? Its not stuff weve already got. Its not stuff weve already got. I am an intutive, a rare breed, this challenge would be like a magnet, that if i were an astrophysicist or whatever they are called, my subconscious would be working overtime on the normal stuff like petrol, another joke, but also on quantum mechanics, and stuff beyond that, to look for avenues that would further knowledge. There cant be limits. Its not like evidence for space travel isnt there, ufos etc, ufos are like bees in summer, they fly at impossible speed, turning corners, up and down, that would crush a human. Now, who is going to tell me that those things are morning mist? Or that ufo sucking up plasma from the sun is a cloud? Your thinking is pallid, regressive, denying reality, and you would be sacked in a moment by researchers. WTF? Where is there any evidence of a UFO sucking plasma from the Sun? All The Best
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Post by Dubdrifter on May 29, 2024 9:58:13 GMT
Returning to what these secret manipulators can already do with our weather …. You have to PROVE those "secret manipulators" even exist before we can take anything you say about their abilities seriously. You HAVE NOT done that. All The Best We discussed it all some months back … you can catch up here: ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/thread/604/secret-state-toxic-spray-killing … but bear in mind … some of the Links and Data dropped here might have been trashed and removed by the Deep State … who seem to target my stuff for some reason I can’t quite fathom. … if it is as unreliable as Vinny claims … why are they interested?
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Post by ProVeritas on May 29, 2024 10:00:29 GMT
I asked for PROOF. Not delusional waffle. All The Best
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Post by Dubdrifter on May 29, 2024 10:44:44 GMT
You have to PROVE those "secret manipulators" even exist before we can take anything you say about their abilities seriously. You HAVE NOT done that. All The Best We discussed it all some months back … you can catch up here: ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/thread/604/secret-state-toxic-spray-killing … but bear in mind … some of the Links and Data dropped here might have been trashed and removed by the Deep State … who seem to target my stuff for some reason I can’t quite fathom. … if it is as unreliable as Vinny claims … why are they interested? I asked for PROOF. Not delusional waffle. All The Best So … within the two minutes(literally) it took me to edit my post … and provide you with a NEW direct link to the whole of this debate … you posted my quote and made a reply … suggesting you had seriously analysed the 7 pages of this debate … and followed up on all the factual scientific links enclosed … and come to your conclusion ?? “delusional waffle”. BUSTED. Why did I waste my time taking your comments seriously?? … At least this is a warning to other Members thinking you are here to debate seriously. …. The proof is here you are just another TROLL … like Vinny … not the least bit interested in evidence dropped here … or discussed here … even science links … just another pathetic poodle AGENT PROVOCATEUR … Do you have audio on your computer? … who cares now? …. . my guess is you are likely working for the Deep State or some Religious bunch of neo-n*zis that plague Forums these days … Yes, probably having fun removing my stuff(the video of a UFO streaming plasma from the sun has gone missing again … surreptitiously removed by someone … again) … like those destroying Internet ufo content daily.🤔 You’re just another pathetic “book-burner” … Now scuttle off back to GCHQ or Brigade 77 … and tell your lord and masters in Washington … your cover got blown.
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Post by Vinny on May 29, 2024 10:52:59 GMT
Again, you have a religious belief.
It's not the same as hard verifiable facts.
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Post by ProVeritas on May 29, 2024 14:44:56 GMT
So … within the two minutes(literally) it took me to edit my post … and provide you with a NEW direct link to the whole of this debate … you posted my quote and made a reply … suggesting you had seriously analysed the 7 pages of this debate … and followed up on all the factual scientific links enclosed … and come to your conclusion ?? “delusional waffle”. I was working from the fact that NOT ONCE so far when asked to provide actual evidence have you done so. If you have ACTUAL EVIDCENCE link specifically to it, not via a 7 page thread of waffle, and I'll take a look. All The Best
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Post by Dubdrifter on May 30, 2024 7:00:47 GMT
ProVeritas …. You just proved you are not geared to sifting evidence … Case closed. … move to another thread. ************** … For those that are interested in sifting and analysing ideas around the thread topic….. Here is a diagrammatic partly reverse engineered scout craft … that reliable witnesses have seen leaving large cigar shaped giant motherships within and outside our atmosphere …. and have been retrieved or captured by rogue U.S. State operatives … working outside National Government authority. … it’s just a theoretical attempt trying to rationalise a possible drive system … that could take these visitors across vast distances … and possibly navigate wormholes in the fabric of Space … find instant Dark Matter shortcuts through our ether. Note the ion particle flow ideas that might be creating similar anti-gravity effects in weather systems. …. already discussed …
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Post by Dubdrifter on May 30, 2024 7:35:59 GMT
It is difficult to discuss this subject … and analyse all possible evidence that MIGHT point to visiting civilisations and their SUPER advanced technology.
… we are all keen to learn how it works … and would like to use it for PEACEFUL purposes across all Humanity … Internationally and Inter-Galactically.
Sadly … there seems to be forces controlling this Forum that keep surreptitiously removing this ‘evidence’ … repeatedly.
I have dropped this video on 2 different alien thread discussions now … yet it still keeps disappearing … ??
Repeatedly from Youtube too.
I can only draw the conclusion that it is more than just a CGI ‘fake’.
If this video footage is REAL … it has enormous implications.
NASA lies to us.
The U.S. has spy cameras in satellites possibly much closer to the Sun than we imagined. (and the technology to prevent them being destroyed in an instant).
Alien technology is incredibly advanced … able to stream plasma and somehow convert the ionisation energy from molten/hot gasceous systems (volcanos too) enabling them to power themselves across the Galaxies. Not fossil fuel rockets … but maybe hydrogen/helium/ion gathering processes are at work here … ??
Space is far from empty …free water and hydrogen molecules are floating around and the right attractant could suck up and filter these molecules for long distance travellers who are at our primitive stage of galaxy travel … and know nothing of worm-hole exploits.
…. We need to learn the basics … before thinking we can cross Galaxies.
Open University scientists are still in diapers … intellectually stunted … and as we have seen … not interested in ‘evidence’ … however flaky they imagine it to be.
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Post by piglet on May 30, 2024 7:45:44 GMT
A thought just struck me, why does light travel so fast?, i dont know, i havent researched it, that might be a good starting point, scrambling into your browser? Is it petrol driven? Something is powering it, i have no background in science, it doesnt need infinite fuel, yet it has mass. Why is all matter linked? Why do physics as we know break down in a black hole? Can i have those answers please pro and vinny. When you answer i might believe your view that space travel is not possible.
How can one thing be in two places at once? Why, on earth, every force has a opposite force equal to its opposite? Can i buy that on amazon? and fill my car on it? Is god, the universe, seperate to nature, can god have a rainy day?
You dont know do you, but you keep saying you do.
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Post by piglet on May 30, 2024 7:47:44 GMT
Way to go dub, i could not be bothered.
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