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Post by Vinny on May 17, 2024 10:41:16 GMT
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Post by ProVeritas on May 17, 2024 16:59:22 GMT
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Post by Dubdrifter on May 18, 2024 7:53:20 GMT
As we know from laser weapons and this type of research … photon light energy can be transmitted over distances to cause an effect … push or pull. Ion drives are in development for space travel. Outside of science FICTION ….There have been a number of observed sightings where tractor beams have been employed to draw up materials. … in the Belgian UFO flap a few decades ago … 2 policemen reported seeing 2 large triangular (anti-gravity technology) craft drawing up water in a beam of light from a local lake. This activity has been observed in other parts of the world. …. and possibly tractor beam technology might be the key to how these visitors draw energy from the sun …. as seen here in this clip. …. and another likely tractor beam occurrence caught on Helioviewer that I dropped in another thread … but this time showing a UFO object of a different texture appearing to stream a focussed ‘beam’ of plasma material from our Sun over a long period of time … before disappearing … clearly satisfied with the energy injection made. www.express.co.uk/news/weird/737818/Aliens-drain-solar-energy-monster-UFOs-Sun-NASA-SOHODoes this use the tractor beam principle? …. and how does this relate to the physics behind anti-gravity devices?
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2024 8:00:02 GMT
Here come the paranoid conspiracy videos that any troll can make for clicks.
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Post by Dubdrifter on May 18, 2024 8:20:07 GMT
Tractor beams might appear to be a ‘distraction’ … but this is all linked to observed evidence of civilisations that have already arguably achieved anti-gravity, inter-dimensional travel outside science fiction … observations that inspired science fiction.
If you are just going to label all this discussion “conspiracy theory/science fiction” and bury your head in the sand again … best walk away now …
Rather than listen to theoretical mathematicians and physicists who calculate all this is impossible … and give up …. this thread’s purpose is first collate observed evidence out there … real or CGI’d … then come up with the ideas and theories that might make those observations more real. … there is more to come … be patient …
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2024 8:38:16 GMT
Tractor beams might appear to be a ‘distraction’ … but this is all linked to observed evidence of civilisations that have already arguably achieved anti-gravity, inter-dimensional travel outside science fiction … observations that inspired science fiction. If you are just going to label all this discussion “conspiracy theory/science fiction” and bury your head in the sand again … best walk away now … Rather than listen to theoretical mathematicians and physicists who calculate all this is impossible … and give up …. this thread’s purpose is first collate observed evidence out there … real or CGI’d … then come up with the ideas and theories that might make those observations more real. … there is more to come … be patient … You're the one who took my science fiction post and wrongfully used it to create another one of your paranoid clickbait threads. There's nothing in that last video you posted that could be considered genuine. It's a paranoid conspiracy video that's laughable at best, where you're now claiming CGI is evidence.
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Post by ProVeritas on May 18, 2024 19:58:47 GMT
Tractor beams might appear to be a ‘distraction’ … but this is all linked to observed evidence of civilisations that have already arguably achieved anti-gravity, inter-dimensional travel outside science fiction … observations that inspired science fiction. If you are just going to label all this discussion “conspiracy theory/science fiction” and bury your head in the sand again … best walk away now … Rather than listen to theoretical mathematicians and physicists who calculate all this is impossible … and give up …. this thread’s purpose is first collate observed evidence out there … real or CGI’d … then come up with the ideas and theories that might make those observations more real. … there is more to come … be patient … You're the one who took my science fiction post and wrongfully used it to create another one of your paranoid clickbait threads. There's nothing in that last video you posted that could be considered genuine. It's a paranoid conspiracy video that's laughable at best, where you're now claiming CGI is evidence. Holy shit. You and I CAN agree on something. All The Best
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Post by Dubdrifter on May 19, 2024 2:52:35 GMT
Ignoring bits of evidence you don’t like … and doesn’t fit into your mathematical boxes … seems to be a common attitude of today’s ego-driven scientists. Is it surprising those working outside Black Ops haven’t cracked anti-gravity drives/wormhole travel yet? … We must be the only Humanoid species in this and other Galaxies that aren’t privy to the secret. Maybe if you change your behaviour … someone might share it with you?? So some here don’t think the two helioviewer clips I referenced … possibly confirming the tractor beam physics theories ….are real? …. Do you think it’s possible the U.S. has secret spy satellites monitoring strange objects operating around our Sun? … that most scientists are not aware exist?. … prefer to brush under the carpet as ‘anomalies’ …. Let’s look at an area of REAL lab research that disappeared off the radar of most members here … evidence showing FLT might be possible. This German scientist claims to have sent data calculated at over 4x the speed of light … through what appears to be solid matter. If there are short cuts through the Dark Matter that makes up the spaces between much of our physical visible Universe … then this experiment points the way forward. You have to understand that a series of observations can give clues to the possibility of something radically new … that we didn’t know about our Universe. Always remain open minded … and rational. Be aware Religion and Deep State doesn’t want an educated and enlightened population … it wants a thick, stupid and compliant slave culture. Today, the difference between Sci-fi and SCIENCE FACT / Conspiracy Theory and Conspiracy FACT is blurred by manipulation and deception. I prefer to work around observable events to argue certain points … some think that if their conceptual ‘maths’ calculations show something is impossible … calculate it requires too much energy to do something … like open a wormhole in space-time …. my experiences … and that of others … REAL experience … knows this isn’t the case. ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/thread/6290/lecture-on-spaceWe experienced spontaneous ‘teleport’ situations regarding personal objects … where huge amounts of energy were NOT required … or expended as a waste product - either light or heat. - Objects JUST DISAPPEARED AND REAPPEARED … no DRAMA at all … 😴😴 … so the current MATHS of wormhole/inter-dimensional portal creation theory … doesn’t require HUGE amounts of energy … the mathematical calculations. must be wrong … Because these were events beyond our CONTROL … and were unpredictable and spontaneous … like much of Quantum Science … replicating ‘proofs’ of this phenomena … is difficult within a scientific laboratory environment. Hopefully, one day soon, we will be able to engineer ‘invisible cloaking’ technology that might make objects disappear under lab control conditions.
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Post by Vinny on May 19, 2024 7:39:28 GMT
Again, zero evidence from you, just parroted drivel.
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Post by piglet on May 19, 2024 9:17:55 GMT
The industrial revolution began new fields of tech, and something similar in regards to progress now is needed, because it does not exist now does not mean it wont. NASA certaintainly are not fazed by the lack of tech, they are developing it, and see it as a challenge, not a dead end.
As it should be.
The Universe is there to be populated.
Like the earth was millenia ago, its inevitable, its just when, it was inevitable when the first human was born.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2024 10:37:47 GMT
Ignoring bits of evidence you don’t like … and doesn’t fit into your mathematical boxes … seems to be a common attitude of today’s ego-driven scientists. Maths isn't subjective. You haven't offered any scientific evidence. The ego is irrelevant.
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Post by Dubdrifter on May 19, 2024 20:08:19 GMT
Ignoring bits of evidence you don’t like … and doesn’t fit into your mathematical boxes … seems to be a common attitude of today’s ego-driven scientists. Maths isn't subjective. You haven't offered any scientific evidence. The ego is irrelevant. Every observation, witness report and science experiment I drop … like the German lab experiment … you ignore and dismiss … so there is no longer any point arguing with close-minded people like you ….or Vinny …. meanwhile … for those scientists promoting the idea of warp drives … those theories are further away from REALITY than my ‘evidence’. It’s time scientists woke up to that FACT. Alcubierre’s warp drives are a huge waste of time, waste of money and impossible and impractical … like quantum computers … over-rated, over-promoted … with impossible hurdles no amount of engineering will surmount …. …..but will you ever drop it and move on?? …. No, your programmed to cling on to dead ideas … and not look somewhere fresh. When this Columbia University scientist starts talking about bending science’s imaginary “space-time” to develop gravity differential and warp drive dynamics …. then starts proposing impossible concepts like time travel …. theoretically proposing that their maths allows them to go forwards and backwards in Time …. you soon realise he has “lost the plot” in his conceptual “ramblings”. …. Every sensible GROUNDED person knows TIME is an artificial human construct … conceptual … and has no physicality and therefore no elasticity … it ticks forward metronomically one second at a time … RELENTLESSLY ….wherever you are, however fast you are travelling makes NO DIFFERENCE …. the Universe doesn’t give a sh*t what your position or POV is. It makes no difference how many mountains you climb and how much your gravity situation changes …. there is still no change to your ageing in the Universe … it’s no faster or slower … there is no “elixir of youth” … and TIME never goes in reverse … Tell that to Jim Al-Khalili next time you see him rambling up a mountain spouting “time travel” concepts on the BBC. …. As the Universe ages … expands and contracts …. dust, forces and Dark Matter spaces … all make a mockery of Einstein’s groupies. Their ideas have been wrinkling for over a hundred years. Time to let go … and move on. …. Think out the box, ffs. The clues are in the observations of alien technologies … that have cracked these issues. MSM stooge programmed scientists need to stop laughing at 5,00 years of observations. Their ignorance is starting to get embarrassing. The clue to anti-gravity and FTL travel is using EMF elements in a unique way that creates an exploitation of the huge amount of Dark Matter spaces in our Universe … that offer no resistance. This German experiment I dropped above gives the clue how to achieve data transfer over 4x the speed of light …. you BS experts have done no experiments that even comes close to that …. If Mozart and Beethoven can travel that fast … you need to get your fingers out … and stop taking our hard-earned tax-payers grant money masturbating over impossible concepts. So, …my advice is … explore this observation … because if the American Universities and other scientists have sent data at 1.4 x times the speed of light … maybe this BURIED SCIENCE the Deep State doesn’t want you to exploit … is REAL …. and you need to get your heads out of your derriere’s … and get to work engineering the possible … instead of the impossible! …. Navigation through Dark matter portals with relatively simple technology Black Op Project engineers can now manufacture, that uses moderate amounts of energy that visiting civilisations can capture from electricity sub stations, atmospheric storms and thunderclouds, volcanic/fault-line piezo electrics … and star energy sources, …. Like our Sun … if you take the time to watch these UFO’s at work and play … showing off in some instances. Mocking your feeble efforts! 😂
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2024 21:03:22 GMT
You're full of wild presumptions and literally take offence to the most basic scientific principles. I can't work with you, but maybe you can wake up one of the other sheep.
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Post by Dubdrifter on May 20, 2024 5:39:28 GMT
You're full of wild presumptions and literally take offence to the most basic scientific principles. I can't work with you, but maybe you can wake up one of the other sheep. Much of my argument has been backed up with evidence from observations ‘in the field’ … and also this German research in the lab that shows there are holes between solid MATTER that affords opportunities for superfast data movement. … ADD to that a sprinkling of my own ideas and theories from what I have researched …. woven around the ‘whole collective’ …. clearly not something you seem to get your head around. … do try a little harder to embrace the REAL ‘evidence’ out there. … and be wary of those Quantum bullshitters … who deliver the MATHS … but nothing REAL … no substance. They are just a ‘distraction’ … designed to send Humanity down a rabbit hole wasting it’s money … rather than down a wormhole … that gets results! Your basic scientific principles and mathematical formulas aren’t evidence of a way forward to solving the obvious problems of how to travel huge distances across our Galaxy or cracking anti-gravity … one of the weaker forces in the Universe. You are 5,000+ years behind all these other Civilisations in our Galaxy … and other Galaxies. Wake up to that FACT. If it wasn’t for a handful of underfunded enthusiasts and open-minded scientists … and just recently Youtubers who got REALLY interested in UFO’s and alien visitors … and went against Deep State, their ridicule/assassination programme …. and Religious Authority dictates back in the 1950’s onwards, …. we would never have got to mainstream science addressing these important anti-gravity issues … this exciting period now where debate is ferocious … and new discoveries are just around the corner. The information exchange on Youtube is manic right now … all the top guys are on there throwing ideas around … Enjoy watching the fur fly … science is supposed to be FUN … get in the spirit of it all … embrace every possibility.
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Post by Vinny on May 20, 2024 6:16:57 GMT
Zero evidence.
No explanation of how to harness and channel energy into anti gravity, let alone interstellar faster than light travel.
Fuel requirements for a fifty tonne craft to travel from Earth to Mars in under an hour? And an explanation of how to do this without killing the occupants with radiation.
Then scale it up to how to cross from one solar system to another in under a week and achieve that without killing the occupants with deadly radiation.
Every bit of weight added and more fuel is required.
Miguel Alcubiere believes that the mass energy requirements for such travel are greater than the actual mass of the observable universe.
You have not proven him wrong.
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