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Post by Dubdrifter on Jun 3, 2024 10:42:04 GMT
Well, here's the issue you have. IIRC Jonksy has experience in the aviation sector, so I am going to believe him over some random images from the interwebs. Especially when a few of those images are repeated numerous times; giving the impression someone is lying about how often this happens. But it is a nice diversion from you NOT supplying any actual science. Oh, wait, no it isn't. All The Best Nobody here made any claim about how often this happens …?? … one quick search online for pics of hail damage to aircraft threw up the selection you see here … search for other examples if these aren’t dramatic enough. The point is it shows evidence very large balls of ice are at seriously high altitudes … an acute danger to aircraft that get caught up in a storm that levitates heavy ice in what I personally think could be an anti-gravity electrical field of ionisation …. I will let you physics professors and mathematicians calculate the equations on the ‘impossibility’ this cannot happen …. the ‘counter argument’ … seeing as you don’t believe it’s a levitation effect. …. you are welcome to do it in the mathematical equation forms you love … for anyone interested in your medium of communication … Maybe the Baron would be kind enough to check if it all adds up … and is not obfuscatory nonsense?? +++++++++++++ So the 🤡’s Collective … the Troll Syndicate think all these pictures are ‘fake’ … the result of a wrecking ball and bird strikes?? … the opinion of your ‘expert’ from the aviation industry ?? … www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientists-want-to-fly-an-armored-warplane-into-hailstorms/Real experts are interested to learn more … maybe you guys should go and have a lie down … and recover from your ‘intensive research’ activities??😂👍 Personally, I don’t think this “Troll Collective” knows what the word ‘science’ means … and what exploration in science involves … and they certainly don’t know how to process observation or evidence. … or drop any original work or reasoning in these discussions. Besides cut and paste of Alcubierre’s failure ….the Membership here can see no examples of their ‘science’ on display … that counters observational evidence. At one time I’m sure there were mathematicians who stated many certainties in Life were impossible … but here we are today … we moved on from the negative close-minded individuals that tried to control us … and leave us stuck on the ground … in a primitive state. Dumbed down. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jun 3, 2024 11:29:46 GMT
Levitation is easy … when you know how! 🤣 … do primitive African tribes have cranes with thin wires? … with a budget like David Blaine? … after effect CGI? … this guy is really having fun with this! … whatever it is. …. On a more serious note … my guesstimate would something like 100 miles an hour Is this your guesstimate of the minimum consistent updraft of air needed to keep each individual 1- 2lb ball of round hail aloft at an altitude to seriously damage the aircraft shown in the pictures?? … interesting. Do you think the day-to-day storm clouds we see today can deliver that degree of consistent updraft … ?? …. Do you think the sudden hail drop we witness is a sudden failure of this consistent updraft?? … or a sudden switch to downdraft mode across a wide area within the storm cloud?? … It will be interesting if scientists can clear up once and for all the levitational effect we are seeing here. … it’s a very interesting phenomena that seems to defy gravity. … and a weak force of gravity too! … which shouldn’t be too difficult to counter. |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 3, 2024 11:58:03 GMT
A cult of one. … I woke up … and got inspired to go out and water my wilting rhubarb. … . It’s not that hot … so you can’t be in the UK right now …View Attachment🤣😎👍 … busted! It's bloody hot down here in Devon and has been all over this weekend...It has been perfect weather for the Torbay airshow and a great many people who attended have required medical attention for heat-stroke.....What was it you were saying about doing some research pinoccio? It's overcast but really muggy here. Pinnochio thinks anyone who criticises a conspiracy theory must be a spook. Nasa have done a study on warp drive based on the theories of Miguel Alcubierre. ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20110015936/downloads/20110015936.pdfThere's a lot of complex maths in this. |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 3, 2024 11:59:34 GMT
Hail forms when a cloud is fully mature, with sub zero temperatures, the moisture condensing freezing and falling.
Nothing to do with anti gravity. When a hailstone is formed it falls relative to the air it is in.
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Post by jonksy on Jun 3, 2024 12:34:12 GMT
Well, here's the issue you have. IIRC Jonksy has experience in the aviation sector, so I am going to believe him over some random images from the interwebs. Especially when a few of those images are repeated numerous times; giving the impression someone is lying about how often this happens. But it is a nice diversion from you NOT supplying any actual science. Oh, wait, no it isn't. All The Best Nobody here made any claim about how often this happens …?? … one quick search online for pics of hail damage to aircraft threw up the selection you see here … search for other examples if these aren’t dramatic enough. The point is it shows evidence very large balls of ice are at seriously high altitudes … an acute danger to aircraft that get caught up in a storm that levitates heavy ice in what I personally think could be an anti-gravity electrical field of ionisation …. I will let you physics professors and mathematicians calculate the equations on the ‘impossibility’ this cannot happen …. the ‘counter argument’ … seeing as you don’t believe it’s a levitation effect. …. you are welcome to do it in the mathematical equation forms you love … for anyone interested in your medium of communication … Maybe the Baron would be kind enough to check if it all adds up … and is not obfuscatory nonsense?? +++++++++++++ So the 🤡’s Collective … the Troll Syndicate think all these pictures are ‘fake’ … the result of a wrecking ball and bird strikes?? … the opinion of your ‘expert’ from the aviation industry ?? … www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientists-want-to-fly-an-armored-warplane-into-hailstorms/Real experts are interested to learn more … maybe you guys should go and have a lie down … and recover from your ‘intensive research’ activities??😂👍 Personally, I don’t think this “Troll Collective” knows what the word ‘science’ means … and what exploration in science involves … and they certainly don’t know how to process observation or evidence. … or drop any original work or reasoning in these discussions. Besides cut and paste of Alcubierre’s failure ….the Membership here can see no examples of their ‘science’ on display … that counters observational evidence. At one time I’m sure there were mathematicians who stated many certainties in Life were impossible … but here we are today … we moved on from the negative close-minded individuals that tried to control us … and leave us stuck on the ground … in a primitive state. Dumbed down. So when exactly did you become an expert? You just post unsubstanciated bullshit and nothing of any substance.. |
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Post by Orac on Jun 3, 2024 15:07:41 GMT
my guesstimate would something like 100 miles an hour Is this your guesstimate of the minimum consistent updraft of air needed to keep each individual 1- 2lb ball of round hail aloft at an altitude to seriously damage the aircraft shown in the pictures?? … interesting. Do you think the day-to-day storm clouds we see today can deliver that degree of consistent updraft … ?? …. Do you think the sudden hail drop we witness is a sudden failure of this consistent updraft?? … or a sudden switch to downdraft mode across a wide area within the storm cloud?? … It will be interesting if scientists can clear up once and for all the levitational effect we are seeing here. … it’s a very interesting phenomena that seems to defy gravity. … and a weak force of gravity too! … which shouldn’t be too difficult to counter. I think a bad storm can deliver high winds. 100mph is not unprecedented. I know aircraft absolutely avoid flying into thunderstorm clouds |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 3, 2024 15:33:54 GMT
Is this your guesstimate of the minimum consistent updraft of air needed to keep each individual 1- 2lb ball of round hail aloft at an altitude to seriously damage the aircraft shown in the pictures?? … interesting. Do you think the day-to-day storm clouds we see today can deliver that degree of consistent updraft … ?? …. Do you think the sudden hail drop we witness is a sudden failure of this consistent updraft?? … or a sudden switch to downdraft mode across a wide area within the storm cloud?? … It will be interesting if scientists can clear up once and for all the levitational effect we are seeing here. … it’s a very interesting phenomena that seems to defy gravity. … and a weak force of gravity too! … which shouldn’t be too difficult to counter. I think a bad storm can deliver high winds. 100mph is not unprecedented. I know aircraft absolutely avoid flying into thunderstorm clouds Very high risk of disorientation, strong lift, electrostatic charge, not a nice place to be. pilotinstitute.com/cumulonimbus-clouds/And no anti gravity at all. |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 3, 2024 15:40:45 GMT
I think a bad storm can deliver high winds. 100mph is not unprecedented. I know aircraft absolutely avoid flying into thunderstorm clouds Very high risk of disorientation, strong lift, electrostatic charge, not a nice place to be. pilotinstitute.com/cumulonimbus-clouds/And no anti gravity at all. This is what a lightining strike can do....This is a big one aircraft can have just a minor hole in the outer skin but have masive damage on the internal spars, superstructure and pylons...
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Post by Vinny on Jun 3, 2024 15:44:19 GMT
Shows just how thin an aircraft's skin is too.
Dash 8 Q400?
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Post by jonksy on Jun 3, 2024 15:46:56 GMT
Shows just how thin an aircraft's skin is too. Is that an Embraer? Yes mate it is. It took over 7 months to find all the damage done and to repair or replace damaged spars etc.
EDIT......I Forgot to state it is an Embraer 195.
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Post by Vinny on Jun 3, 2024 15:50:11 GMT
One of my mates is trained on the Bombardier Dash 8 Q400 and the Embraer 175 & 190.
Bit difficult to tell with the limited details but going by the details around the windows, it looks more like a Dash 8 to me.
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Post by jonksy on Jun 3, 2024 15:55:04 GMT
One of my mates is trained on the Bombardier Dash 8 Q400 and the Embraer 175 & 190. Bit difficult to tell with the limited details but going by the details around the windows, it looks more like a Dash 8 to me. Dash 8's are turbo propped mate....Did he work for Flybe by any chance as they flew both Ebraiers and Bombardiers's? |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 3, 2024 15:58:15 GMT
Good guess. Yes.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jun 4, 2024 7:48:58 GMT
]I think a bad storm can deliver high winds. 100mph is not unprecedented. I know aircraft absolutely avoid flying into thunderstorm clouds Probably because there are regularly to be found large ice rocks in there up to 8 inches in diameter and weighing up to 2 lbs … just going up and down mysteriously for hours in the convection currents! A consistent updraft of 100mph is very unlikely … except in a tornado weather system …. suggesting the ionisation effect I talked about … electrical fields in counter convection rotatory patterns might be generating a zero gravity effect within clouds. ++++++++++++++++++++++++ I just bumped into this video searching how these anti-gravity principles work. For serious researchers interested here … check this key piece out. It describes with top experts - (real experts … not the mickey mouse fakes ruining this thread)- in interesting detail - exactly how the alien anti-gravity reproduction craft works … what the Fluxliner looks like … interior design, propulsion principles … and it coincidentally mentions this counter revolution polarity idea I’ve just stumbled on from my weather observations … loosely confirmed here ironically … which shows my instincts were spot on. It mentions the early stages of the Disclosure Project (2001), … shows a few interesting video clips of UFO’s … includes discussion of possible FLT … and shows a triangular UFO transitioning to either FLT … or wormhole travel. (a unique clip of a staggeringly rare observation). It also illustrates the cover-up and murder of so many top scientists who made important discoveries in this field … murders done by the Black Ops of the Deep State … crimes that should see them arrested, stuck behind bars … and justice prevail. ….and awakens suspicions over what happened to all those West Country scientists who died in mysterious circumstances in the 70’s/80’s/90’s.(see my other thread for details) We need to wrestle back control of our Science … and represent and credit alien invention here … as these EVIL rogue state secret cartels have stolen this technology and plan to use it to the detriment of HUMANITY.+++++++++++++++++++++++ Apologies for stumbling on this documentary 7 years LATE …after it was first posted online … it does short cut and answer many of the arguments that surround this subject. It is clear now why it’s contents were ignored by the MSM … as was the Disclosure Press Conference way back in 2001 …. for the reasons we have already discussed. => It PROVES …The BBC is not an INDEPENDENT OPEN MEDIA ORGANISATION … it is secretly controlled and manipulated by Deep State/Religious covert censorship-obsessed Groups linked most strongly and sadly to Zionist factions. (deduced if you follow the money!) |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 4, 2024 7:59:16 GMT
Zero Point Energy (energy still active at absolute zero) has been known about since experiments in the 1940's, but that doesn't provide an equation for the harnessing of it, the energy output of it, or a method by which to create a working FTL drive / warp drive / interdimemsional drive / anti gravity drive with it.
Again, what your arguments boil down to are wishful thinking and magic.
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