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Post by Red Rackham on May 20, 2024 21:00:14 GMT
This is becoming a tad uncomfortable, there's far too much talk of milking, sounds positively unhygienic. However, I reiterate; 22.6 million people claiming £11 billion a month in out of work benefits is absolutely ridiculous. Indeed, what's your supposed solution? Stop mass immigration which keeps shop floor pay down and rents up. Encourage people not to rely on benefits, which will be difficult because these days under this nasty far right Tory government it's too easy to live on benefits. Please £11 billion a month, don't tell me I'm wrong.
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Post by sheepy on May 20, 2024 21:00:33 GMT
I can see it now, Zany and Rackham handing over their goods and chattels, seeking the net zero life without all those worldly goods weighing them down. Oh yes. It always has to be all or nothing. No one can just pay a bit more tax for a fairer world. Has to be pure greed or live in a cave. Good idea give the corrupt greedy bastards even more when they are already rotten at the very core.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2024 21:00:39 GMT
This is becoming a tad uncomfortable, there's far too much talk of milking, sounds positively unhygienic. However, I reiterate; 22.6 million people claiming £11 billion a month in out of work benefits is absolutely ridiculous. Indeed, what's your supposed solution? Vote in the party that basically supports unlimited immigration and wants to give foreign nationals the vote to keep them in power forever. That should plug the hole.
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Post by Totheleft on May 20, 2024 21:04:16 GMT
This is becoming a tad uncomfortable, there's far too much talk of milking, sounds positively unhygienic. However, I reiterate; 22.6 million people claiming £11 billion a month in out of work benefits is absolutely ridiculous. Indeed, what's your supposed solution? Red you try feeding me that nonecenc I told you to look at your link It including pensions and 38% working house holds. In the figure it's not all unemployed getting the £11 billion a Month.
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Post by zanygame on May 20, 2024 21:04:34 GMT
Wake up Red. Interest payments are made up of two parts. Rate and amount borrowed. Push house prices up to 400k and 5.5% gives you around £2,500 a month. Your mortgage back in the day? 40k? £245 a month. The reason people are struggling with mortgage payments is not because interest rates are high, they are not. It's because the cost of living including rent has increased so much in recent years, and the reason rent has increased so much is because there are too many people in the country. You cant pour a quart into a pint pot. Too many people or not enough houses. Your Tories invited them all in. Your Tories didn't build homes for them. See if you can figure the outcome.
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Post by zanygame on May 20, 2024 21:09:30 GMT
Indeed, what's your supposed solution? Stop mass immigration which keeps shop floor pay down and rents up. Encourage people not to rely on benefits, which will be difficult because these days under this nasty far right Tory government it's too easy to live on benefits. Please £11 billion a month, don't tell me I'm wrong. We agree on stopping mass immigration, why didn't your Tories do that? To bring down rent prices you need to lower house prices. To lower house prices you need to build more. Supply and demand, heard of that?
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Post by witchfinder on May 20, 2024 21:12:57 GMT
Is immigration running at almost record levels ?
Who has been in power for the last 14 years ?
What does the word "Hypocrite" mean ?
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2024 21:15:24 GMT
arrant nonsense - inequality has fallen since the tories came to power Surely. Spending for the poorest has increased, even over the last few years. I'm not sure it's sustainable, because the rich are leaving and more poor people are arriving.
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Post by Pacifico on May 20, 2024 21:19:53 GMT
arrant nonsense - inequality has fallen since the tories came to power Surely. How can anyone be so uninformed? Inequality peaked in 2008.
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Post by Pacifico on May 20, 2024 21:21:50 GMT
Is immigration running at almost record levels ? Who has been in power for the last 14 years ?
What does the word "Hypocrite" mean ? Good question - certainly has not been any conservatives or 'far right' as you call them..
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Post by Pacifico on May 20, 2024 21:25:07 GMT
Surely. Spending for the poorest has increased, even over the last few years. I'm not sure it's sustainable, because the rich are leaving and more poor people are arriving.
It's going to be an interesting next few years. A Labour Government is going to massively increase Public Spending for which it is going to put up taxes to pay for it - result will be that those who pay the taxes leave in ever increasing numbers so to support the increased spending there will be massive borrowing. Welcome to Venezuela without the sunshine.
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Post by Red Rackham on May 20, 2024 21:27:57 GMT
Indeed, what's your supposed solution? Red you try feeding me that nonecenc I told you to look at your link It including pensions and 38% working house holds. In the figure it's not all unemployed getting the £11 billion a Month. No you're wrong. The £11 billion a month benefits bill I quoted does not include pensions, I deliberately deducted pensions... Quote ... In 2023-24, the government is expected to spend £265.5bn on paying pensions and benefits, just over half of which (£134.8bn) goes on benefits to pensioners.
In other words, as I said previously: £131 billion, or £11 billion a month is paid in out of work and other benefits. www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-63129705#:~:text=How%20much%20is%20spent%20on,goes%20on%20benefits%20to%20pensioners.
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Post by Red Rackham on May 20, 2024 21:35:34 GMT
Is immigration running at almost record levels ? Who has been in power for the last 14 years ? What does the word "Hypocrite" mean ? Indeed immigration is far too high. Do you envisage a Labour government reducing it?..
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Post by jonksy on May 20, 2024 21:45:19 GMT
The reason people are struggling with mortgage payments is not because interest rates are high, they are not. It's because the cost of living including rent has increased so much in recent years, and the reason rent has increased so much is because there are too many people in the country. You cant pour a quart into a pint pot. Too many people or not enough houses. Your Tories invited them all in. Your Tories didn't build homes for them. See if you can figure the outcome. The fuckers are univited zany....Our hotel bills for these arseholes has now reached the figure of over 8 million quis per day. Just wait until labour get in that figure will go up in leaps and bounds..You are supposed to be a chippy so if you were you would know how many new houses that have sprung up in the UK over the last 20 yers or so...But you do not have to work in the building trade to see the number of new builds all across the country...
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2024 22:01:14 GMT
Spending for the poorest has increased, even over the last few years. I'm not sure it's sustainable, because the rich are leaving and more poor people are arriving.
It's going to be an interesting next few years. A Labour Government is going to massively increase Public Spending for which it is going to put up taxes to pay for it - result will be that those who pay the taxes leave in ever increasing numbers so to support the increased spending there will be massive borrowing. Welcome to Venezuela without the sunshine. Increased borrowing with a weakening economy will surely reduce the credit rating eventually. A mountain of debt that cannot be repaid.
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